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South AfricaI'm not sure what way to read that.
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Just copying what others have tried or done similarly. Luckily I'm not crazy enough to believe that this represents all of Israel's people.
South AfricaI'm not sure what way to read that.
It is a puerile point, but I think they meant they were imitating what they saw, is that not what the phrase refers too?
South Africa
Germany
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Just copying what others have tried or done similarly. Luckily I'm not crazy enough to believe that this represents all of Israel's people.
Didn't Sweden also had an eugenics program till the seventies?
.You do realize this is Israel we're talking about here, right?
The west is too afraid to call them out with fear of being labeled a racist or anti-semite.
South Africa
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Just copying what others have tried or done similarly. Luckily I'm not crazy enough to believe that this represents all of Israel's people.
For a country that likes to talk about human rights so much, this is extremely inhuman and disgusting, borderline Nazi.
Still a bit stupid to say considering other "civilized" countries were doing it too. What matters is if they're still doing it or not and they own up to their past. If they've moved on then they're in their right to criticize others for doing what they used to do. Unless there's some hidden agenda, of course.
For a country that likes to talk about human rights so much, this is extremely inhuman and disgusting, borderline Nazi.
For example, in 1972, United States Senate committee testimony brought to light that at least 2,000 involuntary sterilizations had been performed on poor black women without their consent or knowledge. An investigation revealed that the surgeries were all performed in the South, and were all performed on black welfare mothers with multiple children. Testimony revealed that many of these women were threatened with an end to their welfare benefits until they consented to sterilization.[56] These surgeries were instances of sterilization abuse, a term applied to any sterilization performed without the consent or knowledge of the recipient, or in which the recipient is pressured into accepting the surgery. Because the funds used to carry out the surgeries came from the U.S. Office of Economic Opportunity, the sterilization abuse raised older suspicions, especially amongst the black community, that federal programs were underwriting eugenicists who wanted to impose their views about population quality on minorities and poor women.[25]
Native American women were also victims of sterilization abuse up into the 1970s.[57] The organization WARN (Women of All Red Nations) publicized that Native American women were threatened that, if they had more children, they would be denied welfare benefits. The Indian Health Service also repeatedly refused to deliver Native American babies until their mothers, in labor, consented to sterilization. Many Native American women unknowingly gave consent, since directions were not given in their native language. According to the General Accounting Office, an estimate of 3,406 Indian women were sterilized.[57] The General Accounting Office stated that the Indian Health Service had not followed the necessary regulations, and that the informed consent forms did not adhere to the standards set by the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW).[58]
It was borderline nazi when we did it too.
Of course it represents some part of the population, but not the whole and it's not an excuse to sit idly by either. Painting countries with a wide brush is a good way to generate fear and hatred on a scale that just leads to disaster.Hahah I often see this comment, what an easy way for the Israeli people to ignore the issue and blame someone else. How I see it is that Netanyahu and the rest of the government keep getting the support of the Israelis and that means they stand for what their country does.
Still a bit stupid to say considering other "civilized" countries were doing it too. What matters is if they're still doing it or not and they own up to their past. If they've moved on then they're in their right to criticize others for doing what they used to do. Unless there's some hidden agenda, of course.
I have no problem having Germany criticizing Israel even though they were literally cooking Jews in the 40's. Just like I'd have no problem with a future Israel telling others what to do when they finally clean up their act.
Nah, it was much like the West in the early 20th century. There were no concentration camps, no slave labor, no concentration. Just overbearing governments, thinking they knew best and imposing on minorities restrictions and human rights violations that would be unacceptable if imposed on the majority.
I'd say the same applies to Israel in this case.
Words like "nazi" are thrown around too easily.
Still a bit stupid to say considering other "civilized" countries were doing it too. What matters is if they're still doing it or not and they own up to their past.
Dat AIPAC money.Why does our (the US) Government support Israel so much?
Not surprised, as a state Israel is openly racist and fascist that commits war crimes on a regular basis never mind their disregard for human rights legislation.
Compleletly without morals.
.Most ironic country in the world.
Is the source reputable? Is there anything to confirm it?
While it wouldnt surprise me if it were true, it also wouldnt surprise me if it were bullshit as well. I remain skeptical until its validated by another news outlet.
You know they airlifted the Ethiopian Jews out of Ethiopia because they faced persecution by the Communist Ethiopian government right? Spent millions of dollars, feeding them, sheltering them etc. That's not really the act of an openly racist and fascist country. Not to say racism doesn't exist, it exists in every country, especially those run by white people with a black underclass.
In another racist, fascist act they also just elected a female Ethiopian Jew to the Knesset.
The Health Ministry Director General Prof. Ron Gamzu instructed “all gynecologists in the HMOs not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment.”
This was in response to a letter from Sharona Eliahu-Chai of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel.
