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Mr Plinkett reviews Ghostbusters (2016)

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
The sad thing is you could have very easily made a scene full of real jokes out of her eating chips without having to degrade to the lowest common denominator "remember that" reference joke.

1) make a joke about her "finding something" and it's a bag of chips

2) make a joke about them being quiet and she's crunchy the chips loudly

2.5) make a joke where she thinks they're mad at her because she didn't offer to share

3) make a joke where she suggests maybe the ghost is hungry and offers a chip

4) make the joke they made about her eating casually when they find the ghost, just without the reference

5) when the ghost barfs vomit, have her be more upset it got on the chips then it covering wig

I came up with that in like 30 seconds, any of the above would be funnier then what Sony did, because Sony wasn't trying to make a funny scene, they were trying to advertise pringles.

None of those are good.
 

phanphare

Banned
Not really, but Plinkett's and RLM get a lot of love. People say it's because they back everything up, like it proves their that RLM is right and people can have their confirmation bias internet pat on the back from each other.

I think the most interesting thing about GB16 is everything that took place around the movie... because in the end the movie was just an average reboot that was harmless.

Plinkett reviews get a lot of love because, with few exceptions, they provide a deep dive into the strengths and weaknesses of a movie and provide thoughtful critical analysis while highlighting many examples from each film. you need only watch this Ghostbusters review to see that.
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Plinkett reviews get a lot of love because, with few exceptions, they provide a deep dive into the strengths and weaknesses of a movie and provide thoughtful critical analysis while highlighting many examples from each film. you need only watch this Ghostbusters review to see that.

I thought it did a poor job of that with a tired ass gimmick. It spent too much time on stuff that was pointless, and did a poor job backing up most of what he was trying to prove.
 

yuoke

Banned
Plinkett reviews get a lot of love because, with few exceptions, they provide a deep dive into the strengths and weaknesses of a movie and provide thoughtful critical analysis while highlighting many examples from each film. you need only watch this Ghostbusters review to see that.

Not to mention some people from the industry have even praised the reviews, like Kevin Smith and Simon Pegg. Plus Simon Pegg said he showed the Episode 1 review to JJ Abrams and supposedly he thought it was really good.
 
Not to mention some people from the industry have even praised the reviews, like Kevin Smith and Simon Pegg. Plus Simon Pegg said he showed the Episode 1 review to JJ Abrams and supposedly he thought it was really good.

Yes, but NeoGAF user Nervousxtian hates them. Where is your God now?
 

Tunahead

Member
The most baffling thing about this NervousXtian character is their seeming inability to grasp the basic premise of an Internet forum.

This is the Off-Topic Discussion forum, for discussing things. The clue is in the title.

Here is a good example of a discussion:

Person A: "I didn't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "[explanation for why Person A didn't like thing]"

And here, for contrast, is an example of a really weird thing that happened in this thread instead:

Person A: "I didn't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "Am I not allowed to post in this thread? Are my knees too blunt?"
 

Vamp

Member
I have never seen this guy's reviews so I started watching this one and after 10 seconds I had to stop.
Why does it has to make that annoying voice? Can't he talk normally? I am not sure if this was suppose to be funny but it isn't.
 
The most baffling thing about this NervousXtian character is their seeming inability to grasp the basic premise of an Internet forum.

This is the Off-Topic Discussion forum, for discussing things. The clue is in the title.

Here is a good example of a discussion:

Person A: "I didn't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "[explanation for why Person A didn't like thing]"

And here, for contrast, is an example of a really weird thing that happened in this thread instead:

Person A: "I didn't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "Am I not allowed to post in this thread? Are my knees too blunt?"

