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iPhone 8 should cost $1,500?

Yep, iMessage has completely gotten rid of any worry I've had that that you're message wasn't sent. Plus it's seamless to text from other devices if you have them.

Honestly it's weird that people even think there's something wrong with people wanting to solely use an objectively superior messaging service.

I don’t know if they think it’s wrong that someone prefers iMessage. They likely take offense to the characterization of green bubble people as plebs.

Even though I think most folks speaking against those green bubble people are only joking.
 
Honestly it's weird that people even think there's something wrong with people wanting to solely use an objectively superior phone.
FTFY ;-)

To be honest I'd be happier with a higher price so demand is less and I have a better chance of getting the SKU I want day 1.
 

Rktk

Member
It didn't the last time I was on Android.

Is it universal? or does it depend on the phones, message apps, and/or carriers?

It's part of the SMS standard so it's been there since time immemorial. Most carriers support it in my experience but not all. With Android the option is off by default one would need to go into settings.
 
It's part of the SMS standard so it's been there since time immemorial. Most carriers support it in my experience but not all. With Android the option is off by default one would need to go into settings.
That's probably what it is then, no idea why they'd have that off on default.

Mr.Shrugglesツ;243038523 said:
I don't think Android has ever not had read receipts.
delivery you mean?
 

Beeks

Member
I'm 24. I shit you not, I graduated in 2016, I had a 6 person group assignment and they left one guy off the group text because he caused them to use their text messages. He'd find out things the next day or so in class.

I was a member of multiple clubs and organizations on campus as well as had to do multiple group assignments, and my entire school life revolved around Facebook Groups and Chat. My main group, the entertainment service on campus, literally had about 8 or 9 Facebook Groups that we ran to operate our different committees and teams.

Nobody texted because everyone knew everyone could be found on Facebook Chat (before the separate Messenger app) - honestly, most of us didn't have other people's numbers unless they were important contacts who might need to be urgently called.

The idea that people are relying on iMessage groups when they are probably Facebook members and have access to a better cross-platform solution is crazy, but I guess the younger generation really does think Facebook is only for their parents.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Yep, iMessage has completely gotten rid of any worry I've had that that you're message wasn't sent. Plus it's seamless to text from other devices if you have them.

Honestly it's weird that people even think there's something wrong with people wanting to solely use an objectively superior messaging service.

I send a message to my wife. She has iMessage on her iPad but her phone is android. Her contact has her email and phone number in it. Where does my message get sent?
 
Yep, iMessage has completely gotten rid of any worry I've had that that you're message wasn't sent. Plus it's seamless to text from other devices if you have them.

Honestly it's weird that people even think there's something wrong with people wanting to solely use an objectively superior messaging service.

An objectively superior messaging service that is locked to an ecosystem that a fraction of the world uses and the hardware is super expensive for what you're getting? Doesn't sound superior to me. I'll stick to Whatsapp/Facebook Messenger because at least I don't need to switch between a bunch of different apps because my friends don't have Macs and iPhones.
 
I send a message to my wife. She has iMessage on her iPad but her phone is android. Her contact has her email and phone number in it. Where does my message get sent?

If you send it to her phone number, her phone

If you send it to her email address, her iPad. Assuming that email address is her AppleID and signed into iMessage

A phone number only gets tied to iMessage account when it’s in an active iPhone
 

axb2013

Member
$500 is the most I would ever spend on a phone, regardless of brand/OS. I'm still on the original OPO, I like the Galaxy S8 but no way am I spending that much on a phone, even with a payment plan through T-mobile.

I grew up in a time when 160 characters was enough, if I needed to convey a novel sized message, I didn't complain about the limitation, I typed out another message, made a call, or better yet, actually met up and had a real conversation.

My most costly gadget so far was my first phone, the Nokia 8110, 20 years ago. If it wasn't for the novelty factor, I probably wouldn't have paid a small fortune for it as I was a teenager at the time.

I was obsessed with phones, display tech, SoC's, an early adopter, (remember G1?) spent countless hours researching and modding my devices. I still use my phone for all kinds of things, it's become a necessity but I don't let my phone take control over me.
People should stop obsessing about phones and social media, their lives would improve for it. Use the tech, it has so many essential services but don't become enslaved to it. It's socially unacceptable not to have a phone nowadays, I'm not suggesting it's a good idea to go off the grid completely but people invest way too much into phones and social media.

Iphones work great, my mother never got along with any Android phones I tried to get her to use. I got her an iphone that she's happy with, she now knows more about it than I did when I first introduced her to it.

