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Armband-wearing Nazi roams Seattle instigating, gets KOed, removes armband and leaves

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Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Man, if only someone had told Eisenhower this.
As if we don't have Chamberlain to learn from and see what happens when you try to appease Nazis. Their goal is a violent one. They will use whatever means given to them to accomplish it. When they're weak, they will fool you into believing that they are nothing to be too overtly concerned with. They just want to be allowed to express their beliefs and views. When they take power, they want you to believe that all they want to do is make their country better, and they have no intention to do any harm.

They want you to believe all that horse shit, right up to the point where they're goose stepping into your country, or rounding you up and sending you to camps.
 
"The more our adversaries believe they can obstruct our development by employing a degree of terror that is characteristic of their nature, the more they encourage it. Nietzsche said that a blow which does not kill a strong man only makes him stronger, and his words are confirmed a thousand times. Every blow strengthens our defiance, every persecution reinforces our single-minded determination, and the elements that do fall are good riddance to the movement.”

-Adolph Hitler

"Punch those Nazis harder." -Nietzsche
 
"The more our adversaries believe they can obstruct our development by employing a degree of terror that is characteristic of their nature, the more they encourage it. Nietzsche said that a blow which does not kill a strong man only makes him stronger, and his words are confirmed a thousand times. Every blow strengthens our defiance, every persecution reinforces our single-minded determination, and the elements that do fall are good riddance to the movement.”

-Adolph Hitler


"Love is the only way to grasp another human being in the innermost core of his personality. No one can become fully aware of the very essence of another human being unless he loves him. By his love he is enabled to see the essential traits and features in the beloved person; and even more, he sees that which is potential in him, which is not yet actualized but yet ought to be actualized. Furthermore, by his love, the loving person enables the beloved person to actualize these potentialities. By making him aware of what he can be and of what he should become, he makes these potentialities come true."

-Viktor E Frankl

I wish it was as simple as just punching the problem away. Or putting a bullet in it. I do not condone acts of hate by choosing to not be violent, I condone those acts because of my indifference.

What the hell are these quotes mean dawg

We should've loved Hitler?
 
While as a minority I find them kind of terrifying from an intellectual standpoint I find these threads fascinating as a study in how human history finds a way to repeat itself. It's pretty clear that as time passes and the horrors of the previous age become distant memories people become comfortable enough to start to entertain notions that they're somehow smarter or better than people were in the past when they're really not. Fascism doesn't happen overnight, it sneaks up on you and you feel comfortable enough to play the waiting game to see if it actually happens here then the only thing I can assume is that you're either completely ignorant of the past or in a position to not be effected by it.
 
While as a minority I find them kind of terrifying from an intellectual standpoint I find these threads fascinating as a study in how human history finds a way to repeat itself. It's pretty clear that as time passes and the horrors of the previous age become distant memories people become comfortable enough to start to entertain notions that they're somehow smarter or better than people were in the past when they're really not. Fascism doesn't happen overnight, it sneaks up on you and you feel comfortable enough to play the waiting game to see if it actually happens here then the only thing I can assume is that you're either completely ignorant of the past or in a position to not be effected by it.

You're certainly in a strange position to make such a statement after your "innocent questioning" about how violence against Nazis shouldn't be our immediate go-to.
 

Sibylus

Banned
"I can tell you that for five days and five nights not one of us closed an eye. We knew that if the French marched, we were done. We had no fortifications, and no army to match the French. If the French had even mobilized, we should have been compelled to retire."

(On the re-militarization of the Rhineland in 1936. One of many instances of inaction that empowered the Nazis!)
 

Nokterian

Member
I went to bed and just woken up..the fuck is this shit. People are still defending fucking NAZI'S? What in the fucking world...

Seeing stuff yet again 'both sides' 'in the middle' 'whataboutism'..get the fuck out with this shit.
 
Read up on the sociology of how a people can get conditioned for mass killing. They are normal people who slowly become approving of and used to mass killing.

Jonathan Glover's Humanity is a relatively easy read and points out commonalities in the Armenian genocide, the Holocaust, Stalin and Mao's massacres, the Khmer Rouge, the Balkans, and the Rwandan conflict.

You're no doubt a better person than any of those who took part in those atrocities, but that's a good bit of luck of not being born into those societies. That doesn't mean you aren't righteous, just that being righteous has a lot to do with luck.

Dude, I was laughing at the space aliens part.
 

nekkid

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I've watched that video, like 15 times now.

Man, I don't think that shit's ever gonna get old.
 
35% of the country still supports him so.....

And plenty of Trump supporters opposed the Charlottesville shit.

Nazis are not the face of 2017 racism. Indifference to subtler but more pernicious racism is that face, and as shitty and ugly as it is, it is a pretty far cry from a fascist takeover and ethnic cleansing, which our society does not currently demonstrate any real trajectory toward.
 
I went to bed and just woken up..the fuck is this shit. People are still defending fucking NAZI'S? What in the fucking world...

