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PBY

Banned
No thanks. GAF will get back to normal, the vocal minority of members creating ResetEra seem to be most of the same lot who made OT so cancerous.

There's so much of this coded bullshit in this thread.

You clearly just want the people who made this place great for marginalized groups gone so you can spew some dumb red pill bullshit.
 
No thanks. GAF will get back to normal, the vocal minority of members creating ResetEra seem to be most of the same lot who made OT so cancerous.

You've honestly seen the comments being permitted in here and don't think this is making the site way more toxic?

Go ahead, tell me what these 'posters' were like. None of you have in your responses to me, after all.
 

John Wick

Member
Per Evilore, I won't claim I know the facts and I've always been a huge proponent of innocent until proven guilty so it would be hypocritical of me to condemn him for claims that may be baseless. If they do turn out to be true, then I will blacklist this site as long as he is a part of it and have nothing but disdain for him because on top of everything that he has done, he would of then lied to his community as well. However as of now, there is no proof and I'll hold to visiting and posting here because its still one of the best gaming communities despite the minority of asshats that have given it a bad name...

I think the fact that so many journalists and gaming personalities, along with their audience, took the opportunity to celebrate the possible demise of NEOGAF speaks to something. Its a hard pill to swallow but there was some serious hive-mind mentality that would take over at times. You have your intolerant right and then you have your extreme intolerant left and the latter was in full force here, shutting down anyone that dare thought outside that hive-mind and labeling that person as a nazi, racist, whatever.

That being said, the gaming discussions on here are second to none and I think 90% of the NEOGAF community are good people with good intentions that just want to discuss games and have civil discussions about everything from movies to politics. Maybe some self-reflecting is due here though because if you have ever been someone that is part of the group that the rest of the gaming community seems to loathe, think about the effects of your words and if its simply to make you feel better to shout someone down for not seeing things the same way you do, then is it really worth saying? Its only going to harden people's resolve with the opposite stance as you.

I don't know if Neogaf will live on but if it does then we should take this as a lesson learned

100% agree
I came here for the gaming discussion. Not interested in any of the other stuff
 

Llyranor

Member
I'm all for women being protected from sexual harassment and abuse. But I just don't understand why would she have a physical relationship with someone she claims sexually harassed her??? Why??? Something doesn't add up in this story.
Why is it whenever a woman makes an allegation it's instantly accepted that the male is guilty? Why? It's guilty until proven innocent when it comes to men but the other way round for women
It's not impossible, but it does happen, but it's still really weird. If it was just the accusation and EL's past history, I would have been all for a good dogpile. But in this case, there's enough doubt that I can only withhold judgement. It's possible she exaggerated the event. It's possible it happened exactly as is. But with what we know right now, I can't pass a verdict.
 

the1npc

Member
There's so much of this coded bullshit in this thread.

You clearly just want the people who made this place great for marginalized groups gone so you can spew some dumb red pill bullshit.

Yep. Ive read lots of this thread and theres lots of concerning posts that wouldnt fly a week ago
 

Mr. Largehands

Neo Member
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ExVicis

Member
what GGers
what the fuck are you talking about
Read the thread the source for that garbage story about revenge porn was posted. Or don't. Either way I'm more or less fine leaving this discussion alone. It's pretty clear you're a person who had bad things happened in her life but chose to exploit it for arguments in the worst possible way and I don't want to dignify that any further with replies.
 

Krev

Unconfirmed Member
This statement was sad to read. Aside from the flat out denial of the sexual assault without EviLore mentioning his own version of what happened (which is a bit of a red flag to me), I'm concerned about the hints of cracking down on NeoGAF's liberal slant. That was the entire reason why I joined this site. Having a liberal status quo goes against the grain of gaming culture, so it was an amazing feat that this forum was able to maintain that for so long. But it looks like EviLore and the new mod team don't want anything to do with that anymore.
It's what Evilore stood for. Remember turning the logo rainbow? It's obvious that the liberal politics were cultivated by Evilore and it's hilariously hypocritical of him to turn his back on them now that they're biting him on the ass.
 
No thanks. GAF will get back to normal, the vocal minority of members creating ResetEra seem to be most of the same lot who made OT so cancerous.

It's sad knowing a site for its anti-GG, anti-sexism stances is totally cool with sexual abuse. This site is just as bad or worse than GamerGate now.
 
It's what Evilore stood for. Remember turning the logo rainbow? It's obvious that the liberal politics were cultivated by Evilore and it's hilariously hypocritical of him to turn his back on them now that they're biting him on the ass.

No greater way for GAF to die than a heel turn to the alt right
 
Read the thread the source for that garbage story about revenge porn was posted. Or don't. Either way I'm more or less fine leaving this discussion alone. It's pretty clear you're a person who had bad things happened in her life but chose to exploit it for arguments in the worst possible way and I don't want to dignify that any further with replies.

You asked why I wanted to know more, I answered honestly. I'm not ashamed of what happened to me and I'm not using it as an argument. I'm just telling the truth.
 

Anarion07

Member
Off-topic was no-where near as 'bad' as people make it sound.

I guess it highly depends on the threads you went to.
I had the same opinion as you. But seeing all these account-suicides now by people I don't remember, I guess they just had different interests than you and me.
 
Yeah like the Avengers, if the Avengers only fought to forcibly shut anyone up that offers a different opinion.

