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RUMOR: Leaked art work suggest COD 2017 will be called Call of Duty: WWII
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Banned
Same, haven't bought one since the original Black Ops.
somecrazymember
Banned
Is this pretty much confirmed? Looks like photoshopping to me but can't confirm. I guess if noone recognizes these artworks, it can't be fake
CuNi
Member
TBH, if this is not stuffed with weird microtransaction, ridiculous kill streaks, op weapons and linear level designs, then this will be the first CoD game I will get after MW2!
if Gameplay delivers, I am so going to get this! I love this setting! BF took it a bit too far with WW1 and I srsly hope if this hits the market, then maybe some Indie or AAA Studios will do games like MoH, Brothers in Arms etc.
tl;dr
hyped if done correctly
if Gameplay delivers, I am so going to get this! I love this setting! BF took it a bit too far with WW1 and I srsly hope if this hits the market, then maybe some Indie or AAA Studios will do games like MoH, Brothers in Arms etc.
tl;dr
hyped if done correctly
Stilton Disco
Member
WW2 covered most of the planet and had the only large scale combination of old school imperial warfare and modern weaponry and tactics. If it's boring to you, you've only been playing games set in the same times period and geographical area.
Besides which, there's almost no wars in the last century that had as clear cut 'bad guys' as the Nazis, and where they lost.
The closest thing would probably be the USSR fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan, in that both sides would be pretty awful, but you'd either play as the losing side or the flipping Taliban, which I can't see flying, or the Falklands War, which is far too recent, and Argentina would spit their dummy out over.
Really, I think the only reason Battlefield 1 got away with it was because WW1 is all but out or living memory, and the alt right have already started trying to glorify it in recent years. Anything more recent just risks too many controversies.
Filthy Casual
Member
Not sure I believe it but if it's true I'm all over this, WaW is my favourite Call of Duty. Will still be skeptical about them ruining the game with supply drops and what not though. What about specialists, can't have any superpowers in this CoD surely.
Really hope we see other aspects of WW2 than Normandy and Stalingrad.
MW3 for me. Hated pretty much all of it but wanted to close out the trilogy.
MW3 for me. Hated pretty much all of it but wanted to close out the trilogy.
MilkyJoe
Member
Good post, and your point on war with clear bad guys, that is what the namesake is all about. It was a time when every man's duty to do what he could to defeat this tyranny. The franchise name does not fit any of the post WW2 games.
Lord of Castamere
Member
This may be the most difficult poll I've ever voted on.
WW2 is most logical choice for many war-themed games.
And also, majority of the world does not care what happened in Korea and Vietnam.
I didn't like Infinite Warfare that much.
Apart from the setting (solar system warfare and drama is pretty cool, see The Expanse), the characters except Ethan were bland and had very wild and inconsistent evolution arcs, the SDF were extremely generic "WE HATE EARTH CAUSE REASONS!"-villains and were so evil for no reason it was just hysterical. John Space Snow was a poor antagonist with little pay-off and no reason to like him as a villain. He was just "Grrr, I hate Earth and may have some mental instabilities, look, I shoot one of my own, that's how evil I am. Why? CAUSE I AM EVIL AND HATE EARTH!" No background, no foundation, the SDF just eat Earth babies for the sheer satisfaction somehow.
Not to mention that the flight missions were boring with either choosing to do the obvious Ace Combat: Assault Horizon-lock-on-LookHowCinematicShitJustGot!-rail-flight-rip-off or fly around chaotically in a very small and clustered environment potentially bumping into everything. The carrier hub felt small with like maybe 3-4 rooms in total that you can see.
Overall, I just thought Advanced Warfare actually did one of the first great campaigns since MW1. Irons was a good villain with a (while slightly obvious) good character development that made you see his perspective on what was going on. The game didn't glorify violence for the sake of it like Treyarch games usually do with World at War or Black Ops where they SERIOUSLY have some fucking fetisch for torture and murder, the psychotic level that is just uncomfortable and pointless, not even humerous. Good varied mission structure and also, in the end, a story that actually questions war instead of putting it on a pedestal and go "LOOK HOW FUCKING AWESOME IT IS!!! YEAH BRO!"
Maybe in some areas but definitely not as whole.AW's opening mission Induction is still the best looking CoD mission in terms of both graphics and animation.Especially the animations on that opening sequence is one of the best examples in gaming industry.I played that mission over and over again just because how impressive it looks.AW is the only game it felt like the engine is new,with IW even though it looks great it gives Ghosts vibes in every direction.(technically)
The concept arts already shows men storming a beach covered in tank traps. You know it's going to hit the same tired beats of Normandy, Operation Market Garden, generic bombed out European city, generic bombed out European city with tanks, Stalingrad, maybe an Africa level or turret-shooter on a bomber/ship section.
I find the equipment used in WW2 intrinsically boring. Let's not pretend that most WW2 FPSs feeling the same is down to me not playing the "right" games.
Also, why do you need a clear-cut bad guy? Or a war that ended in total defeat? Are you unaware of all the games set in wars post-WW2?
That explains why Advanced Warfare, a game set in a completely non-existent war did so well....
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Any excitement for this is soured by their horrible microtransaction system for COD. Can't wait to see WWII soldiers running around with pirate outfits and laser rifles.
Activision lost any good will it had left when it added microtransactions to COD4 Remastered.
Activision lost any good will it had left when it added microtransactions to COD4 Remastered.
CosmicRomancer
Member
I'm ok with this; curious to see what they do with it.
