I don't think it's crazy to expect it at all. The PS4 will certainly have BT capability, so they would deliberately have to block DS3s.
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Eurogamer/CVG Rumor: Sony to have new controller for PS4; CVG: PS4 unveiling in weeks
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I don't think it's crazy to expect it at all. The PS4 will certainly have BT capability, so they would deliberately have to block DS3s.
Sure. First picture will be thumbsticks in normal position, and the second is the thumbsticks pressed all the way towards each other.
Syphon Filter
Member
Hopefully it is true. dualshock is terrible due to small handles,bad triggers and loose analogs.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I'll give you the nonexistent triggers, but the handles are fine for me and the loose analogs make it easier to play Metal Gear Solid- sneaking around and what not.
I wouldn't panic like that. I agree that the Wii-mote focus was bleh, but I doubt Sony will go down that road. If tthat was the case, they would've pushed Move a lot harder.
Ha ha. So we've reached this stage of the ds v x360 pad debate.
I have a feeling the ergonomic design of the x360 makes people who find it comfortable resort to making up for everything else that is not so good in the pad.
Rechargeable batteries, crappy d-pad, crappy buttons quality overall; and heck somehow even the asymmetric design is inherently better somehow.
I like the rationalisation that the dpad and right analogue should be switched because the games that require the dpad have been relegated below dual analog games (namely fps/tps) popularity wise. By that logic, why hasn't the face buttons changed position too? Surely the same applies with the other more important analogue stick: the look/aim one?
It makes no real sense to have one hand top left, the other bottom right. But I guess, make people feel comfortable, and everything else falls into place.
In my opinion, the x360 control pad is inferior for
driving games
fighting games
shmups
And I guess anything that requires keyboard and mouse.
Though to be fair, the x360 pad is now seemingly the default control pad scheme on the pc, and that's a decent achievement. And so people keep saying it's a perfect controller. Love or hate the DS, but x360 controller is here to stay.
I have a feeling the ergonomic design of the x360 makes people who find it comfortable resort to making up for everything else that is not so good in the pad.
Rechargeable batteries, crappy d-pad, crappy buttons quality overall; and heck somehow even the asymmetric design is inherently better somehow.
I like the rationalisation that the dpad and right analogue should be switched because the games that require the dpad have been relegated below dual analog games (namely fps/tps) popularity wise. By that logic, why hasn't the face buttons changed position too? Surely the same applies with the other more important analogue stick: the look/aim one?
It makes no real sense to have one hand top left, the other bottom right. But I guess, make people feel comfortable, and everything else falls into place.
In my opinion, the x360 control pad is inferior for
driving games
fighting games
shmups
And I guess anything that requires keyboard and mouse.
Though to be fair, the x360 pad is now seemingly the default control pad scheme on the pc, and that's a decent achievement. And so people keep saying it's a perfect controller. Love or hate the DS, but x360 controller is here to stay.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
If they really are sticking a screen on there, they might need to move them out of the way as was necessary with the Wii U Gamepad.Striek said:
For a short while it was thought it would be trouble when we saw that Sony had put motion controls into its PS3 controller; but the price announcement a few minutes later bounced things back.DXB-KNIGHT said:
Really it would make for an interesting situation. From a processing hardware point of view PlayStation/Xbox multiplatform games would work best, but from a control standpoint PlayStation/Wii ones might.
The Amish don't play anything that goes beyond a trackball and a quarter slot.IHaveIce said:
Have you used a Wii U GamePad at all? I imagine you haven't because it's a very competent controller for standard games with the additional features of a touch screen. Sony going that route would not be silly from a pure feature standpoint. Cost however is another thing. It will increase cost so something will have to give. Retail price, losses Sony take or raw specs.
As A Wii U owner if they do a touchscreen controller that can only increase chances of ports from Orbis.
Sure. First picture will be thumbsticks in normal position, and the second is the thumbsticks pressed all the way towards each other.
Underside, please. My point of confusion is what the hell you're doing with your fingers; some people claim that you should use them to lightly support the silly undersized handles, but some people claim to just wrap their fingers around and try to grip the thing? I dunno.
Vol5
Member
....the dualshock offers way more precision than any other controller imo. They are a touch loose though. If Sony can firm them up while keeping the precision, then great.
Welcome to the world of Wii U owners. Look after it like it's your child.
Captain Tuttle
Member
That's all they need to do. Save the R&D money.
Duxxy3
Member
It is fine while using the L1/R1 buttons. It's when you have to use the triggers that the grip becomes awkward.
