BadAss2961
Member
That sucks.
Every game of this kind where there's orb collecting and upgrades should have full NG+ and design the harder modes with it in mind.
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God of War: Ascension reviews
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Every game of this kind where there's orb collecting and upgrades should have full NG+ and design the harder modes with it in mind.
Agreed. Even if it doesn't give me everything from the very beginning at least let me keep the upgrades when I get the item in the normal progression.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
You can't earn trophies with New Game+, though :/
But having a chapter select will definitely help with certain ones...
But having a chapter select will definitely help with certain ones...
Hero of Canton
Member
Just watched Sessler's review, which is excellent. I agree with almost every word. He has exactly the same problems with the game that I did.
Hero of Canton
Member
I wasn't specifically talking about the trophy so much as his other observations, but yeah, I'm with him on this one. It's important to make the distinction that it's not the trophy name alone that's the problem, it's the trophy name in conjunction with the act you've just committed. As Sessler says, it's "borderline" in the first instance, and to then turn it into a cheap frathouse gag is enormously crass. It made me cringe, and I'd be utterly embarrassed to show it to any of my family.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Yeah, he said it's probably the most disturbing or gruesome thing he's seen in the series so far and that was before the Trophy popped up. Is this like American History X curb-stomp cringe worthy because it seems some are making it out to be that way.
Would you show your family the sex scene from GOW3? Or the parts where you tear people apart limb by limb?
l3lacklvlagic
Member
I find it funny how it's men as apposed to women that are so up in arms about a 3 word trophy title. It's ridiculous to get so upset over some silly joke, but to subtract a point in a game review over a trophy title is crazy.
How do you know that he "subtracted" a point because of that? Overall, he didn't seem too impressed with the game.
I don't know if he actually did or not but it apparently bothered him enough to place it under the list of cons for the game. You usually place things that subtracted from the game experience there.
Hero of Canton
Member
Well, no, but the point I'm making is that the violence on its own is less problematic - it's excessive, but it reflects the brutality of the mythology. If I was playing God of War III of an evening, say, and my wife was in the room I'm sure she'd comment on how violent it was, but those elements on their own aren't as bad.
Essentially that Trophy in that context is the game saying: "hey, you just beat a woman to death, but it's okay because bros before hoes! Up high, dawg!"
It treats a nasty, shocking act of violence as a joke. If you can't see why some people might consider that a little much, then that's kind of troubling.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Goddamnit - 78 on metacritic, never thought I'd see the day, SSM.
I'm still buying, and I'm still buying not doubt, but man, this is the mighty Santa Monica Studio here, what could have possibly happened here? Guess I'll find out.
I'm still buying, and I'm still buying not doubt, but man, this is the mighty Santa Monica Studio here, what could have possibly happened here? Guess I'll find out.
I can certainly understand it in isolation of everything else, but in the context of this particular game I don't have much trouble with it. Just like I didn't have a problem with most of Bulletstorm, for example, when the entire game was pretty offensive. I don't judge a game like GOW the same I would seeing a trophy like this in a game like Uncharted. If you don't know that the game is going to be overly vulgar and violent, then you probably haven't played GOW before.
thehypocrite
Member
Getting the game because of the multiplayer, I understand people being fixated on the single player part and considering it kind of pointless (Prequels always have that stigma), I also understand those offended with the trophy, however this is a violent game, in context the violence should make sense with Greek Mythology, I haven't played the game so I can't tell. However I do think that maybe the discussion could be better served if the focus is that GOWA is extremely violent and the violence in video games, Kratos does brutal stuff in all the games, but he's a equally ruthless against man/beast/everything, so it doesn't seem out of place to me, from what I can see.
HueyFreeman
Banned
lol come on, man. Homeric myth has some completely comic book moments of violence, they're in no way intended to be historically accurate - it's melodrama.
Violence being the only tiny filament that connects these games to Homer's rendition of Greece, they are similarly intended to be over the top - take it as such, don't mistake it as an attempt to be "historically accurate."
tiny raptor
Member
Troubling to who? You? Ok.
And what about the other trophies in the series treating "shocking acts of violence" as a joke? The series has always toyed with murder and sex, so it's strange to me to see people making a big deal out of it now when they had no issue with any of it in the past.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
Sweet Jesus. Sessler didn't lower the game score because of the trophy. He just said he thought the trophy was tasteless partnered with the action that unlocked it, and he clearly had a lot of other problems with the game that ended with it getting an "average" score. I personally do think it's notable that this complaint is coming from a guy who has, on numerous occasions, defended against attacks on video games regarding content and has openly stated he enjoys the "naughtiness" of the GoW series. At this point I'd say Sessler's demonstrated enough integrity and transparency to have the situation given some thought. Before anyone jumps on me, I'm not saying he's right, I'm just saying his opinion is notable.
It's fine to disagree, but losing your minds over a reviewer making a simple complaint seems silly. There's so much belittling and superfluous ":lol :lol :lol" going around, the discussion is borderline unreadable. I don't normally pay close attention to these review threads, so maybe this is all just par for the course.
It's fine to disagree, but losing your minds over a reviewer making a simple complaint seems silly. There's so much belittling and superfluous ":lol :lol :lol" going around, the discussion is borderline unreadable. I don't normally pay close attention to these review threads, so maybe this is all just par for the course.
