I don't think I'll ever understand how a swastika genuinely offends someone when used in historical context. That was their logo/insignia. How is that offensive?
This is a call of duty campagin. Just like every Hollywood movie about WWII it will be woefully inaccurate in general.
A few stamps don't even register (and the iconography in these stamps was used during that time as well):
I mean, you don't really expect COD WWII to be "historically accurate down to every detail" do you?
Of course it's obscene, these people murdered and commited genocide all over europe and not just on the jews. That's only 70 years ago not 500.
We are not talking about a documentary here, it's an action game. If they leave it out (and i doubt they will), it won't be missed.
When the developers spend 2 1/2 years researching WWII and are literally, constantly saying it will be "historically accurate", "authentic", "personal" and "visceral", I have to hope for total accuracy.
You must be trolling at this point.When the developers spend 2 1/2 years researching WWII and are literally, constantly saying it will be "historically accurate", "authentic", "personal" and "visceral", I have to hope for total accuracy.
You're comparing a logo to actions of people. The logo is not obscene. It is the logo they used.
And no it's not a documentary, but it is a WW2 game that will likely have a large Nazi presence.
When the developers spend 2 1/2 years researching WWII and are literally, constantly saying it will be "historically accurate", "authentic", "personal" and "visceral", I have to hope for total accuracy.
They will have to do this for the German version, but they might want to have the same version for all of Europe, so who knows if German censorship might be present in other versions as well.
When the developers spend 2 1/2 years researching WWII and are literally, constantly saying it will be "historically accurate", "authentic", "personal" and "visceral", I have to hope for total accuracy.
nazi zombies aren't historically accurate either
It's a symbol. Sensitivity about it might be different in the US but i'd like you to argue around here that the swastika is not "obscene"/offensive.
2017. If you don't like history, just change it.
We gotta protect Feeeeeelings
still nazis. still germany. still world war 2. not showing a swastika really isn't changing the history of the event or undoing any of the nazi crimes
It's start to earasing history if true. This generation we say it's only the symbols of the nazis that we've take away and pretty soon the nazi's are replaced with zombies.
Well Black ops 3 is getting remastered zombie maps in 2 days and it doesn't have swastikas either. Original zombie maps did.Maybe wait until the game is out?
It's a start to earasing history if true. This generation we say it's only the symbols of the nazis that we've take away and pretty soon the nazi's are replaced with zombies.
Honestly Germany needs to remove that law it makes no sense at all does Russia ban the Soviet logo from media/games etc with the anchor? on wich Stalin killed millions of people.
No matter how hard you try you can't hide the past how evil or shamefull it is/was people will always find the logo's truth etc.
Maybe they should just finally add video games to the list of artforms so that it is permitted to use it like in movies etc.
It's start to earasing history if true. This generation we say it's only the symbols of the nazis that we've take away and pretty soon the nazi's are replaced with zombies.
It's a start to earasing history if true. This generation we say it's only the symbols of the nazis that we've take away and pretty soon the nazi's are replaced with zombies.
This would have happened 10 years ago if publishers actually cared and spoke to the government about it.Maybe they should just finally add video games to the list of artforms so that it is permitted to use it like in movies etc.
Company of Heroes 2 was banned in Russia because they realistically portrayed the Soviet army being just as, if not more brutal than the Wehrmacht. Guess they weren't big fans of Order 227 as a mechanic rather than portraying "The Great Patriotic War" as a bunch of selfless liberators and heroes.Honestly Germany needs to remove that law it makes no sense at all does Russia ban the Soviet logo from media/games etc with the anchor? on wich Stalin killed millions of people.
No matter how hard you try you can't hide the past how evil or shamefull it is/was people will always find the logo's truth etc.
Maybe they should just finally add video games to the list of artforms so that it is permitted to use it like in movies etc.
Lol man its a Video Game...
"Political correctness" is literally when someone gets extremely angry when other people don't use the "correct" word or symbol for something.
How is that humorous?Lmao....
And if you want "total realism", maybe there can be a level where you play as the Einsatzgruppen, where you can execute POWs and civilians. Or a mission where you play as Americans first coming across the mountains of bodies from recently abandoned death camps? How about one where you play as the Soviets during the invasion of Berlin, where you watch women getting raped and families committing suicide rather than facing their new occupiers?
Certainly would seem in line with the series that gave the world No Russian.
I give you this as soon as you link me a source on how one US soldier killed 500 people like you do in COD.
If the game were historically accurate you wouldn't play it.
anti glorification of nazi stuff is actually p effective
also the iron cross is historically accurate
anti glorification of nazi stuff is actually p effective
also the iron cross is historically accurate
I don't know where "around here" is, but as I mentioned, I'm referring to regions outside of Germany. I fully get being offended by the group a logo may represent, but to be offended by the actual logo itself, I don't get.
And again, if one is that offended by anything portraying Nazis, why even play the game? Shouldn't seeing Nazis be far more offensive that a logo? How does a logo offend more than seeing actual Nazis (well digital versions of them) themselves?
I look forward to a realistic call of duty which consists of solely hide in the snow and sniping russians for 8 hours.The method of play and how you go about it - in you're part of a group, but doing most of the killing would be considered "unrealistic" - but if you look at someone like Finnish sniper Simo Häyhä who did in fact have over 500 confirmed kills by himself - is that not historically accurate?
Acussing Germany of trying to hide the past is a pretty bold accusation to make. :c
Way too far sir, way too far.
I'm sorry, were you offended by my wanting historical accuracy?
So you're taking the most overused meaningless marketing-buzzwords at face value?
You must be trolling at this point.
Is this your first call of duty marketing cycle?
Are you sure you're a history buff
"here" is Switzerland.
I don't have a problem with the swastika being in the game - if it is. However the swastika is an offensive symbol. I'm honestly surprised there's even disagreement about that.
And i don't understand the insistence on calling it a logo. It's a flag. A symbol.
It would be an interesting experience instead of this glorified war COD gives you.I personally wouldn't mind it, it would push boundaries for sure.