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Final Fantasy VII Remake: Nomura Confirms Combat is Action Based
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depths20XX
Member
We all knew it would be action based. Here's hoping it isn't terrible like XV's.
shaowebb
Member
Fuck. Nomura.
Fuck. Modern FF.
Fuck action based FF.
Hasn't been good since turn based games. Thanks Squenix for shitting in the mouth of the cheering fans who've waited for over a decade for FF7 to be remade. The ones who were around for it are the ones who wanted it back. All we wanted was an HD remake not a complete redo with all the actual gameplay fucking replaced. But hey lets put an FF7 branding on the next Nomura pile and see if folks start to like him then.
Fuck. Modern FF.
Fuck action based FF.
Hasn't been good since turn based games. Thanks Squenix for shitting in the mouth of the cheering fans who've waited for over a decade for FF7 to be remade. The ones who were around for it are the ones who wanted it back. All we wanted was an HD remake not a complete redo with all the actual gameplay fucking replaced. But hey lets put an FF7 branding on the next Nomura pile and see if folks start to like him then.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
The original game is still there. Let off some steam.
Death Penalty
Member
Speak for yourself, I was there for the original and this is exactly what I wanted.
JuanLatino
Member
Why do Guys like you think they speak for & represent the whole fandom?
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
lol It's because to people like him or her there is nothing logical about wanting a different battle system from the original. It's quite literally unacceptable to them.
Seriously.
This argument is so ridiculous... Who decided that turn based RPGs are dead? I would like to have a word with them.
Nothing you said represents me as a fan from the beginning
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
If I wanted the same exact gameplay as the original I'd play the original.
Eh, I don't mind, as long as its not some weird hybrid between action and ATB because these things almost never work.
You either make it a full Action or a full ATB.
Also, lol at people who think FF are "hard" and "strategic" I love FF but lets be real here, outside of optional bosses, FF never really required strategy. If you have common sense you're good to go. VI, VII, IX, and XII were brain-dead experiences to me in terms of combat. I actually enjoyed VIII's system more, though its an unpopular opinion, that system made me think twice before using my magic and how to utilize it.
You either make it a full Action or a full ATB.
Also, lol at people who think FF are "hard" and "strategic" I love FF but lets be real here, outside of optional bosses, FF never really required strategy. If you have common sense you're good to go. VI, VII, IX, and XII were brain-dead experiences to me in terms of combat. I actually enjoyed VIII's system more, though its an unpopular opinion, that system made me think twice before using my magic and how to utilize it.
Don't kill me
Sir Alemeth
Member
Should have made it like FFX's battle.
The NieR Automata team would have rekt this remake in a good way
Cramoss
Member
JetSetRadio
Banned
Full QTE battles please.
zerokoolpsx
Member
It was obvious.
Death Penalty
Member
I think you're spot on here. FF has never been about strategy outside of spinoff titles like FF Tactics and MAYBE superbosses (though I facerolled all of VII's superbosses in particular using one overpowered tactic which I wouldn't call strategy). I don't understand the people clamoring for a return to turn-based taking this stance, because in general Final Fantasy games that have been turn-based are easy as hell and the most tactical choice you'll make is needing to heal or remove a negative status effect.
I could certainly see someone wanting something slower paced where they can take their time. But tactical? Mainline FF prior to XII is just as much a button masher as KH, it's just slowed down.
AkirraKrylon
Member
If anyone watched the gameplay trailer and thought "well it might still be turn based!", they were just in serious denial and fooling themselves.
Gonna need some blood pressure medication from absorbing all the salt in this thread.
Bring on the action combat!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think there's any reason to believe a FF7 remake will tank because they changed the mechanics of the game. If you want to play the old game, it still exists on many, many platforms. Change is good, and I don't think a 1-for-1 remake with better graphics is. The game is dated.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Aww, you think you speak for the fans. How adorable.
inb4 he says he speaks for "true" fans. That'll be hilarious.
afternoon delight
Member
So do you think they'll keep the same control and combat style over the decade of episodes or do you think systems will change between installments?
AkirraKrylon
Member
It's the same exact conversation that took place when vsXIII changed to XV.
"Action combat doez not belong in MUH MAINLINE SERIES! True fans know thattttt!!!1!!1!! Save it for spinoffs like Type 0 and KH! Time to go rage on gamefaqs!"
And people stamped their feet and screamed for 3 years. Guess what? XV still was action combat, and now VII:R is too.
QQ harder folks. It's not gonna change.
roflwaffles
Member
I'm here for the turn-based salt.
Honestly it would be fine either way, and you know you're gonna buy it anyway because its FF7. You're lying to yourself if this is a deal breaker for you.