This gif is so ridiculous. The person is obviously trying to make it seem ridiculous to hold to the DS3 when you can hold it comfortably. I have pretty large hands and can palm a basketball but use a DS just fine.
Monumental
Banned
The fuck? I would hope that we're intelligent enough to know that someone is sharing their own opinion and don't have to put "IN MY OPINION" in every one of their posts.
Although, I bet that the 360 controller would win hands down in an objective, controlled ergonomics test. Too bad we have no way of really finding out.
If I had to throw my hat in the ring with a crazy guess I'd probably say they'll go with pretty much a mini Vita for a controller, though I'd much rather they stick with a more comfortable DualShock type affair - with no touchscreen shenanigans.
I've no idea what Sony have in mind, but tbh CVG don't either. They are garbage who print anything. They were a damn good magazine read in the late 80's right through to towards the end of the PS1 era. Now? A crappy website that runs any old crap hype and rumour style articles from elsewhere ('teh PS4 has more graphics than 720') and then runs weekly right-on editorials decrying gamers for getting swept up in hype and rumours.
I've no idea what Sony have in mind, but tbh CVG don't either. They are garbage who print anything. They were a damn good magazine read in the late 80's right through to towards the end of the PS1 era. Now? A crappy website that runs any old crap hype and rumour style articles from elsewhere ('teh PS4 has more graphics than 720') and then runs weekly right-on editorials decrying gamers for getting swept up in hype and rumours.
Do your thumbs not collide on the joysticks? Every time mine do it hits my gag reflex.
Playing call of duty is like this for me
colliding thumbs? wut? I have big hands and i hate the DualShock but you are obviously holding it wrong
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I dislike Wii U more than the original Wii.
The controller is grotesque. Like I said, Sony goes that route I wont follow.
Tripolygon
Banned
The controller doesn't need to look like PS Vita, WiiU Pad or an iPad nor does it need to be used the same way as either of them. Navigating the OS will be miles better with the touchscreen and typing on a software keyboard will be miles better than using DPad or an external keyboard accessory.
Duxxy3
Member
If you're strafing to the right and turning to the left your thumbs will collide (if you're using the pads of your thumb and not just the tip).
Middle fingers are just resting on the back, and the other fingers are lightly gripping the grips.
yessssss. i enjoy the touchscreen capability on my wii u. it really seems like a necessary next step for traditional controllers. it doesn't have to be big either.
i am very excited! i always wished we had gotten the boomerang controller. as long as it retains the same capabilities as a dualshock 3 for backwards compatibility (ahem, nintendo!), then this is fine by me.
i am very excited! i always wished we had gotten the boomerang controller. as long as it retains the same capabilities as a dualshock 3 for backwards compatibility (ahem, nintendo!), then this is fine by me.
grimshawish
Banned
Posting pictures of the Dual Shock just make it clearer how horrific the design is.
Insane Metal
Member
No LCD screen in the controller, PLEASE. NO.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
WRONG THREAD LOL
KingJ2002
Member
it's gonna happen.
I welcome it... if screens on the controller is a standard next gen.. then we will see more titles that utilize the feature... rather than be a Wii U gimmick
It would be great if we had two thumbs and our pinky and ring fingers were fused into a flipper.
Captain Smoker
Member
lol
phosphor112
Banned
That's the joke.
Syphon Filter
Member
The precision is bad due to it moving so easily. on xbox you have more control due to it being tighter. Also the analogs are concave.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The new controller is the Vita...
Dion Blaster
Member
I really hope both controllers have the sticks up top. But I'm worried Sony cares more about how the controller looks than how it feels.
My insider said touchpad, not lcd screen in the other thread. Makes more sense and reduces costs. I don't think Sony is sold on having two screens for the user to focus on.
By the way the offset sticks on the 360 controller are not ergonomically right. They either need to be level, or the controller itself needs to be asymmetrical with a longer grip on the right side.
By the way the offset sticks on the 360 controller are not ergonomically right. They either need to be level, or the controller itself needs to be asymmetrical with a longer grip on the right side.
phosphor112
Banned
Dualshock is superior. It allows for "claw" when playing games. Playing any FPS? Need to push D pad but still want to keep thumbs on sticks? BAM CLAW!
Can't do that with 360 controller.
Can't do that with 360 controller.
Jack Scofield
Member
Forcing players to use a controller with a screen may finally make me stop playing video games. Absolutely ridiculous.
Baconsammy
Banned
Thank god. Get rid of that god-awful DS design. I'm still hoping they go for the split controller, but anything is better over what they have now. Also, take the dpads off the millions of unsold Vitas and put them to good use.