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Sonic Mania - Special Stages, Bonus Stages, & Time Attack Shown Off

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Qasiel

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For a sequel I would like them to use the Sonic 3 style of sprites this looks good:

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I'm with you. S3&K sprites all the way.
 

J@hranimo

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For a sequel I would like them to use the Sonic 3 style of sprites this looks good:

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Same! I hope they go this route with Mania 2 or whatever the next one will be.


Under a week to go, and Green Hill is the only stage where we've seen an entire play through. It and Chemical Plant are the only stages where we've extensively seen both acts.

Studiopolis was the first stage we saw and we've only seen a few brief seconds of Act 2 in the Special Stages trailer, and some likely outdated footage in the announcement. We've seen nothing of Mirage Saloon Act 1.

We know we're getting a CD-style intro cinematic (and maybe ending too) and we've not seen any of it.

I really hope this method of marketing the game works out in the long run. I'm really excited about how many surprises are waiting for us.

I'm staying the fuck off Youtube until I've beaten it though, I don't feel like seeing any "ALL BOSSES AND ENDING" thumbnails that ruin all the boss fights again.

We haven't seen much new stuff really. Most of the zones they've showed off were from older games, even with the Act 2 of levels being a lot more original in design. I think we'll be in for some surprises :)

Actually we should be getting one more song from the YouTube this week too.
 
Because the Sonic 2 sprite looks better and more expressive

Never really liked the S3 sprite, the eyes are too small

What an arbitrary reason not to like a sprite design...

I think he Sonic 3 sprites are without a doubt more expressive and better looking
 

MrBadger

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What an arbitrary reason not to like a sprite design...

I think he Sonic 3 sprites are without a doubt more expressive and better looking

I wouldn't be the first Sonic fan to criticise his eyes to be fair!

There are a lot of reasons I don't like it, to do with the way it's shaded and proportioned, but the eyes are the one thing that make it look especially unexpressive compared to 2's sprite
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Count me among those who felt that Sonic 3's sprite looked lifeless in comparison to the games that came before it.

IMO, Mania's main character sprites evoke Chaotix more than anything else, at least when it comes to color and detail.
 

Diablos

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RRockman

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Honestly, they should've made separate sub-series for Modern and Classic after the success of Generations.

Both have merit, let them play to their strengths as opposed to crowbarring them together again. Mania has the right idea. It's a shame we don't have a focused Modern Sonic title to accompany it.

Even if they do separate sub-series after this, equating character designs and playstyles is a massive problem. They shouldn't be afraid to do a Classic-styled game with a Modern aesthetic and vice-versa. Sonic 4's issue wasn't the character designs for instance.

I dunno. It just seems to encourage unnecessary fractures.

You are right right right! I still don't know why they haven't done this. That way complainers will ALWAYS have something kinda like 2d 3d mario fans.
 

PMS341

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Really, really pumped for this. Shame the Collector's Edition sold out, but I'm running out of room for cool stuff. Day One on Switch, though.
 
Yeah they pretty much indicated clear as day that if the game sells extremely well, which it's looking like it will, then they'll greenlight similar projects i.e. Sonic Mania 2.

I know some have joked around about this, but does anyone think that Sega would greenlight these teams to make Sonic 4 and just pretend that Sonic 4: Episode 1&2 don't exist? It seems that speculation jumped into full drive when the elevator floors were shown in the release date trailer and there was no fourth floor. It seems like Sega would have to sign off on them seemingly "deleting" 4 from the current timeline.
 

Guess Who

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I can't see how the sprites of 3 are better than the ones used in mania, specially when you enlarge the image

While I basically agree with your premise, that’s the wrong Sonic 3 sprite. iirc that one is only used during a spinning animation (like the Sky Sanctuary platforms) or something like that, it’s not the normal standing sprite. The eyes are slightly different (and better on the right one).
 

MrBadger

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I think Sonic's sprite in 3&K looks more like a figurine than a living creature. I've always liked the 1&2 sprites better.

