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Resident Evil 2 Remake : Is it cancel?

What do you think is going to happen with Resident Evil 2's Remake?


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Jawmuncher

Member
Yeah nothing from the developer conferences ever said RE engine was only for First Person. So the engine is probably more versatile than many of us think.

Let's just stay away from first person. Seeing Claire and Leon limp around the R.P.D. are part of what made the game iconic. There should be some level of deference to the presentation of the original game - it was incredible.

In the general scheme of things I think the most amount of controversy would be as followed

First Person RE2make - Most Controversy
Third Person Over the Shoulder - Mild Controversy
Fixed Camera - Least Controversy

Despite the reception of RE7. The game being in first person seems to be the biggest criticism I see most often even for fans of the games.
Only with those having a VR headset being really for it.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
If you want to make a more action heavy game, that's why spinoffs exist.

The mainline series doesn't need anymore bad games.

They got lucky with RE4, which is a great game. 5 and 6 tried to recreate that and failed. If Resi 8 takes a more action heavy approach I'll give them the chance they deserve after Resi 7, but 2 needs to be more in the classic style, that's just something you don't mess with. RE2 controls fine to this day.

5 is a fantastic game though. They didn't fail at all.
 

Peroroncino

Member
IT IS NOT CANCEL!

Hopefully we'll learn more during TGS.

Yeah nothing from the developer conferences ever said RE engine was only for First Person. So the engine is probably more versatile than many of us think.



In the general scheme of things I think the most amount of controversy would be as followed

First Person RE2make - Most Controversy
Third Person Over the Shoulder - Milk Controversy
Fixed Camera - Least Controversy

If it's gonna be first person I ain't even gonna play it. 'First person RE' is an oxymoron to me.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
And if Resident Evil 2 Remake is a $60 retail release, many people will not expect it to play just like the PS1 game.

No matter what happens, people are going to be disappointed. For example, I would be very happy with a classic-style game but I want the look and style of RE4/5 with slower-paced gameplay.

What I don't want is a single first person moment in the game. I will be massively disappointed if we don't get to see Claire or Leon while we play.

Like I said earlier, I don't think it's a given that it's going to be a classic-style RE game, but anyone expecting otherwise should really adjust their expectations.

In the general scheme of things I think the most amount of controversy would be as followed

First Person RE2make - Most Controversy
Third Person Over the Shoulder - Milk Controversy
Fixed Camera - Least Controversy

I would more or less agree with this, but whether it's action or horror based is more important. An RE6 style action TPS would boil my piss way more than a first person horror RE2.
 

AAK

Member
I don't see how anyone could be legitimately mad if it's an old-school RE game with updated graphics. It's a remake of a classic game, not RE8. Anyone that does get angry about this has unrealistic expectations.

Unless it is using pre-rendered backgrounds, then I would find it disappointing if it's just a carbon copy with updated visuals.

There is a very good reason why fixed camera angles in a shooting game are now a gameplay relic in this industry. But alas it is Capcom and even though RE7 was phenomenal SFV and MvCI are reasons for concern.
 

Sesha

Member
I'd take first person RE2 and DmC 2 over third person RE2.

Yeah nothing from the developer conferences ever said RE engine was only for First Person. So the engine is probably more versatile than many of us think.

I think the integrated report from last year mentioned that it was optimized for VR or something like that, but nothing about first person.
 

Skeeter49

Member
5 is a fantastic game though. They didn't fail at all.
To me the only ones to succeed were 4 and Revelations 2. Going to start RE7 this week.

The classic style faltered as well for me, Resi 3 is an example of that, I'd call Resi 3 worst than OG Resi 1, but for me it was more reliable.
 

Sesha

Member
Unless it is using pre-rendered backgrounds, then I would find it disappointing if it's just a carbon copy with updated visuals.

There is a very good reason why fixed camera angles in a shooting game are now a gameplay relic in this industry. But alas it is Capcom and even though RE7 was phenomenal SFV and MvCI are reasons for concern.

REmake wasn't a carbon copy, and regardless of camera I expect there to be other changes to the game.
 

luulubuu

Junior Member
Yeah nothing from the developer conferences ever said RE engine was only for First Person. So the engine is probably more versatile than many of us think.



In the general scheme of things I think the most amount of controversy would be as followed

First Person RE2make - Most Controversy
Third Person Over the Shoulder - Mild Controversy
Fixed Camera - Least Controversy

Despite the reception of RE7. The game being in first person seems to be the biggest criticism I see most often even for fans of the games.
Only with those having a VR headset being really for it.

People also criticise the dull of the game by being generic. I dont really share that view, I think they tried very hard to make a grounded RE with many of the cheesy elements out like coloured protagonists, segments of the story etc, which could result in that, people seeing it as generic.

Still dislike the final twsit of the game

No. It works fine. Thanks for your concern, though. :)

Then use it
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Unless it is using pre-rendered backgrounds, then I would find it disappointing if it's just a carbon copy with updated visuals.