Seeing stuff yet again 'both sides' 'in the middle' 'whataboutism'..get the fuck out with this shit.


I know right? People acting like Antifa pulled out the ark of the covenant and melted this fool, lol. If anything, Nazi fucks like this guy deserve the Kali-ma treatment when they act out terrorizing people.
 
We are, of course, speaking of US society in 2017, no?

Although we have made great strides with anti-racism over the past several decades since MLK's passing, I feel like during this current administration, one main goal among people in the US who aren't Nazi's are first and foremost trying to make sure we don't take any steps backwards. Continuing to make progress during this current administration would be a welcome bonus though.
 
I went to bed and just woken up..the fuck is this shit. People are still defending fucking NAZI'S? What in the fucking world...

Seeing stuff yet again 'both sides' 'in the middle' 'whataboutism'..get the fuck out with this shit.

People love thinking they're above it all. Makes them feel nice and warm inside.

It's the same thing with conspiracy theorist, really. The notion that you're special because you believe in some stupid bullshit that goes against the grain.

The irony, of course, being that your philosophy or mindset isn't very special when it's shared by millions of others. Still, it's enough to give them a smug attitude.
 

Mr. X

Member
Ahh ok. I'll let you live in a bubble where it's ok to broadstroke all people of a certain color then.
saying white people won't scare off white people who are sick of this bullshit too. White people are sick of white people in this thread more concerned about Nazis getting punched than white supremacists killing miniorities and voting against equality and fairness.
 
And plenty of Trump supporters opposed the Charlottesville shit.

Nazis are not the face of 2017 racism. Indifference to subtler but more pernicious racism is that face, and as shitty and ugly as it is, it is a pretty far cry from a fascist takeover and ethnic cleansing, which our society does not currently demonstrate any real trajectory toward.

Define plenty? Mind you , his approval rating is hovering in the mid to low 30s, so 28% approval of his response isn't "plenty" of his supporters disagreeing with his response IMO.



http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...prove-of-trumps-charlottesville-response-poll

Fifty-six percent of Americans polled disapprove of how Trump responded to the attack, while 28 percent approve of his reaction in the new survey.

A majority of Republican respondents, 62 percent, approved of the president’s reaction, and only 19 percent disapproved. Eight-four percent of Democrats polled disapproved of Trump’s r
 
Polls indicate that the overwhelming majority of Republicans agree with the "both sides" narrative.

This is true, but it at least holds the Nazis in contempt, even if "antifa sucks, too!" is also unfortunately tagged on the end. Again, my point is that the "Nazis are/could soon be" taking over panic is misplaced. Even if data suggest people are not ready for the radical racial enema America so desperately needs, they also basically accept that overt white supremacy of the Charlottesville variety is wrong and that Richard Spencer types are assholes, even if they are incapable of applying nuance and seeing that there is a huge gap between the Left and Right on this issue.
 

BunnyBear

Member
The insinuation in this post is insane. I'm white as fuck, punch all the damn Nazis you can. Don't use the broad brush though.

Agreed, I'm almost translucent and I believe all these cunts deserve to be knocked out for their insane views.

I also conflicted about it all. I don't really condone the punch but I'm not upset it happened. It's complex...

Don't generalise!
 
Wow, I'm reading some of the weakest shit ITT that I've ever read on a forum. Some of you seriously need to adjust your views on the world and its issues.

Are some people that naïve to think that it's wrong to punch a Nazi when he's so egregiously spreading his hate and idiocy to people of various races and backgrounds who haven't done anything to him? If anything, people ought to be mad at his attempt to spread ideology and hate, yet we're focusing on how wrong it was for the guy to punch the neurons out of him? Seriously, fuck off and learn how the real world operates.

From the annals of human history all the way down to the way you handle situations, sometimes you will need to be violent in order to counter the injustice that you face from time to time. It would be nice to convince people of the errors of their ways through rational discussions, but we don't live in a cartoony idealistic world. People are stubborn, refuse to admit they're wrong, and have no qualms treating the "other" as "inferior."

That being said, I have absolutely no problem that the shithead got the shit knocked out of him. That's what we should be looking up to, not doing stupid mental gymnastics about bothsidesisms, whataboutisms, "violence r bad!"
 

Vagabundo

Member
"The more our adversaries believe they can obstruct our development by employing a degree of terror that is characteristic of their nature, the more they encourage it. Nietzsche said that a blow which does not kill a strong man only makes him stronger, and his words are confirmed a thousand times. Every blow strengthens our defiance, every persecution reinforces our single-minded determination, and the elements that do fall are good riddance to the movement."

-Adolph Hitler


"Love is the only way to grasp another human being in the innermost core of his personality. No one can become fully aware of the very essence of another human being unless he loves him. By his love he is enabled to see the essential traits and features in the beloved person; and even more, he sees that which is potential in him, which is not yet actualized but yet ought to be actualized. Furthermore, by his love, the loving person enables the beloved person to actualize these potentialities. By making him aware of what he can be and of what he should become, he makes these potentialities come true."