Correction, shutting anyone up who had horrible racist/sexist/transphobic opinions

Which just happen to coincide with conservatives in general because shockingly that's what conservatives believe in and vote for

Stop pretending politics is just politics and doesn't interact with gaming. Gaming is highly political, media in general is political.
 
Bingo. They key to a better society was, is and will always be great education and a stable financial environment only leftist economic policies can provide. Screaming at anyone who disagrees with you and calling him a Nazi not only doesn't solve the problem but in fact makes it much worse.

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that society has formed into these two tribal factions factions, I just wish for the sake of accuracy this faction wouldn't pretend to call itself liberal or left wing. It's a tribe and nothing more, and if you disagree with any detail of that tribes world view then you are by definition a member of the other tribe, the alt-right. Any existence of debate outside of that dichotomy is totally alien to them.

In fact, if you even make an argument they don't understand, which happens worryingly often for a group of people who claim to be so deeply politically aware, then that alone is enough to brand you heretical.
 
Dont use the dumb word SJW man.

It makes you look like a tool.

It really doesn't. Most people use the term for convenience to brand a very vocal minority of people who generate hysteria of issues that do not warrant hysteria. Like it or not that term exists and perfectly suits a sub-section of people who act in a parochial and condescending manner to people who usually don't deserve to be treated that way at all. Usually someone asking a question or going slightly against the grain. Please note - most people who are victims of shitty SJW behaviour are other liberals.

Also don't tell people what they look like subjectively. It's not cool.
 
I posted this earlier, but it was the last post of a page, so I'm not sure if people saw it.

How would you guys feel about a Hall of Infamy thread? People are always angered at being banned or suspended without any reason or any real justification. The thread is where mods that ban a user have to post the ban, the evidence and why.

I've seen people swear they banned for no reason, only to look up their last posts and see that the ban was entirely justified.

It adds the transparency we were and are currently missing.
 

MrKaepora

Member
So nuking OT is the solution for the ordeal of this past week...The likes of Stalin and Hitler would be proud.

How is it that a site who pride itself of being democratic, civilised and liberal can be ok with this situation? Can't people see the hypocrisie of it? Suddenly the mob that burned witches without listening to their version of the story is the same mob that is waiting for all the facts.

Well I don't know all the facts but the fact that Evilore doesn't deny the story is pretty telling and after reading this interview with the two...


https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...ct-allegations-rocking-neogafs-last-48-hoursd

...I think you guys have some issues and should talk about it or at least have your lawyers talk about it.

For anyone who thinks that things will be alright and everything will be the same...they won't. The admin should have passed the administration of the forum to someone else until everything was cleared up, the amirox situation should have been dealt a long time ago when the individual in question robbed money from some users to buy drugs. I don't know how the hell amirox managed to maintain his account after that strike one and Evilore telling people that he didn't know amirox's real name, when he clearly did, while banning members for just mentioning the situation was pretty shitty.

It's a shame that the actions of an individual tainted and destroyed this community and I pity the individuals that treated the forum as a second home and use it as a friend who listened.
 

ExVicis

Member
No thanks. GAF will get back to normal, the vocal minority of members creating ResetEra seem to be most of the same lot who made OT so cancerous.
All the toxic parts of OT and all the alt-right and 4chan trolls? Man that place is going to be a hellhole for a couple weeks. I really hope they get that stuff handled fast or it's going to have a hard time.

So nuking OT is the solution for the ordeal of this past week...The likes of Stalin and Hitler would be proud.
It's really fucking shitty but 'cmon. Stalin and Hitler wouldn't give a fuck about NeoGAF.
 
Correction, shutting anyone up who had horrible racist/sexist/transphobic opinions

Which just happen to coincide with conservatives in general because shockingly that's what conservatives believe in and vote for


Stop pretending politics is just politics and doesn't interact with gaming. Gaming is highly political, media in general is political.
Buahaahahaha don't make me laugh.
 

Sordid

Member
I like how you brush it under the carpet: "One thing".

I'm not brushing anything under the carpet, you mentioned one thing in that post so I said 'one thing'.

I don't know what went down between these 2 but you seem desperate to use anything to discredit this girl while handwaving away anything negative about his past.

Unless you've been sexually harassed yourself you can't say how people should react to it/conduct relationships afterwards... but then again even if you have been sexually harassed before people react to things differently so I don't know why you're so 'certain' of the rarity of how things play out afterwards.
 

Old Empire.

Member
I believe him as she had a sexual relationship with him later after the shower incident. She was not forced into having a relationship with him.If she truly felt disgusted by this incident she would have ran as far away from him as she could. She just looking for attention.
 

Mahadev

Member
not up yet, follow twitter.com/reseteraforum for more info later



Offer an opinion right now that you felt you couldn't before. Go ahead, no need to be a coward.


PoliGAF was a toxic shithole that leaked constantly in the rest of the forum full of conspiracy theorists, extremely rude people and fanatics who despised real debate.
 

The Pope

Member
Half of the threads were about Trump and half of the posts in those threads were 'Fuck Trump'. I was not really a fan of GAF OT, except for FootyGAF which was pretty awesome.
I don't know, he is pretty indefensible. I think it also important to emphasize that there are idiots on the left. However there were pretty brilliant posters whom certainly have helped me become a more progressive person.
 
PoliGAF was a toxic shithole that leaked constantly in the rest of the forum full of conspiracy theorists, extremely rude people and fanatics who despised real debate.

Congrats, if poligaf was still up and you sourced some of what you're claiming, you wouldn't have been banned.

So your newfound 'freedom' isn't even real. Amazing.
 
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