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Art From Cancelled Halo Wars 3 Pitch Released (Space Battles, X-COM Style Base)
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Who would have thought that Neogaf was almost entirely ignorant to how games are made!
Wars 2 is great and if you liked the first, you should enjoy the second. Still playing it and the support has been great.
superNESjoe
Member
HW1 played great on console. The problem has more to do with the marketing and mis-management of the franchise than it does trying to sell an RTS on console. The game is also available on PC (although not Steam).
If we're actually looking at the context of the thread topic and not just throwing mud, Halo Wars 2, six months of post-release content, and now the new flood story campaign and co-op expansion released in 2017. Awakening the Nightmare released less than a month ago.
Neither did the first one. That said, Halo Wars is the best selling RTS game on consoles and nothing else comes close.
LukasTaves
Member
Most likely not:
If you have multiple proposals/pitch one gets picked and the other are cancelled XD
Since they are pitching HW3 it's very likely Ms gave them a go.
Besides the MCC, how exactly?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
People and game journalists forgot it came out. Hardly any gaming podcast talked about it. It bombed hard.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Does anybody remember the "why devs aren't more transparent" article and associated thread?
The responses in here are why. It's not "oh wow, that looks cool, shame it's not coming" it's "FUCK MICROSOFT canceling everything those utter incompetents!"
You're not entitled to this stuff.
The responses in here are why. It's not "oh wow, that looks cool, shame it's not coming" it's "FUCK MICROSOFT canceling everything those utter incompetents!"
You're not entitled to this stuff.
InquisitorAles
Member
Thread title is misleading, if i read OP correctly that was original pitch for Halo Wars 2 but MS rejected it, and now devs trying to push this pitch again.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Halo Wars 2 was baffling. Putting out Halo Wars 1 a few months before 2, was even more baffling. Why buy 2,when 1 is pretty much the same, and cheaper?
It also needed a total war campaign map. Something unique.
It also needed a total war campaign map. Something unique.
The post he quoted gave an example, don't try this Jem.
Christocolus
Member
Looks nice. Hope we get space battles in the next mainline Halo game.
I have no idea who was asking for Halo Wars 2 in the first place when the first game is like...an aggressively mediocre strategy game. And there was no reason to believe that a sequel wouldn't be the same.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Not making side games doesn't automatically mean they're mishandling the franchise.
The Pet of the Month
Member
Because it was fun.
What? One was a remaster, the other was a sequel.
The remaster was even included with the ultimate edition of 2, and those are the people who got access to the remaster early.
Also lol at pretty much the same.
LordBaztion
Member
I don't think even space battles would have work to make Halo Wars more appealing.
Anyway, hopefully it becomes dlc at some point.
Anyway, hopefully it becomes dlc at some point.
Laieon
Member
First was pretty fun and a good console RTS. Still sad it's the last thing Ensemble ever did, but I enjoyed it.
I think they're done with Wars 2. They just released the expansion and I think mentioned that's all there is. Just possible balance updates left.
dancrane212
Member
potatohead
Member
Reminds me of that star wars game
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Yep. Halo 2 is in my Top Five games of all time. I put thousands of hours into it on the early days of Live. And I think Halo CE has the best FPS campaign ever.
Three was great, too. Didn't care for Reach multiplayer - which was a shame because that's why I loved Halo so much - but it's SP was still fantastic, even without Chief. But ever since? Less and less and less enthusiasm. I haven't touched Halo 5 since month after it came out
Would love for Halo 6 to pull me back in - but I highly doubt it will.Happen to have a link directly to that post?
What you have in the OP only links to the pictures with the following description:
TC McQueen
Member
Give me Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock space combat, XCOM style ground combat, and this sort of ship management and Microsoft would get me to buy a Halo game for the first time since Halo 3 came out.
If it's on PC with mod support, I might even preorder the Steam version.
If it's on PC with mod support, I might even preorder the Steam version.
dancrane212
Member
All reference to Halo Wars 3 on that page was removed a little while after this thread was posted. What I have in the OP is the original text.
LordBaztion
Member
too bad but, honestly, space battles would have require to rethink the formula because just adding would be boring due to the lack of terrain.
Overall, if they want to reintroduce halo wars at some point and want it to be more mainstream appealing it needs to rethink it's formula to somethin that is visually fresh.
The link to the artists work, which you posted explicit states it was work done for Halo Wars 2
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/e6mDY
Lord of Castamere
Member
From a multiplayer standpoint it was. There were some small core changes, like adding the convoluted godawful leader power system, oh and the microtransaction laddled blitz mode, but I don't think there was enough to justify itself as a sequel, and apparently, the rest of the world felt the same. I didn't touch SP, because I don't care about SP modes in Rts's.
dancrane212
Member
The link to the artists work, which you posted explicit states it was work done for Halo Wars 2
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/e6mDY
The page used to have that info about Wars 3. The comments on the artist's page refer to that as well.
Links?
Screenshots?
Because all of the things you have linked to all say Halo Wars 2
RedSparrows
Member
There were plenty of changes to justify its sequel status and the leader powers are far better handled than in HW1 (except in SP where you need to bait them out the AI a fair bit). Convoluted? Wut.
This thread, sheesh. HW2 sells poorly because people hate lore plus simultaenously nobody cares about RTSs on console plus MS cancel shit too much plus why bother even releasing a niche game.
What do you guys actually want?
HW2 is fun. Space battles would be cool.
Gai Murakumo
Member
If Microsoft decides to use ideas (such as space battles) from this pitch later on in a Halo Wars 3 or another Halo game of some kind that would be awesome.
C'mon man you know why.
Halo 4, MCC, and Halo 5 have all done damage to general enthusiasm around the franchise.
Im not sure what that has to do with Halo Wars 3, or why the "cancellation" of a game that hadn't passed the "pitch" stage is pertinent though.
Complicated
Banned
Pretty cool that Microsoft allowed this to be shown. I wonder about another Halo Wars. Even the people I know that loved the first one completely tuned out 2. It would definitely need something different like an XCOM tactics angle rather than a straight RTS, I think.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Jesus man chill
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.artstation.com/artwork/e6mDY
If it's not showing. View the source.
It was scrapped for Mega Blocks: Halo of course!
Where exactly?
Unless you mean "they're struggling to even push the main entries" which is an incredibly vague and highly debatable point.
SuperBanana
Banned
OMG X-com style Halo? MS plz...This looks way more interesting.
Xbox seemed to have just given up in their games department. I haven't used my XB1 in months.
Xbox seemed to have just given up in their games department. I haven't used my XB1 in months.
When it comes to halo, no evidence is needed and general opinions are enough to say something is dead
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Mainline on continual decline, also going the wrong direction with them(Osiris team for example).
should definitely waited a bit for Halo 4
(I say all this and I actually liked Halo 4 a lot)
Had a decent side thing like ODST but instead of refining that idea they decided to let Halo 5's build up screw one of the best parts of ODST right up.
Even the books were run into the ground.
And then just the franchise as a whole could be done more with without having to keep doing more mainline game.
Even the live action stuff.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
If the pc version didn't use their shit ass storefront instead of using Steam, they probably would have made some money on the sequel.