I feel like a campaign in this setting -- forgoing the ridiculous sci-fi elements from future settings -- will benefit as a result. For me, it'll be more tangible and put more focus on the characters.
Although on the flip side, the future settings had more freedom to experiment and be more diverse, socially speaking. But the games released didn't really fully take advantage of it did it? I felt like the transition from modern-day to the future was just mostly technological. There was too much focus on the fancy new toys when there were other interesting areas to explore and experiment with.
I feel like a campaign in this setting -- forgoing the ridiculous sci-fi elements from future settings -- will benefit as a result. For me, it'll be more tangible and put more focus on the characters.
Although on the flip side, the future settings had more freedom to experiment and be more diverse, socially speaking. But the games released didn't really fully take advantage of it did it? I felt like the transition from modern-day to the future was just mostly technological. There was too much focus on the fancy new toys when there were other interesting areas to explore and experiment with.
Wait a second, WWII didn't have a Pirate Laser Armada? I think Grandpa's going senile.
The_Endgamer
Member
I'd be keen for it but the recent spate of 'pay to win' extras in recent instalments don't get me hyped for the game.
Potentially yes. If they ruled out purchasable gameplay affecting powerups and such. I'd be all in. Until then, no.
Potentially yes. If they ruled out purchasable gameplay affecting powerups and such. I'd be all in. Until then, no.
Daffy Duck
Member
Pretty much my feelings on this too.
You just know some January 2018 it will be a different game to the launch game and there will be stupid outfits and swords like katanas etc
And this too.
CoD is now just a front for the slot machine, you play games for a once in a while shot at the slot machine.
Fancy Clown
Member
Very inspired title
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I don't think they'd do this. Maybe microtransactions of some form, but if they make WWII silly with rainbow colored camo unlocks and laser sights I think they're going to dig their own grave.
Somebody there has to be smart enough to know that stuff shouldn't be in a WWII game.
Daffy Duck
Member
All they see is 💰 💰 💰 they don't care what shouldn't or should be there.
But the COD audience loves that shit
Emperor Bohe
Member
If the mp is like World at War them I am so Down
Razgriz-Specter
Member
How they going to do loot drops and character customization in WW2?
You know its coming.
You know its coming.
Reckless Onion
Member
First leaked gameplay
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So do most other audiences, but there's a time and place for it.
Daffy Duck
Member
First leaked gameplay
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yuup same here.
First leaked gameplay
I wouldn't be surprissed if they'll include some weird camos/uniforms and other shit..
There should be Modern Warfare 2 Remastered for us, but of course that will also be fucked with by adding guns and boxes.
For it to be a reboot of sorts or just "taking it back" they would need to fix a few things to peak my interest again:
-Remove infinite sprinting
-No specialist ability
-No ridiculous kill streaks
-No microtransactions (yeah right)
-New engine
-Limit 3 lane maps and have a good mix of small/medium/large instead of the all small and medium maps of recent games
-Remove infinite sprinting
-No specialist ability
-No ridiculous kill streaks
-No microtransactions (yeah right)
-New engine
-Limit 3 lane maps and have a good mix of small/medium/large instead of the all small and medium maps of recent games
Reckless Onion
Member
isnt the next remaster supposed to be waw? or are we just skipping that one? or waiting for treyarch's entry next year?
Yes, a game that has possibly been in development for nearly 3 years is a reactionary move based on the money BF1 has made in the past 6 months.
Even if done right, there is about a .01% chance that this game isn't riddled with micro transactions and silly OP drops. They just can't go backwards on that, it makes no sense to do so. Unless they see MT fail in a ton of other big games, they'll be a part of CoD forever.
I want to be wrong but year after year I've been scorched
I want to be wrong but year after year I've been scorched
Not when there is money to be made
Yep. Activision is making too much money from microtransactions to stop now. Youtubers give them free marketing by posting supply drop/crate openings and they can constantly promote the MP by having double xp on weekend, double weapon xp the next, and then double cod points on another weekend. I want to be excited for Call of Duty again but I've been burned too many times.
SDCowboy
Member
Well COD is a multiplayer game first and foremost, so if the MP sucks, the game isn't going to be well regarded.
Stilton Disco
Member
I'm aware of games featuring other real life modern conflicts, I just personally find them distasteful and don't enjoy the right wing, American centric, jingoistic nature of their narratives.
The only game along those lines I've enjoyed since 6th gen was Spec Ops: The Line infact.
And we're in a very different time to when even Modern Warfare came out. The entrenchment of political devises, ever more self segregating obsession with race amongst the left, rise of pure, open bigotry with the alt-right and proliferation of outrage culture for the slightest perceived offence have made anything with a perceived political message tricky to handle, and you don't get much more political than real life wars.
Infact I'd say the shift to Sci Fi settings is driven in part due to this, since it avoids so many headaches found in real life controversy being applied in media. Meanwhile, BF1 avoids this by deliberately going for a 'hyper real' approach that took the overall themes of WW1 but applied it to unrealistic gameplay, politics free plot and a more inclusive, diverse variety of playable characters.
CrunchyFrog
Member
I wonder if you could make a guerilla warfare Revolutionary War shooter work with a focus on the Swamp Fox. Definitely couldn't do one straight up with objectively stupid volley lines and the like but I'd like to see them try colonial America and war on the homefront settings.
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Please get this through your heads, people. This wasn't an idea Sledgehammer came up with at BF1 launch.
More_Badass
Member
Many WW2 shooters had missions on other fronts and as other allies. COD 1 and 2 had British and Soviet campaigns, COD 3 has British, French, Canadian, and Polish