Again, I wouldn't pay the implied price for the iphone or any other phone for that matter but I do worry that it might motivate people to pay the iron price to get their hands on one if indeed it gets priced at $1500. When I see people camping stores to buy consoles or phones pay ridiculous scalper fees online, I perceive it as decline of civilization. Would hanging onto the previous model for a little longer really hurt that much? Everyone who ends up with less money in their account than the amount they pay for a new phone should sit down and think long and hard about their priorities.

SMS is fine. If the relevant parties (OEM's, carriers) can agree on a new universal service that adds more functionality and doesn't have the limitations of SMS, that's great. However, a universal service was agreed upon a long time ago, now it seems much harder to get all the parties involved to play along.
 
are we fighting about cell phones

1990s: OS Wars - Mac Vs Windows....although War seems to be a misnomer since Mac was barely a speck of dust compared to Windows then

2000s: Browser Wars - Firefox Vs IE........winner: Chrome!

2010s: Smartphone platform Wars - IOS vs Android.........Winner: NOT Windows Phone/Blackberry/Tizen....

2020s and beyond: Smart AI Wars - Siri vs Google Knowledge Graph/Assistant vs Alexia vs Cortana..........Loser: Homo Sapiens........By your command.
 

ponpo

( ≖‿≖)
New rumour of mirror "color" options

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/07/10/iphone-8-color-options-mirror-like-casing/

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Worth 15..no...1600.
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
iPhones are already overpriced compared to the comparible, and better top end droid phones.

I'd pay 1000$ never to have iTunes be involved in any part of my life ever again.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Y'all doing an Apple vs Android war in here? Why? I've have both and can appreciate the nuances of both. I had a Nexus 6 and then 6P forever and now have an iPhone 7 Plus.

Also, no one from Apple came out and said the 8 will be $1500. This is just a weird opinion.

So everyone calm down.

Looks super tacky.
That's because that photo is a mirror case slapped on to an iPhone 6 or something. If Apple goes with Mirror it'll look like the old iPods I'd guess, but updated.
 

Harmen

Member
I wouldn't pay that much for a phone. As is, my last three smartphones or so did almost everything I wanted already and still work fine (iphone 5, Sony Xperia Z3, and Galaxy S7).

It would stop being better the second it stops getting updates, four months after launch.

This is not the case, not even for less popular brands like Sony.
 
An objectively superior messaging service that is locked to an ecosystem that a fraction of the world uses and the hardware is super expensive for what you're getting? Doesn't sound superior to me. I'll stick to Whatsapp/Facebook Messenger because at least I don't need to switch between a bunch of different apps because my friends don't have Macs and iPhones.
Calling it super expensive for what you're getting sounds like a personal preference and doesn't really change the actual messaging service being better. I've never felt I was getting ripped off with how much I enjoy having an iPhone. And since 99% percent of the people I interact with have an iPhone, it's global market share means nothing to me.
 

Neo_Geo

Banned
I thought this was going to be about how it would cost that if not made with third-world labor.

Fun fact: The rumored $1,500 iPhone could easily be made without slave labor and sell for half the price tag....And still make a huge profit for Apple.

The phones aren't high priced because the tech is that damn good, it's because morons will pay the entry fee without blinking an eye year after year. Apple could shift to making the phones in a decent manner, price the units at an ascending $299-$499 scale depending on memory/features, and still be a very healthy company. Possibly even healthier overall since there is the possibility that even more people would buy new phones more often.
 
I'd just like for the 7s to have a longer battery life and the portrait mode that the 7+ currently has. That'll be enough for me. My 6s is acting up and the screen has been cracked for quite some time now.
 
Fun fact: The rumored $1,500 iPhone could easily be made without slave labor and sell for half the price tag....And still make a huge profit for Apple.

The phones aren't high priced because the tech is that damn good, it's because morons will pay the entry fee without blinking an eye year after year. Apple could shift to making the phones in a decent manner, price the units at an ascending $299-$499 scale depending on memory/features, and still be a very healthy company. Possibly even healthier overall since there is the possibility that even more people would buy new phones more often.



Decent manner? If it wasn't for apple being a pioneer, factories making electronics would be even worse places.
 
Fun fact: The rumored $1,500 iPhone could easily be made without slave labor and sell for half the price tag....And still make a huge profit for Apple.