I wasn't suggesting that. I meant an update the way that REmake was an update. Take a classic game and add new elements that are totally in line with the previous vision of the game, whilst also overhauling the graphics. For example it felt weird playing the original RE without crimsonheads.
 

Gasian

Member
Yeah nothing from the developer conferences ever said RE engine was only for First Person. So the engine is probably more versatile than many of us think.



In the general scheme of things I think the most amount of controversy would be as followed

First Person RE2make - Most Controversy
Third Person Over the Shoulder - Milk Controversy
Fixed Camera - Least Controversy

Despite the reception of RE7. The game being in first person seems to be the biggest criticism I see most often even for fans of the games.
Only with those having a VR headset being really for it.
So let me say this. At this point, with how different RE has been throughout its lifetime as a series, I am totally fine with any of those styles. I just want a great game, like how I felt with the original RE2. I will judge it on those merits even if I prefer them going classic with fixed camera. This dumb gameplay preference debate destroys fanbases. Like I know ppl have preferences and that is fine. Also not liking certain games is totally fine but it being the only reason that the game is bad and not how the game is, is ridiculous to me. So, in my opinion, we need to judge a Remake of a game (which can be totally different) as a game first. I think sometimes some fans forget that. So I am excited for REmake 2, for whatever style it takes.
Sorry for the rant, just something that has always bothered me. Also I wish you a Dino Crisis REmake or REboot eventually ;)
 

Archtreyz

Member
Didn't Capcom bring the group that was working on an over-the-shoulder remake of 2 into the studio for consultation over the remake?
 

georly

Member
Well then they shouldn't be calling it Resident Evil 2 in that case. That game is beloved, and if you put that name on the box then people will expect it to play a certain way.

It's beloved to handful of diehard old-school fans. Maybe a few newcomers. They want to sell to new people, too. You don't do that with old-school game mechanics. A "prettier" and "marginally improved" remake is pretty pointless in the AAA space, if you ask me. If it's mostly like the old game then there really was no need to remake it in the first place, it should have just been ported or outsourced to a small studio to HD-ify it.

If you're going to put in a huge level of effort to have it sell in the AAA space, then you remake it, whole-cloth, as a modern game using the old setting/story. A new game is better than a "pretty" version of the old game, if you ask me. The old game still exists for you to play if you prefer the old game.

There's a reason capcom moved away from those old games - they weren't selling. REmake was done BEFORE RE4, before they figured out what sold better. The HD ports we got were low level of effort comparatively. If you go in expecting this to play like something pre RE4, you're likely gonna have a bad time. If you're ***LUCKY*** you'll get an homage or control scheme similar to the oldschool RE, but that sure as hell isn't going to be the default way to play, I'd imagine.

Hope for a wink and a nod from capcom, but don't expect this game to cater to you. They want money, not golfclaps.
 

RSB

Banned
I mean maybe there's a reason behind that. You guys are saying that I don't want a new classic RE when I already said many times that I want to I would like a reimagination of the game to see what they could pull off. That's it.
There sure is, and it's called Resident Evil 4.

Anyway, if you want a reimagining of RE2 that's cool. You asked if anyone who wanted the RE2 Remake in the classic style had played a classic RE recently, and I answered. That's it.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
It's beloved to handful of diehard old-school fans. Maybe a few newcomers. They want to sell to new people, too. You don't do that with old-school game mechanics. A "prettier" and "marginally improved" remake is pretty pointless in the AAA space, if you ask me. If it's mostly like the old game then there really was no need to remake it in the first place, it should have just been ported or outsourced to a small studio to HD-ify it.

If you're going to put in a huge level of effort to have it sell in the AAA space, then you remake it, whole-cloth, as a modern game using the old setting/story. A new game is better than a "pretty" version of the old game, if you ask me. The old game still exists for you to play if you prefer the old game.

There's a reason capcom moved away from those old games - they weren't selling. REmake was done BEFORE RE4, before they figured out what sold better. The HD ports we got were low level of effort comparatively. If you go in expecting this to play like something pre RE4, you're likely gonna have a bad time. If you're ***LUCKY*** you'll get an homage or control scheme similar to the oldschool RE, but that sure as hell isn't going to be the default way to play, I'd imagine.

Hope for a wink and a nod from capcom, but don't expect this game to cater to you. They want money, not golfclaps.

I think you are massively underestimating the appeal of classic RE games, just look at how well REmake HD sold (which is why we are getting this game in the first place). You are mistaken if you think a classic version is just some kind of fan service.

Also this:

So, how do you explain the success of the Crash collection, then? After all, that's just "old" gameplay, with prettier graphics. Also, RE2 isn't just beloved by a "handful" of fans. It sold almost 6 million copies, and is one of the most acclaimed entries in the series. I think it could sell well in the classic style due to nostalgia alone, just as Crash did. The question is whether or not Capcom believes this.

