Kazuma Kiryu
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44
Creative Director
Microsoft Game Studios
February 2012 Present (1 year 3 months)Redmond
Unannounced.
yeah, i'm sure he knows NOTHING about the durango.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44
Creative Director
Microsoft Game Studios
February 2012 Present (1 year 3 months)Redmond
Unannounced.
yeah, i'm sure he knows NOTHING about the durango.
statham
Member
true, their is no such thing as a curse. Some bad moves maybe, but too early to tell if this is a bad move or not. We are definitely moving to a always connected world.
It also seems MS is willing to lose in certain areas of the world for some reason, we will see why soon.
ill wait and see. wait for exclusives or other new services and then finally ill buy the same console that my friends are buying. which will most likely be the one that plays halo. you can guess which one that is.
The fucking forest is burning down at this rate.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
This guy is MS creative director? He seems like a real asshole.
The real reason is that vacuum cleaners require power to work and cell phones require connection to function whereas games do not need internet to function as designed.
No I won't be. You're being as presumptive as the asshole on Twitter.
If the claims of MS making Durango an entertainment hub, I'm sure as shit that what developers as a whole really think doesn't matter. They're probably more concerned on getting other realms of entertainment and hooking that as the epicenter to their product, as games will surely suffer from this decision.
Tallshortman
Member
Whens the last time Microsoft studios put out something creative, viva pinata?
Glorified G
Member
If ms pooped in a cardboard box and wrote durango on it you would still probably buy it.
Aww he only lasted at the company for 1 year.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Well Live is the systems online infrustructure
EightBitNate
Member
xVac incoming
Holy shit, wasn't expecting it so soon
Holy shit, wasn't expecting it so soon
yea ok what if your internet goes out? can't even clean your house
Baconsammy
Banned
Then Sony loses again. They need America for the PS4 to be the success they need it to be.
Some don't, or at the very least they get slow and unreliable internet.
This is an asinine stance to take when you consider the innovations and pushes Microsoft has brought to console gaming. Do you think PSN would be as good as it is now if Microsoft never released the XBOX?
No.
But, as a consumer, I like to see good products and the companies that come up with them succeed and shitty products / tactics fail.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Holy shit bwahaha!
I still can't believe they would do this considering online penetration around the world still isn't at the point I would think it should be. For me personally though I agree with his "electricity will go out, I won't buy a TV" point. That is the reasoning that will cause me to purchase a 720 despite all this. It's not good reasoning for everyone though. If your internet going out is an issue then you have every right to say fuck this console. It almost certainly means when I have a choice between a PS4 and 720 version of a game I will be getting the PS4 unless there are some crazy exclusive features. I'm amazed he would even talk about this right now though.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
This might be the first time the overall voice of gamers here is against Xbox. Sony got it bad in PS3 reveal, and Nintendo took the wrath towards end of Wii and now with Wii U. It's interesting to see Micrsoft get shit on for once.
The majority of people simply aren't going to care - most 360 owners already have Live and are online. Gripe and moan all you want, but the guy has a point. Now me, the PS3 is online and the XBox isn't simply because it doesn't have a wireless adaptor, and I'm not paying the scratch for one.
My choice. And always online is real - my home office is connected via the Internet, and if my Internet is down, so is my productivity. Hell, my coworkers were giving me crap for not being able to participate in video conference the first few months because of crappy Internet connection.
The fact is - this isn't going to matter to 95% of 360 owners. MS is prepared to lose the other 5% because they make nothing off of them anyway.
My choice. And always online is real - my home office is connected via the Internet, and if my Internet is down, so is my productivity. Hell, my coworkers were giving me crap for not being able to participate in video conference the first few months because of crappy Internet connection.
The fact is - this isn't going to matter to 95% of 360 owners. MS is prepared to lose the other 5% because they make nothing off of them anyway.
At least he made it a year, cause he won't be there for long for leaking about the always on console.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Well, to be fair, he wasnt hired as a rep. Hes a Creative Director and should not speak in behalf of MS, thats not his job.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Yesterday called, they want their joke back.
Sorry I had to. Even though I hold it close to my heart, I think I'll have to play Halo 5 on someone elses machine if this is the case.
lastflowers
Banned
The amount of vitriol in this thread is amazing.
Smiles and Cries
Member
they better never have a Simcity level issue
I can't imagine the crazy backlash coming
to be fair my Wii U is always online but I can't imagine not being able to play MonHun because Miiverse is down
I can't imagine the crazy backlash coming
to be fair my Wii U is always online but I can't imagine not being able to play MonHun because Miiverse is down
Did you play Halo 4? Halo is dead/dying:
The next xbox is going to need more than another Halo game to pike interest.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Wow. Such BS.