The phones aren't high priced because the tech is that damn good, it's because morons will pay the entry fee without blinking an eye year after year. Apple could shift to making the phones in a decent manner, price the units at an ascending $299-$499 scale depending on memory/features, and still be a very healthy company. Possibly even healthier overall since there is the possibility that even more people would buy new phones more often.

I’m gonna need a BOM breakdown for the next iPhone, as well as a breakdown of all R&D/development costs for the next iPhone to buy your “half the price” claim.

It shouldn’t be hard to find, since you did open your statement by calling it a fact.
 

GodofWine

Member
Thats more than the average american has saved in the bank I believe...GEE I WONDER WHY MISTER I HAVE A SHINY NEW PHONE!


I like nice stuff and all, but phones and cars can just go get f'd...they depreciated 'NOW' and are never the 'new thing' for more than 6 months.

I have a $80 LG something that does every last thing I would want to do on a phone. I'll keep my $1000's in my bank account.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Thats more than the average american has saved in the bank I believe...GEE I WONDER WHY MISTER I HAVE A SHINY NEW PHONE!


I like nice stuff and all, but phones and cars can just go get f'd...they depreciated 'NOW' and are never the 'new thing' for more than 6 months.

I have a $80 LG something that does every last thing I would want to do on a phone. I'll keep my $1000's in my bank account.

Yeah bro. More power to you.

However, don't hate on those who want to treat themselves.
 

KSweeley

Member
Look at this, a person is saying people WILL pay $1,000+ for an iPhone: https://500ish.com/apple-prime-and-the-iphone-pro-40d970060c8b

The uproar over Gruber's post is mainly predicated around how no one will want to pay over $1,000 for a phone. Which is hogwash, of course. People will pay.

As Gruber notes, for many folks — myself included — the iPhone is the most important computer they own. If someone can afford to pay for an improved iPhone — and cost/price is something to be mindful of, but this is a typical question for Apple since, well, forever — they will. And for those people, it will be worth it.
 

avaya

Member
Very few people will be buying the phone outright. Apple will hope again hope this has sufficient pull amongst the carriers that they will again all out compete each other to subsidise or remove the barrier to entry to owning the device even at this level of pricing.

They will of course do it because for the carriers in developed markets the upgrade to such a device presents an opportunity to upsell their customers onto higher price plans. Given Iphone customers skew towards a wealthier demographic in all markets this tends to be quite successfully executed provided the new phone is sufficiently different to the previous model.....the shape and form factor will be enough again.
 
An objectively superior messaging service that is locked to an ecosystem that a fraction of the world uses and the hardware is super expensive for what you're getting? Doesn't sound superior to me. I'll stick to Whatsapp/Facebook Messenger because at least I don't need to switch between a bunch of different apps because my friends don't have Macs and iPhones.

He's pretty clearly talking about iMessage vs normal SMS/MMS and not comparing it to WhatsApp and FB Messenger.
 

Arkage

Banned
Mr.Shrugglesツ;243064974 said:
Decent manner? If it wasn't for apple being a pioneer, factories making electronics would be even worse places.

Well at least Apple is pushing factories up to the 3rd tier of hell instead of the 6th. Don't want to take too much ownership over how their stuff is made, though. It would dig too deeply into their yearly billion dollar profit margins.
 

VertPin

Member
I'm surprised this thread isn't a graveyard lmfao.

I'm not sure if people would still buy the new iPhone this September for $1500 outright. However, I know people would definitely finance it.
I'm buying it day one. I own a 256GB 7 Plus.
 

Only 11 percent of Barclays survey respondents are interested in an iPhone that costs more than $1,000
18 percent of consumers who already own an iPhone are willing to spend more than $1,000
Most consumers want to spend $582 on a new phone

Doesn't their article immediately contradict their title?

I'm sure that Apple would be pretty happy if 11% of their iPhone sales were the new Pro model.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Apple reportedly planning $999 price for new iPhone
Apple’s redesigned iPhone is going to be an expensive one. According to The New York Times, the nearly bezel free iPhone we’ve been hearing about for the last several months will sell for “around $999,” about $350 more than the standard iPhone does today.

Next month, Apple is expected to introduce three new iPhones. Two will be slightly redesigned and updated versions of the iPhone 7, and one will be this high-end iPhone with a brand new design and a nearly full-screen display. There had been speculation before now that this iPhone would be at least $1,000: for one, Apple would need to charge more than $769, the price of the Plus-sized iPhone; and two, there’s been some assumption that Apple will want to depress sales a bit so that it can better manage supply. But this is the first time a price has actually been reported.
 
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