Sure, but this thread is also, at times, following the trend of:

Person A: "I don't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "Explains what rubs them the wrong way."
Persons C-Z: "WHY DONT YOU LIKE WHAT I LIKE!?!?!"
 

phanphare

Banned
Sure, but this thread is also, at times, following the trend of:

Person A: "I don't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "Explains what rubs them the wrong way."
Persons C-Z: "WHY DONT YOU LIKE WHAT I LIKE!?!?!"

hmm, haven't seen much of that in this thread. receipts?
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Sure, but this thread is also, at times, following the trend of:

Person A: "I don't like thing."
Person B: "Why?"
Person A: "Explains what rubs them the wrong way."
Persons C-Z: "WHY DONT YOU LIKE WHAT I LIKE!?!?!"

Exactly. I can only repeat myself so many times. Que that one dude asking for you to prove it instead of reading the fucking thread.


And Pringles dude above try reading..my point about Pringles is who cares. Pretending to care makes you look petty.

hmm, haven't seen much of that in this thread. receipts?

Oh look. There he is.
 

Tripon

Member
The pringles thing seems weird because in a movie with shameless product placement, the director and writers are claiming that they just picked a random bag (or in this case, can) of chips so she could have something to eat in the scene.

But why chips? And why Pringles? And why do you have to the logo prominently displayed and have her say the slogan? It's just disingenuous is all, and if they're lying about that, why the heck would they care enough to lie about that?

There's just no reason to lie about that, and the fact that they did just shows at how embarrassed they were about the whole production.
 

Won

Member
The pringles thing seems weird because in a movie with shameless product placement, the director and writers are claiming that they just picked a random bag (or in this case, can) of chips so she could have something to eat in the scene.

But why chips? And why Pringles? And why do you have to the logo prominently displayed and have her say the slogan? It's just disingenuous is all, and if they're lying about that, why the heck would they care enough to lie about that?

There's just no reason to lie about that, and the fact that they did just shows at how embarrassed they were about the whole production.

The cynical answer is that directors like Feig are so used to having to do product placment that they don't even notice anymore. It's just second nature for them to shove product placement into a movie, even if it wasn't intended to be there.
 
I have never seen this guy's reviews so I started watching this one and after 10 seconds I had to stop.
Why does it has to make that annoying voice? Can't he talk normally? I am not sure if this was suppose to be funny but it isn't.
Thanks for giving it a fair chance and basing you opinion on the critical analysis.
 

Orbis

Member
I have never seen this guy's reviews so I started watching this one and after 10 seconds I had to stop.
Why does it has to make that annoying voice? Can't he talk normally? I am not sure if this was suppose to be funny but it isn't.
I thought the same before and bailed after about 10 seconds on another one. But today I decided to force myself watch the Star Wars Episode I review as I know that if I'm gonna agree with anything it would be that.

Sure enough I got over the voice as soon as I realised he was making some really valid points, now I actively enjoy it and will probably watch this Ghostbusters one once I've actually seen the movie. But yeah, the voice was a struggle until my mind had figured out the act he was playing.
 

Sapiens

Member
I thought the same before and bailed after about 10 seconds on another one. But today I decided to force myself watch the Star Wars Episode I review as I know that if I'm gonna agree with anything it would be that.

Sure enough I got over the voice as soon as I realised he was making some really valid points, now I actively enjoy it and will probably watch this Ghostbusters one once I've actually seen the movie. But yeah, the voice was a struggle until my mind had figured out the act he was playing.

Jesus - really?
 

Vamp

Member
I thought the same before and bailed after about 10 seconds on another one. But today I decided to force myself watch the Star Wars Episode I review as I know that if I'm gonna agree with anything it would be that.

Sure enough I got over the voice as soon as I realised he was making some really valid points, now I actively enjoy it and will probably watch this Ghostbusters one once I've actually seen the movie. But yeah, the voice was a struggle until my mind had figured out the act he was playing.

Well I am 30 minutes in lol
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
The pringles thing seems weird because in a movie with shameless product placement, the director and writers are claiming that they just picked a random bag (or in this case, can) of chips so she could have something to eat in the scene.

But why chips? And why Pringles? And why do you have to the logo prominently displayed and have her say the slogan? It's just disingenuous is all, and if they're lying about that, why the heck would they care enough to lie about that?

There's just no reason to lie about that, and the fact that they did just shows at how embarrassed they were about the whole production.