Doesn't really sound like the response of Nazis to me.
The fact that anyone else did it absolutely does not mean anything. Because my neighbor is a killer, I should be a killer as well? What sort of reasoning is that? And let's not even get into the fact that they continued to do it even after the Holocaust.
BTW, the OP's news story is 3 years old:
Israel's treatment of Ethiopians 'racist'
Jonathan Cook
Jan 6, 2010
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/israels-treatment-of-ethiopians-racist
why would it be when an mp in the UK can forced to apologise for stating facts...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21216801
better to ignore the story than be labelled an anti-semite / racist.
BTW, the OP's news story is 3 years old:
Israel's treatment of Ethiopians 'racist'
Jonathan Cook
Jan 6, 2010
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/israels-treatment-of-ethiopians-racist
The health ministry was unavailable for comment. When first questioned about Depo Provera in June 2008, the health minister of the time, Yaacov Ben Yezri, said the high number of Ethiopians in Israel using the drug reflected a "cultural preference" for injections among Ethiopians. In fact, according to figures of the World Health Organisation, three-quarters of women in Ethiopia using birth control take the oral pill.
Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/worl...-treatment-of-ethiopians-racist#ixzz2JBkmbBDj
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Why does our (the US) Government support Israel so much?
BTW, the OP's news story is 3 years old:
Israel's treatment of Ethiopians 'racist'
Jonathan Cook
Jan 6, 2010
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/israels-treatment-of-ethiopians-racist
I'm confused - as awful as this story is, where in the text does it suggest that "Israel Admits Birth Control Program for Ethiopians"? That it's happening is not the same as an admission.
A government official has for the first time acknowledged the practice of injecting women of Ethiopian origin with the long-acting contraceptive Depo-Provera.
I'm confused - as awful as this story is, where in the text does it suggest that "Israel Admits Birth Control Program for Ethiopians"? That it's happening is not the same as an admission.
That's why it's labelled as background... The confirmation is from today.
Most ironic country in the world.
A government official has for the first time acknowledged the practice of injecting women of Ethiopian origin with the long-acting contraceptive Depo-Provera.
Health Ministry Director General Prof. Ron Gamzu has instructed the four health maintenance organizations to stop the practice as a matter of course.
The ministry and other state agencies had previously denied knowledge or responsibility for the practice, which was first reported five years ago.
Gamzu’s letter instructs all gynecologists in the HMOs "not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment.”
He also instructed physicians to avail themselves of translators if need be.
Gamzu’s letter came in response to a letter from Sharona Eliahu-Chai of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel, representing several women’s rights and Ethiopian immigrants’ groups. The letter demanded the injections cease immediately and that an investigation be launched into the practice.
About six weeks ago, on an Educational Television program journalist Gal Gabbay revealed the results of interviews with 35 Ethiopian immigrants. The women’s testimony could help explain the almost 50-percent decline over the past 10 years in the birth rate of Israel’s Ethiopian community. According to the program, while the women were still in transit camps in Ethiopia they were sometimes intimidated or threatened into taking the injection. “They told us they are inoculations,” said one of the women interviewed. “They told us people who frequently give birth suffer. We took it every three months. We said we didn’t want to.”
The link at the top is a different story where they do admit it, the one in quotes is background.
Put this article in the OP
Put this article in the OP, and take out the 2010 in brackets. This is new.
LOL!!! I'm going to hell for laughing. But yeah Israel is terrible for doing this.
I thought Haaretz / Debka / RT etc. were all propaganda fueled news outlets?
I agree, viewing such allegations with a healthy dose of skepticism is the best way to react to such stories.
Some of the other responses to this story are a little bit weird.
Is this actually even plausible? You are telling me that most Ethiopian women in Israel are getting a birth control injection without knowing it? What do they think the injection is for? And if such measures are administered under suspicious circumstances, why wouldn't they just sterilize them completely? It's entirely plausible that Ethiopian Jews do indeed face discrimination as does any minority population anywhere in the world, but the idea that there is some an organized effort to limit their birth rate without their consent is difficult to believe. In fact it reminds me of Islamist attacks on health care workers in Pakistan who are trying to eradicate polio by setting up vaccination programs there (the Islamists believe it's really a secret CIA program to sterilize Muslim children so naturally they respond with violence before finding any evidence to support their claims). Pakistan has one of the highest rates of polio in the world today because of this (along with Nigeria and Afghanistan, not surprisingly two other countries where Islamists have sway in the way the public perceives information).
This sounds like the type of believable lie that can persist with shocking frequency because of anti-semitic conspiracy theories that already persist among the general population (i.e. Jews control the media/banks/world/etc).
I'm not saying it's completely impossible but the truth of the matter is probably different than what it looks like to the conspiracy nuts and anti-semites among us.
Thank you so much for this post!