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PS4 Pro Won't Support 4k BluRay
- Thread starter blastprocessor
- Start date
Oh dear..
pretty done
Member
Nah, they just don't have a 4K TV.
When I didn't have one I thought it was irrelevant too. Now that I have one I can't believe Sony would be so inept.
beau_beaumont
Member
So did I, and boy was it a pain to set up. I had to restore my tv to factory defaults to get the Xbox to even display in 4k. It's been gathering dust until we get some more blu rays.
Planet Earth II just came out today... pretty much why I bought a Xbox One S lol.
But this media player with update for 4K playback isn't the same as XB1S's Blu-ray app which allows UHD blu-ray movie discs to be played at 4K, right?
Holy crap. I don't own a 4K tv yet, nor a 4Kbluray player, but I feel like I should be buying this, lol...
beau_beaumont
Member
Nice. I'll probably pick that up next. I can only watch John Wick so many times haha
SolidusDave
Member
Yup, had to do the same.
But watching the Planet Earth II UHD discs makes me very happy!
Both for the content and to FINALLY have some something that really max out my 4K HDR TV. Feels good, man.
Now I just need to play a game on that damn thing so that the purchase (instead of a standalone UHD player) is justified lol
Narpas Sword0
Member
Since the time I came in this topic and got screamed at about no one caring about this except on message boards, I know half a dozen casual gamers who bought an XBox One S instead of this.
I continue to have two 4K TVs with only one UHD player, which sucks.
I continue to have two 4K TVs with only one UHD player, which sucks.
I second this.
The Artisan
Member
this is a bit of an overreaction man don't you think?
pixelation
Member
Is the laser on the PS4 not capable of reading them or could this be potentially be added via software upgrade?
dcx4610
Member
Laser. Sony cheaped out. It would have cost them an extra $8-14 estimated to include the needed hardware. Sony is on its last legs though and needs as much profit as possible. This is the new conservative Sony and not the Krazy Ken days.
pixelation
Member
Well that sucks, i don't share that problem because i don't have a 4K set. But even if i did the selection available (4K discs) is very limited ATM.
I spent the past week watching the UHD Blu-ray version of Planet Earth II on an LG B6 OLED TV, connected to an Xbox One S. You won't be disappointed, And, yes, baffling that Sony also didn't bite on this opportunity.
True but it is far better than any other 4K option. If only Disney would get its shit together and offer Rogue One and Force Awakens in 4K with HDR.
Just wait till this year as 4K tv sales are expect to almost quadruple last years. Black friday and yet your Sony 4K tv, with a Sony Pictures, Sony developed 4K UHD disc, cannot be played on your Sony 4K console.
Missed opportunity. And those downplaying it know it too, but would rather call rest of us shills, or pretend the near useless 4K Netflix and Amazon content is any way comparable to Mad Max UHD, etc. Cannot wait to buy Planet Earth II.
GreenMonkey
Member
Just got my 65E6 set up over the weekend. Watched Pacific Rim in UHD (very nice but with the soap opera effect aka TruMotion).
Planet Earth II showed up today, hope to enjoy that as much as we did the first one on HD-DVD.
4K video playback and UHD BD support aren't quite the same thing. But don't feel bad; you're closer to the mark than those who rushed into the HDR firmware update announcement thread to proclaim "Rigby was right!", which also includes the OP, who ninja-edited his post after realising his mistake.
I have a 4K TV & I'm downplaying the exclusion of a UHD drive.
Why? because the Disc isn't a big deal in this day & age & UHD Blu-rays are basically Blu-ray discs using better encoding & as long as PS4 Pro & other media boxes can play new formats UHD Blu-rays will not be missed,
No UHD drive might bother some but not me because I love setting up media severs & it's getting easier for people to manage their own media servers , also you have these cheap Android TV boxes that can also double as NAS & DLNA boxes with large HDD that can send 4K media to your 4K TV & other devices. you can even hook the HDD right up to your PS4 & other devices.
I really don't think UHD Blu-ray with 100GB was worth starting a new format for I think it's a stop gap format that will be mostly overlooked & they will try to replace it with another format in a few years but that format will probably bomb pretty bad.
Can we stop spreading this nonsense like it's fact?
Just because the drive in the Xbone S cost something, does not mean Sony would have used the same drive...And we all know the S, while cheap, is not EXACTLY the best player on the market. The fact of the matter is, there were many factors at play...Only one of them being price
SolidusDave
Member
Dude, you don't have to suffer through TruMotion. Just turn it off! Even if your TV doesn't support stutter-free playback of 24fps, the microstutter from the conversion to 25/30 fps by the uhd player should still be more pleasent.
lol, me too. Just finished episode 1 on my LG B6 OLED and I'm blown away.
potatohead
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The absence of 4K UHD on Pro is lamentable but from a strategy standpoint it made a lot of sense for them and it really hasn't hurt them broadly.