Those analogies don't even fucking work. You NEED electricity for a modern vacuum cleaner, you don't NEED internet to play SP games. Do we need network reception to play games on our cellphones? Fucking guy needs to think his arguments out.
Those analogies don't even fucking work. You NEED electricity for a modern vacuum cleaner, you don't NEED internet to play SP games. Do we need network reception to play games on our cellphones? Fucking guy needs to think his arguments out.
Vire
Member
That's what happens when some asshole bigshot at Microsoft basically tells their consumers to go fuck themselves.
Even one of the good folks over at Polygon are calling BS on this. Wow.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Huh. He once worked for Sony, and when I looked it up, while working for EA he had a conversation with Jaffe where he said "fuck Halo." What a guy!
Ninja Scooter
Member
People are used to needing an internet connection to get the most out of these expensive devices. LIke I said, sure they don't require a connection, but how useful is an iPad to your average consumer if their internet goes out for a few hours? Honestly?
toddhunter
Member
Same reason people pay for online play when a competitor doesn't?
Because their friends do it too. Microsoft + always online + 1 month COD or GTA exclusivity? = same shit all over again.
Diablohead
Member
He does say that he wants it to be always online but i'm sure there is more to what he wants going on here, especially comparing it (lol) to a hoover.
Nextbox is going to aim to be a media hub of some kind I can see it, adverts and subs before games.
Nextbox is going to aim to be a media hub of some kind I can see it, adverts and subs before games.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i just asked my ultra-casual sister about this in a roundabout way. She got her son a Wii U for Christmas. i told her about the new update coming out next month that will require on-line to play games offline. Her response "Wtf?"
i live in a fairly connected city and at least a few times a week the internet (and phone because we have a bundle) goes down. FOR HOURS AT A TIME. Some days i get up and the internet is out. i come home from work ten hours later and the internet is still fucking down. More aggravating than that is when it comes and goes intermittently for DAYS AT A TIME. Up for a few minutes, down for ten minutes. Up for a few more, then back down for even longer.
i live in a fairly connected city and at least a few times a week the internet (and phone because we have a bundle) goes down. FOR HOURS AT A TIME. Some days i get up and the internet is out. i come home from work ten hours later and the internet is still fucking down. More aggravating than that is when it comes and goes intermittently for DAYS AT A TIME. Up for a few minutes, down for ten minutes. Up for a few more, then back down for even longer.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Quote that please.
I can not believe, especially after Sony's console reveal and it NOT being always online...
and after the Diablo 3 and Sim City disasters...
that Microsoft would go through with an always online console.
If they announce that shit at E3 I guarantee you it will be met with a huge boo from the crowd and a drop in stock.
and after the Diablo 3 and Sim City disasters...
that Microsoft would go through with an always online console.
If they announce that shit at E3 I guarantee you it will be met with a huge boo from the crowd and a drop in stock.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I'll never defend the imbecile at Microsoft that made these comments, but I don't see always online as anything remotely controversial. Just about everybody is online these days. Most of the people complaining in this thread right now, have a solid and reliable enough internet connection to come online and poke fun at this. In fact, most regular gaf users don't have serious concerns about internet access, so what are we really left with? Much ado about nothing.
The real controversy here isn't that Microsoft is defending always online. The real controversy is the disrespectful and foolish manner by which a Microsoft employee, in representing the company, has chosen to defend an always online console. For those believing this somehow wraps things up for Sony and the PS4 with a nice little bow on top, better think again. Always online will, I repeat, do nothing to significantly harm sales of the next Xbox compared to the PS4. For those emotionally invested in seeing one of the two machines fail, you better start placing your bets on something else, because always online isn't it.
And there it is. Xbox Live has never been that unreliable. Nothing on that level happened to the 360, and nothing on that level will happen on the next Xbox. People really believe that Microsoft won't have all their ducks in a row on this thing? Come on.
The real controversy here isn't that Microsoft is defending always online. The real controversy is the disrespectful and foolish manner by which a Microsoft employee, in representing the company, has chosen to defend an always online console. For those believing this somehow wraps things up for Sony and the PS4 with a nice little bow on top, better think again. Always online will, I repeat, do nothing to significantly harm sales of the next Xbox compared to the PS4. For those emotionally invested in seeing one of the two machines fail, you better start placing your bets on something else, because always online isn't it.
And there it is. Xbox Live has never been that unreliable. Nothing on that level happened to the 360, and nothing on that level will happen on the next Xbox. People really believe that Microsoft won't have all their ducks in a row on this thing? Come on.
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