Honestly it would be fine either way, and you know you're gonna buy it anyway because its FF7. You're lying to yourself if this is a deal breaker for you.
ethomaz
Banned
If I wanted a way change in gameplay genre I'd to play another game.
robertsan21
Member
hmm 12 is stretching it big, its not as good as FF 12 but better than 13, lol yes anything is better than 13.
That being said, I am ok with action based for FF7
afternoon delight
Member
I haven't purchased a mainline FF since 9* and it seems the boycott will continue! You don't know me!
* Tactics Advance was the last time a new FF got me hyperzoned.
BossDarkseid
Member
I dunno, I think the series has had a few good entries since...FF...3?
But also stop treating the fans as a monolithic entity.
BossDarkseid
Member
Why did I have to see this comment...
Now I'm sad about this superior alternate reality where Platinum busted out a full ARPG FF7 and it was the greatest thing since something...
Death Penalty
Member
It does make one wonder why they went with CC2 after establishing ties with Platinum.
BossDarkseid
Member
They probably started talking to CC2 around the same time Platinum got started, since this has been in dev for 2 1/2ish years now? I mean I think Platinum have a rep for quick dev cycles. I always found it kinda curious though that after the Remake was revealed, Nomura said that SE and CC2 have different development ethos and they are in constant communication. Like, communication is good but...surely there must've been a better choice? :/
Oh well
2Smashed4U
Banned
It'll sell, but it won't get received well, I'm almost positive of that. The reason quite a lot of people wanted this was heavily nostalgia based, people who haven't bought a game system in years but are interested in one now just to play the FF7 Remake. And these people don't want a fundamentally different game - an expanded on or improved version of the original yes.
But if this ends up being essentially Kingdom Hearts: Final Fantasy VII edition, then FF7R Ep. 1 is going to be the best selling game in the series, and by a significant margin.
I don't know. You didn't know what tank controls were.
Taliban Stan
Member
Like Heavy Rain and Beyond? I'd actually like that,
DiipuSurotu
Banned
It is another game.
Ophiuchus
Member
I love turn based system and I also like action based combat.I don't want this remake to be old game with new graphics.I also don't want them to ruin my beloved game with copying every aspect of former one.
They have to do one thing(as a whole I mean) though.They must keep original story,ambiance and characters.
They have to do one thing(as a whole I mean) though.They must keep original story,ambiance and characters.
The engine is UE4 which is the same one KH3 is being made with and Cyberconnect2 is making the bulk of it.
I'm really curious what about FFXV combat people think is the best in the world. We can all name about 4-5 major issues with it.
While we knew it was going to be action based i'm very curious to see how the customization of the materia system is suppose to work in an action game. The magic system in FFXV was the worst thing ever created and hopefully they don't go anywhere near that direction.
While we knew it was going to be action based i'm very curious to see how the customization of the materia system is suppose to work in an action game. The magic system in FFXV was the worst thing ever created and hopefully they don't go anywhere near that direction.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I thought we saw this when that gameplay trailer dropped. It's disappointing, but not surprising.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Also why are people equating wanting turned-based meaning we want the exact same game with just modern graphics? There's an infinite amount of things that can be changed other than changing the style of battles.
One of my least favorite Final Fantasys and there are plenty of stuff I would change, but the battle system being turn-based isn't one. It's been a long, long time since I played VII, but I remember disliking Chocobo breeding and racing and some materia. I could tell you specifically, but that would require me to play it again.
One of my least favorite Final Fantasys and there are plenty of stuff I would change, but the battle system being turn-based isn't one. It's been a long, long time since I played VII, but I remember disliking Chocobo breeding and racing and some materia. I could tell you specifically, but that would require me to play it again.
This. I'm excited to see how it all turns out.
Its pretty much a new mainline FF game.
ethomaz
Banned
It is FFVII not FFXVI.
I'm not saying that's not fine. On the contrary, I'm saying I understand that this remake isn't for everybody. I feel like it is for me though, because it appeals to me in just the right ways so I'm happy about it, although I am sympathetic to fans who aren't.
SaniOYOYOY
Member
well then you can play that of course, and i probably wont. just the reverse of this situation
totally! action combat is one thing, but if they remove materia then its ff7 no more. then we can riot all we want
Really surprised at the reaction to this given that it's been known for over a year.
I'm not in the "turn-based is old" camp, but I'm not mad about it either. I just hope it's good. My main worry is how they're going to maintain the versatility of the materia system. If they pull that off with action combat we're on to a winner.
I'm not in the "turn-based is old" camp, but I'm not mad about it either. I just hope it's good. My main worry is how they're going to maintain the versatility of the materia system. If they pull that off with action combat we're on to a winner.
Now now, ya never know. Let's give it 10 years and find out.
LordOcidax
Member
It's a Square game with the FF7 characters, they are going to change the OG story a "bit". So... Is another game.