As for the older games not selling well, bear in mind that REmake and RE0 were exclusive to GameCube, which isn't the platform the RE fanbase was on. Also, bear in mind that Survival Horror was an oversaturated genre at the time, and fatigue had set in. There hasn't been a game like this in over a decade however, and RE2 will be multi-platform, so these would no longer be concerns.
 

kc44135

Member
It's beloved to handful of diehard old-school fans. Maybe a few newcomers. They want to sell to new people, too. You don't do that with old-school game mechanics. A "prettier" and "marginally improved" remake is pretty pointless in the AAA space, if you ask me. If it's mostly like the old game then there really was no need to remake it in the first place, it should have just been ported or outsourced to a small studio to HD-ify it.

If you're going to put in a huge level of effort to have it sell in the AAA space, then you remake it, whole-cloth, as a modern game using the old setting/story. A new game is better than a "pretty" version of the old game, if you ask me. The old game still exists for you to play if you prefer the old game.

There's a reason capcom moved away from those old games - they weren't selling. REmake was done BEFORE RE4, before they figured out what sold better. The HD ports we got were low level of effort comparatively. If you go in expecting this to play like something pre RE4, you're likely gonna have a bad time. If you're ***LUCKY*** you'll get an homage or control scheme similar to the oldschool RE, but that sure as hell isn't going to be the default way to play, I'd imagine.

Hope for a wink and a nod from capcom, but don't expect this game to cater to you. They want money, not golfclaps.

So, how do you explain the success of the Crash collection, then? After all, that's just "old" gameplay, with prettier graphics. Also, RE2 isn't just beloved by a "handful" of fans. It sold almost 6 million copies, and is one of the most acclaimed entries in the series. I think it could sell well in the classic style due to nostalgia alone, just as Crash did. The question is whether or not Capcom believes this.

As for the older games not selling well, bear in mind that REmake and RE0 were exclusive to GameCube, which isn't the platform the RE fanbase was on. Also, bear in mind that Survival Horror was an oversaturated genre at the time, and fatigue had set in. There hasn't been a game like this in over a decade however, and RE2 will be multi-platform, so these would no longer be concerns.

ALso, I hate that people keep saying there's no reason to REmake RE2 as it was. There absolutely is a reason, and it the same reason as RE1. The original game looks like crap nowadays (I love this game y'all, but c'mon, you now it's true). A proper REmake of RE2 could preserve the original experience, perhaps adding to it like REmake did for RE1 (whilst still staying faithful to the original overall), and it could look good by current standards. There's the reason.
 

RSB

Banned
In the general scheme of things I think the most amount of controversy would be as followed

First Person RE2make - Most Controversy
Third Person Over the Shoulder - Mild Controversy
Fixed Camera - Least Controversy

Despite the reception of RE7. The game being in first person seems to be the biggest criticism I see most often even for fans of the games.
Only with those having a VR headset being really for it.
As a fan of both classic and action RE I agree with your "controversy ranking" (LOL)

If RE2 Remake ends up being in the style of RE4-6 I'd be disappointed, but not nearly as much as if it ends up being in the style of RE7.
 

BadWolf

Member
As a fan of both classic and action RE I agree with your "controversy ranking" (LOL)

If RE2 Remake ends up being in the style of RE4-6 I'd be disappointed, but not nearly as much as if it ends up being in the style of RE7.

RE7 style would also be the least successful when it comes to sales I think.
 

Aggelos

Member
Has anyone heard any updates from this?

its been forever since it was announced but no new updates since then...

i really thought they would pull the trigger this E3 but nothing...


What forever? It's been only 2 years since it was announced.
Nowadays the development of games requires a lot of time and resources. So be sure to hold tight and have considerable patience.

If it was cancelled, producer Kobayashi wouldn't have made a statement about it
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1393618


Do you have any other upcoming projects you’d like to tease?

Hiroyuki Kobayashi: The only thing I can tell you is about something that’s already out in the public. Resident Evil 2, a remade version, the game, will be out from Capcom soon.
 

Fisico

Member
No. That's marketing.

That's ressources.
And marketing don't create demo/trailer screenshots by themselves, it has to be done with help from the development team which provide footages, builds etc, with some specific builds even created for the sake of marketing.
 
I was hoping for a REmake-esque version of RE2 complete with shitty tank controls. Not being sarcastic here.

This is still hopefully what we're getting

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What is object permanence.

lmao
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I was hoping for a REmake-esque version of RE2 complete with shitty tank controls. Not being sarcastic here.

No need to qualify that statement, it's what most people want and expect.
 

Keym

Member
Cassic REmake 2 got scrapped and turned into an open-world FPS dating sim with RPG elements and a wacky companion of no distinct race or gender.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Cassic REmake 2 got scrapped and turned into an open-world FPS dating sim with RPG elements and a wacky companion of no distinct race or gender.

Still sounds better than RE6.
 
I hope we see a trailer this year. But I think they probably want to get all the RE7 content done with before showing anything. I think it will be shown at E3 2018. I hope im wrong though.
 

synce

Member
I think if something's not revealed before Halloween it's safe to assume they silently killed it. But if it was going to be anything like RE5-7 then good riddance
 
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