Personally I would've liked it as I also bought Planet Earth 2 in 4K and I'd like to watch it like that, but it is what it is.
It affects me as a user, but I can see why strategically they didn't put it in.
Basically I'm going to wait for either Scorpio or PS5 for my UHD player, most likely PS5 unless Scorpio gives me an indication Xbox will return as more than a third party machine. Or if a $100 UHD player comes out from Sony or Samsung I'll buy that.
Personally I would've liked it as I also bought Planet Earth 2 in 4K and I'd like to watch it like that, but it is what it is.
It affects me as a user, but I can see why strategically they didn't put it in.
Basically I'm going to wait for either Scorpio or PS5 for my UHD player, most likely PS5 unless Scorpio gives me an indication Xbox will return as more than a third party machine. Or if a $100 UHD player comes out from Sony or Samsung I'll buy that.
The more likely reason that Sony didn't include the capability to play 4K Blu-rays on the Pro is because the PS4 sells well enough for just gaming alone. They would rather that consumers buy one of their more expensive dedicated 4K Blu-ray players instead.
I was in best buy the other day and say how abysmal the 4k selection was. I think streaming is just to big Now physical movies are dying.
I need to pick Planet Earth II up soon. I just got Fantastic Beasts and on the B6 it looks pretty damn great.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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The power for games and the boost mode feature for games is enough for me. I truly am sorry they didn't add in a 4K Blu Ray player for televison for the rest of you.
SolidusDave
Member
Yes. Because it likely would have been even cheaper than that to get a UHD drive...
Or at the very least they would still make far more profit than MS does with the XB1S per unit.
But it would have meant to also put that drive into the Slim due to their production pipe line.
And that not-best-player in the world argument is irrelevant if we just talk about image quality and not features for standalone players.
The guy in the PE2 review above used a XB1S as well.
The Artisan
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i think i read rumors somewhere of a new Ps4 slim. maybe it is a super slim or a Ps4 pro slim. if it is the latter what if there is 4K blu ray included? it'd be more like a pro premium.
UpUpDownDown
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No. It's cause UHD was dead before it even started, even Sony had no faith in the product.
Proof is this thread.
Physical formats are dead guys. Nobody is going back after all the advancements of digital.
platina
Member
Yes not the same since I can see people pirating 4k movies and watching them on the pro now. Still I appreciate the 4k media support to watch downloaded YouTube 4k vids
Lol I wonder how many One S systems​ were sold today due to Planet Earth II, wouldn't be surprised if Xbone is the console leader for March or April.
I literally was debating with myself all day if I should buy one. Deciding to just get the regular Blu Ray as I knew it would just gather dust for the majority of the time
I literally was debating with myself all day if I should buy one. Deciding to just get the regular Blu Ray as I knew it would just gather dust for the majority of the time
There is no limit to the amount of John Wick one can watch
SolidusDave
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What? The only proof in this thread is that people very much care about UHD.
People not wanting to get the best out of their (future) thousand+ $ 4K TV is another story.
No one thinks UHD will be a thing for the mass market any time soon. Even Blu-ray isn't really but there will always be an enthusiast market. And that market adopts UHD faster than Blu-ray was back then.
When streaming picks up even more, UHD will be the only relevant disc format because people who now still buy DVDs won't buy movies at all any more while people who care about quality will still have to buy discs - but of course only UHD.
UpUpDownDown
Member
I mean the thread title itself. Sony decided to skip it.
What more proof do you need? If it seemed/was profitable you bet your ass they'd include it.
Fixed.
therealbigrich
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For some reason I don't feel like this thread would of lasted this long if Physical format was "Dead". Its really to early to tell because 4k movies still cost a lot more than DVD and digital . NO I don't think it will actually compete with digital but I think it may do better that "dead" in peoples minds
UpUpDownDown
Member
Oh really?
You think interest of physical formats are driving this thread? Lol
It's a goddam graveyard in here.
beau_beaumont
Member
True. However, the human mind can only withstand so much gun fu before it is permanently blown.
Samurai G0SU
Member
You just end up feeling sorry for some folk after reading this thread. Makes me wanna bake them some cornbread.
gotta get planet earth 2 now. Thnx guys
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
Same. It's not quite as mind-blowing as I was expecting, though.
therealbigrich
Member
Lol its a 6 month old thread about something that's really a non issue and yet people are still talking about it shows me personally something
Poimandres
Member
A thread of GAF is not a good measure of... anything, really.
Sony no doubt conducted their own research, and made a decision that UHD Blu-Ray playback wasn't worth including. I can't really blame them because all signs indicate that physical media uptake is getting more and more niche. It does annoy me on a personal level, because holy christ do I ever want to watch that Planet Earth 2 UHD Blu-Ray!
If they want to make a smaller and cheaper revision, I doubt it.
My bet is it will be in PS5.