-Viktor E Frankl

I wish it was as simple as just punching the problem away. Or putting a bullet in it. I do not condone acts of hate by choosing to not be violent, I condone those acts because of my indifference.

"Nip it in the bud",

-every gardener ever
 
This is true, but it at least holds the Nazis in contempt, even if "antifa sucks, too!" is also unfortunately tagged on the end. Again, my point is that the "Nazis are/could soon be" taking over panic is misplaced. Even if data suggest people are not ready for the radical racial enema America so desperately needs, they also basically accept that overt white supremacy of the Charlottesville variety is wrong and that Richard Spencer types are assholes, even if they are incapable of applying nuance and seeing that there is a huge gap between the Left and Right on this issue.

No, that's actually the exact situation that led to the Nazis taking over in the 40s. Most of Germany didn't support the Nazis, but they also didn't give enough of a shit to actively try and stop them, just like most of America doesn't support Trump -- and yet here we are.
 

Saya

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No, that's actually the exact situation that led to the Nazis taking over in the 40s. Most of Germany didn't support the Nazis, but they also didn't give enough of a shit to actively try and stop them.

This is a pretty facile view of Weimar Germany vis a vis 2017 America. Trump can't even take money away from sanctuary cities at this point, let alone propose anything more drastic, and significantly less of 2017 America is alt-right than were Nazis in Germany.
 
I thought nazis were catholic though.
Hitler hated catholic religion that he saw as an enemy to his authority and also a weak religion being all love.

He had a hard on for Islam though while still hating on brown people thinking that the world would be ruled by Muslim aryan had the battle of tour be won by the caliphate.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
This is true, but it at least holds the Nazis in contempt, even if "antifa sucks, too!" is also unfortunately tagged on the end. Again, my point is that the "Nazis are/could soon be" taking over panic is misplaced. Even if data suggest people are not ready for the radical racial enema America so desperately needs, they also basically accept that overt white supremacy of the Charlottesville variety is wrong and that Richard Spencer types are assholes, even if they are incapable of applying nuance and seeing that there is a huge gap between the Left and Right on this issue.
It'a not that Nazi's are currently running the place, it's with Trump you actually dodged a bullet inspite of how horrendous he's been for the country. If he was even the slightest bit competent just the smallest bit, the amount of sinister shit he'd be able to get up to is terrifying. The US has become a breeding ground for this sort of ideology. Almost 50% voted for the shit show that is Trump. If Hitler ran for office when Trump did I cannot honestly say with any sort of belief that he'd probably lose that's how fucked things have become.
 

Tagyhag

Member
"The more our adversaries believe they can obstruct our development by employing a degree of terror that is characteristic of their nature, the more they encourage it. Nietzsche said that a blow which does not kill a strong man only makes him stronger, and his words are confirmed a thousand times. Every blow strengthens our defiance, every persecution reinforces our single-minded determination, and the elements that do fall are good riddance to the movement.”

-Adolph Hitler


"Love is the only way to grasp another human being in the innermost core of his personality. No one can become fully aware of the very essence of another human being unless he loves him. By his love he is enabled to see the essential traits and features in the beloved person; and even more, he sees that which is potential in him, which is not yet actualized but yet ought to be actualized. Furthermore, by his love, the loving person enables the beloved person to actualize these potentialities. By making him aware of what he can be and of what he should become, he makes these potentialities come true."

-Viktor E Frankl

I wish it was as simple as just punching the problem away. Or putting a bullet in it. I do not condone acts of hate by choosing to not be violent, I condone those acts because of my indifference.

Could you please explain how we would have won WW2 without any fighting of any kind?

Because right now you sound like Chamberlain to me.
 

Eylos

Banned
I just readed on Facebook a guy comparing BLM to nazism that they are the same and want racial superiority.
And a bunch talking that communists should die or arrested.
Yeah, after reading this my Hope on humanity is low Now. And i'm more Glad by the punch.
 

Siegcram

Member
The concern for the physical well-being of flag-bearing nazis on this self-proclaimed liberal forum will never cease to amaze me.
 

Hesh

Member
Read up on the sociology of how a people can get conditioned for mass killing. They are normal people who slowly become approving of and used to mass killing.

Jonathan Glover's Humanity is a relatively easy read and points out commonalities in the Armenian genocide, the Holocaust, Stalin and Mao's massacres, the Khmer Rouge, the Balkans, and the Rwandan conflict.

You're no doubt a better person than any of those who took part in those atrocities, but that's a good bit of luck of not being born into those societies. That doesn't mean you aren't righteous, just that being righteous has a lot to do with luck.

This slippery slope bullshit is getting real tiring. I can't even discern at this point if you're actually looking to debate a point but are woefully inept at avoiding logical pratfalls or if you're just being factitious and are trying to evoke passionate responses from people that aren't going to defend a Nazi (i.e. "shitposting").
 
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