You know they shot scenes multiple times. Could have started harmless and then turned the can to force the joke more. I mean there's reasons that they aren't lying about the scene that make it less sinister.

I mean you jump to the conclusion that it's a lie. Maybe it is maybe it isn't. But there's very explainable reasons that it doesn't have to be.
 

Tripon

Member
You know they shot scenes multiple times. Could have started harmless and then turned the can to force the joke more. I mean there's reasons that they aren't lying about the scene that make it less sinister.

I mean you jump to the conclusion that it's a lie. Maybe it is maybe it isn't. But there's very explainable reasons that it doesn't have to be.

A joke isn't saying the slogan verbatim. A joke is supposed to subvert and mock the subject they're they're riffing on. When Will Ferrell said that Applebees (Talladega Nights)were were a shitty place to eat, that was commenting on their marketing that it's a safe and family oriented place to eat.

What's the joke with Pringles?
 

Cheerilee

Member
I have never seen this guy's reviews so I started watching this one and after 10 seconds I had to stop.
Why does it has to make that annoying voice? Can't he talk normally? I am not sure if this was suppose to be funny but it isn't.

Mike Stoklasa started his youtube career with an attempt to do really long, detailed reviews of Star Trek movies, but he noticed after putting it together that it was difficult to pay attention to a long lecture like that, so rather than doing it "as himself" he tried it again as the "Mr Plinkett" character (an elderly serial killer) he had previously invented with his friend, and he found that it solved many of his problems.

And it was the right move, because his Phantom Menace review became one of the biggest things on the internet, and put RedLetterMedia on the map.

But the voice/character is not for everyone, which is why he drops the character for shows like Half in the Bag where he (and other people from RLM, mostly Jay Bauman) reviews Hollywood movies pretty much as they come out in theater, or Re:View where they pick out something older to shine a deliberate spotlight on. The non-Plinkett shows currently dominate RLM, but every once in a while Mike pulls out a brand new Plinkett review, and it's much-appreciated.

If you want to give Half in the Bag a try, many people would recommend you watch their "Jack and Jill" episode, a brutal takedown of Adam Sandler and Sony (say hello to my chocolate blend).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXNsT7-Lwsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc85QCF5414

Or the Re:View episode on the original Ghostbusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PS7CgXHxps
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
A joke isn't saying the slogan verbatim. A joke is supposed to subvert and mock the subject they're they're riffing on. When Will Ferrell said that Applebees (Talladega Nights)were were a shitty place to eat, that was commenting on their marketing that it's a safe and family oriented place to eat.

What's the joke with Pringles?

Do you really not understand the joke?

People can't be this dim. The joke is she won't stop making noise eating. Then Pringles slogan.

Is it high grade humor. No. But failing yo grasp the joke reflects poorly on you.
 

shoelacer

Banned
Actually if you took the logo off the pringles can the joke still worked. Because it's a pop culture reference we all know.

Whether you think it's funny or not, doesn't matter.

Pop culture references aren't jokes, and calling a chip ad slogan a pop culture reference is a stretch anyway. Good lord.
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
Lol we arguing over Pringles. Well, with all the in movie advertisement I guess they had practice with turning that Pringle logo out, perfectly, in the scenes it was featured.

Also the "Once you pop" quip is pretty good example of how awful the humor could be in this film.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
The pringles thing seems weird because in a movie with shameless product placement, the director and writers are claiming that they just picked a random bag (or in this case, can) of chips so she could have something to eat in the scene.

But why chips? And why Pringles? And why do you have to the logo prominently displayed and have her say the slogan? It's just disingenuous is all, and if they're lying about that, why the heck would they care enough to lie about that?

There's just no reason to lie about that, and the fact that they did just shows at how embarrassed they were about the whole production.

The cynical answer is that directors like Feig are so used to having to do product placment that they don't even notice anymore. It's just second nature for them to shove product placement into a movie, even if it wasn't intended to be there.