I was gonna say, it kind of looks like it was based on a 3D model or something. But I might just be saying that because the title screen clearly is

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I Wanna Be The Guy

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I can't see how the sprites of 3 are better than the ones used in mania, specially when you enlarge the image
Not only is the Sonic 3 sprite better than Mania, but Sonic 2 is as well. Still don't like the Mania shade of blue. Way too light. It's not a huge deal, but it's a little thing I don't like.
 
Sonic Rivals (a game that came out a few days after Sonic 06 and was directed / written by Iizuka, fun fact) retconned Silver's backstory by saying he's still from a bad future, and only him.

Rivals 2 continues on with that and makes Ifrit and Rush's Eggman Nega (don't ask) the cause of Silver's time being in ruin, with Sonic and crew rightfully fixing that

Colors DS ends it with the psychic hedgehog showing up for a zone and talking about how nice his time has become

So there's at least an understandable reason why Silver's still showing up, even at the cost of another character getting the whole confusion

So he's even more Future Trunks than I thought.

Can't wait for the Sonic Black arc.
 

TedMilk

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Nevermind the Sonic sprite, I'm more upset at the terrible Knuckles sprites which look like updated Chaotix sprites. Knuckles' sprites in S3&K were perfect, this is a major step down.
 

Ferr986

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Nevermind the Sonic sprite, I'm more upset at the terrible Knuckles sprites which look like updated Chaotix sprites. Knuckles' sprites in S3&K were perfect, this is a major step down.

Does it? it feels like it looks closer than 3&K than Chaotix (and Chaotix sprite > 3&K one)
 

TedMilk

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Knuckles' gait is unnatural, his spines look like hair and he's an awfully shaded colour of pink. He doesn't lean forward when walking. Doesn't look anything like S3&K sprite to me.

I mean, I'm sure the game will be ace, but while we're on the subject of sprites and all...
 
Honestly, they should've made separate sub-series for Modern and Classic after the success of Generations.

Both have merit, let them play to their strengths as opposed to crowbarring them together again. Mania has the right idea. It's a shame we don't have a focused Modern Sonic title to accompany it.
The Sonic "teams" strike me as multiple groups that lack much meaningful communication. You can tell that, say, Mario Galaxy and NSMBWii are trying to accomplish 2 very different things. However, Sonic Generations and Sonic 4 released so close back to back and it just didn't make sense at the time; the same feeling is had when comparing Mania to Forces. Whose gonna wanna play as Classic Sonic in Forces when he controls like shit compared to Mania?

Just strikes me as an utter lack of communication, is all.
 
The Sonic "teams" strike me as multiple groups that lack much meaningful communication. You can tell that, say, Mario Galaxy and NSMBWii are trying to accomplish 2 very different things. However, Sonic Generations and Sonic 4 released so close back to back and it just didn't make sense at the time; the same feeling is had when comparing Mania to Forces. Whose gonna wanna play as Classic Sonic in Forces when he controls like shit compared to Mania?

Just strikes me as an utter lack of communication, is all.

I get the feeling that classic Sonic in Forces was already decided on before Mania was approved for development.
 
Count me among those who felt that Sonic 3's sprite looked lifeless in comparison to the games that came before it.

IMO, Mania's main character sprites evoke Chaotix more than anything else, at least when it comes to color and detail.
I always thought the Sonic 2 design and animation were the best followed by CD. I love Sonic 3 but didn't like how they changed the look of Sonic in-game, as well as the less vibrant colors used for the levels. Sonic 2 sprites and level coloring all the way.
 

J@hranimo

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I actually really like the shading on Sonic's Mania sprite. The old sprites from 1 and 2 look really flat compared to it.

Yeah the shading of all the characters in Mania are really great. I also agree with that previous poster that Tails has the best look and animations in this game :)
 

muteki

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In a just world, the next evolution in aesthetics for classic Sonic would be sprite work on the level of the old Win95 Sonic Screensaver.

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I'd love to see Sonic and other 2D games looking like this but I think giving the environments a similar treatment would be too laborious.
 
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