HammerOfThor
Member
So I just watched Sessler's review and found out about the Bros Before Hos trophy. While I'm not offended or anything, that trophy name just seems sooooooo immature and unnecessary.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Just be lucky you missed Uncharted 3's 8/10 Carnival of Stupid
GhostOfLawlight
Banned
Watch as the same people who are outraged by the trophy have no problem with GTAV. I doubt they had problems with the "Dastardly" trophy in RDR either.
Vire
Member
GhostOfLawlight
Banned
I think you will find that it's the reverse - the reviewer lost his mind over a trophy name. A trophy name!
Yeah and it wont be playable at launch.
GhostOfLawlight
Banned
It can't be as bad as the Gerstmann reviews of the last 2 console Zelda games.
Sesslar is my fave game journalist, and as much as I love GOW, I feel confident in his complaints. I've felt a bit iffy on this one from the start. A lot of the decisions didn't go down well with me, from it being a prelude, to it not matching GOW3s spectacle, to not having alternative weapons, to a messier camera system and to the over focus on multiplayer. And you know what, Bros before Hos? Really... Come on now. Imo it does take it too close to that dumb frat esque humour Adam speaks of. Come on now Santa Monica. Also Todd Papp, good effort, but sounds like it's fallen short.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Quick ? to those have retail copies
Do you get a voucher for PSASBR Character Codes or is it "Disc Benefits"?
Do you realize if Sony allowed it, Insomniac's R&C would have racy euphemisms out of their ass (some still do =D)
All 4 One was at one time could have been called Bros before Foes
So yeah!
Do you get a voucher for PSASBR Character Codes or is it "Disc Benefits"?
Do you realize if Sony allowed it, Insomniac's R&C would have racy euphemisms out of their ass (some still do =D)
All 4 One was at one time could have been called Bros before Foes
So yeah!
Wait, who the hell takes God of War violence against mythological demigod SERIOUSLY?
it is a Joke. If it didnt then all of us would feel like mass murderes .
Robot Pants
Member
Cemented that junior status permanently.
tiny raptor
Member
Yep.
And because of Sessler making a big deal out of it, people are following suit. Suddenly, people who had no issue with any number of instances making jokes about violence in games are jumping on their high horses. If Sessler hadn't mentioned it, I doubt we'd ever have this discussion about the trophy (well, maybe, I guess -- but likely from those who were offended by stuff like that in the past).
Be consistent, people.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If there's a 7-8/10 for "Naughty God's latest magnum opus", there will be plenty of foolishness about.
Reading a lot of the reviews, besides the recurring theme of "been there, done that", the first half of the game gets criticized a bit, outside a big opening set piece, it's all kinda by the numbers. Funny, I felt similarly about GoW3, which after it's epic opening of all openings, felt the game just kinda settled into a meandering groove until that great Hades fight.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
Okay? I watched the review. If that's how he feels, so be it. A review is one person's opinions on a game. That's one of his opinions, so he put it in a review.
So do you disagree with his reasoning as to why the trophy's name and context is cheap?
Not agreeing with Sessler's opinion is fine, but responding to it by just saying how he shouldn't be outraged in the first place is an ineffectual stance.
God of War : Ascension |OT| Bros Before Hos
Venturebeat 8/10
http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/07/god-of-war-ascension-review/
http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/07/god-of-war-ascension-review/
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
The reviews are pretty much exactly what I was expecting.
And I really like Adam Sessler, but that trophy complaint...
And I really like Adam Sessler, but that trophy complaint...
gioGAF
Member
Reviews seem kind of low. I wonder if this is a case of series fatigue, haters hating or if the game is truly not where it should be. I'm really looking forward to playing the game.
However, I firmly believe that the addition of multiplayer to any single player game can do nothing but damage the single player experience. Resources HAVE to be committed to multiplayer, resources that could have been put into the single player game if there was no multiplayer.
There better not be any online trophies! I HATE them!
However, I firmly believe that the addition of multiplayer to any single player game can do nothing but damage the single player experience. Resources HAVE to be committed to multiplayer, resources that could have been put into the single player game if there was no multiplayer.
There better not be any online trophies! I HATE them!
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Because that is not exception but has been the rule in god of war series
What part of this is NOT cheap?
I think the name is stupid, juvenile, and eyeroll worthy. On its face I don't understand the outrage though. I'll have to see if context makes it more objectionable, not that I particularly care if a handful of people find a dumb name offensive.
And the Hercules face tenderizing. That one got me.
Eyeroll-worthy is what it seems to me. I just find it hard to comprehend the sheer anger it evoked in Sessler.
GhostOfLawlight
Banned
Didn't Zelda:TP get 8.8? So, not really 7-8/10.
I'm indifferent to it to be honest. He did give the game a 3/5 and the only noteworthy dislike that he had was the trophy name. He sort of back-pedalled and quickly scrapped together some nonsensical negatives afterwards but it says a lot. Let's also not forget his Sly 4 review. 2/5 for being more Sly? Yeah....
GhostOfLawlight
Banned
Addition of MP can do nothing but damage the single player experience? Ever heard of a small game called Uncharted 2?
As for the fatigue point, should that really be a reason to dock points from a game? If yes, why isn't that rule applied to the yearly sports franchise, the 2D Marios or the CoDs?
Kratos alway seems to rustle peoples jimmies with his actions. I still love him though, one of the most colourful characters Sony produced. From what I hear SSM has succeeded in making Kratos more human so I can't wait to see how the story unfolds but definitely will be playing on hard for added challenge.