I think the answer is that since everything is improv, and people in their 30s are basically just reference machines, McKinnon just started spouting the catchphrases that she's learned as a kid.

Like later in the review she sings that song from The Wizard of Oz, which Feig couldn't recognize and said they had to pay 10k to license. She probably didn't intend or plan to sing the song, but it was just one of a thousand improv takes that they used and she probably did it because she saw the movie as a kid and it's one of the things that just popped out of her brain.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
I think the answer is that since everything is improv, and people in their 30s are basically just reference machines, McKinnon just started spouting the catchphrases that she's learned as a kid.

Like later in the review she sings that song from The Wizard of Oz, which Feig couldn't recognize and said they had to pay 10k to license. She probably didn't intend or plan to sing the song, but it was just one of a thousand improv takes that they used and she probably did it because she saw the movie as a kid and it's one of the things that just popped out of her brain.
This is so clearly what happened I don't even know why it's being debated.
 

Orbis

Member
Isn't it....blatantly obvious it's an act?
Sorry I worded that badly. It's obviously an act, but at first it's nothing but a weird voice, then you start to get some context with the disturbing basement videos etc. That's when I 'got it' and stopped hating it.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
That probably says more about McKinnon's improv abilities though if all she can do is reference stuff.

I'm sure she's capable of more than just that. I think it's more like the popularity of reference nostalgia humor is popular nowadays, so why not throw a bunch of them in. e.g. Family Guy.
 

MC Safety

Member
The pringles thing seems weird because in a movie with shameless product placement, the director and writers are claiming that they just picked a random bag (or in this case, can) of chips so she could have something to eat in the scene.

But why chips? And why Pringles? And why do you have to the logo prominently displayed and have her say the slogan? It's just disingenuous is all, and if they're lying about that, why the heck would they care enough to lie about that?

There's just no reason to lie about that, and the fact that they did just shows at how embarrassed they were about the whole production.

What probably happened was they wrote the scene with the general description of "woman is eating something while wackiness ensues" and then plugged in Pringles when the check cleared.

That way the writer can claim it was just a generic foodstuff in the script and the scene can be product placement.

The criticism of the film is very good. But the product placement stuff is not very interesting or enlightening.
 
Do you really not understand the joke?

People can't be this dim. The joke is she won't stop making noise eating. Then Pringles slogan.

Is it high grade humor. No. But failing yo grasp the joke reflects poorly on you.

What would really be dim would be if someone actually thought the problem here is that people just aren't getting this Pringles "joke". Imagine if someone actually thought that.
 
What probably happened was they wrote the scene with the general description of "woman is eating something while wackiness ensues" and then plugged in Pringles when the check cleared.

That way the writer can claim it was just a generic foodstuff in the script and the scene can be product placement.

The criticism of the film is very good. But the product placement stuff is not very interesting or enlightening.

The product placement is perfectly normal for Sony Pictures which is depressing in its own right
 

Won

Member
I think the answer is that since everything is improv, and people in their 30s are basically just reference machines, McKinnon just started spouting the catchphrases that she's learned as a kid.

Like later in the review she sings that song from The Wizard of Oz, which Feig couldn't recognize and said they had to pay 10k to license. She probably didn't intend or plan to sing the song, but it was just one of a thousand improv takes that they used and she probably did it because she saw the movie as a kid and it's one of the things that just popped out of her brain.

I just like to give the actresses a bit of benefit of doubt. But then again this movie pre-release/release campaign was just weird. Still not sure if they were praising Hemsworth or tried to shift blame on him for the "Mike Hat" joke.

"He came up with it all by himself!"

Erm, yeah, I sure hope no writer got paid for that.
 
I just like to give the actresses a bit of benefit of doubt. But then again this movie pre-release/release campaign was just weird. Still not sure if they were praising Hemsworth or tried to shift blame on him for the "Mike Hat" joke.

"He came up with it all by himself!"

Erm, yeah, I sure hope no writer got paid for that.

I think in the Half in the Bag review Mike admitted he actually liked that joke, I'm gonna rewatch it now
 
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