schwabdizzle
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I can see $500 for both consoles. I really think that's a fair price. Considering that they are new and true next gen unlike Wii U. I was hoping they would be less though so that Wii U would go to $199.
We can debate which system is worth the price but at this point though doesn't everybody expect to pay between 500-600 bucks for the next gen of Sony and Microsoft systems? I know I am not expecting either system to sell for less than $500.00
You obviously missed all the "what price you would pay" threads.
Most people expect the consoles to be under 500.
Can someone here explain why they ever thought the Xbox 720 would have BC?
We have known it's going to be x86 for a while now. How in the world would it have BC?
What if "always online required" is to cut off players who stop paying their subscription fees (if they go with the possible $300+sub option).
Has this been speculated/discussed yet?
Can someone here explain why they ever thought the Xbox 720 would have BC?
We have known it's going to be x86 for a while now. How in the world would it have BC?
Don't forget MS took awhile to really take off. I remember being confident in the Wii because of how slow the 360 was selling. It took forever to sell 10 million. And it's price wad much better than this rumor. And it wasn't selling against any next gen competitor for a long time. Kind of like this gen is going. Nobody feels confident with the Wii u at these rates. What if Sony and MSLet's not pretend that people were happy about Sony's pricing. Lets not also pretend like they had good sales because of it. They had shit sales because of it and it was $600 because Blu-ray was incredibly expensive at the time. What's the excuse now? Sony's $599 blunder was exactly that, a blunder. That doesn't mean you become a corporate apologist when MS tries to do the same thing 7 years later.
Sony's $599 wasn't them setting the standard of what a console should cost, far from it. And the real reason Microsoft was the winner for so long is because they had the cheapest console. And what happened when Sony's machine finally became around the same price as the Xbox? Sales became more even. A $499 console launch will equal another slow trickle of sales just like it did before.
360 started out at $300 and $400. But let's be real, $400 was the price because you need a HDD. But not $500. That won't fly this time.
Let's not pretend that people were happy about Sony's pricing. Lets not also pretend like they had good sales because of it. They had shit sales because of it and it was $600 because Blu-ray was incredibly expensive at the time. What's the excuse now? Sony's $599 blunder was exactly that, a blunder. That doesn't mean you become a corporate apologist when MS tries to do the same thing 7 years later.
Sony's $599 wasn't them setting the standard of what a console should cost, far from it. And the real reason Microsoft was the winner for so long is because they had the cheapest console. And what happened when Sony's machine finally became around the same price as the Xbox? Sales became more even. A $499 console launch will equal another slow trickle of sales just like it did before.
360 started out at $300 and $400. But let's be real, $400 was the price because you need a HDD. But not $500. That won't fly this time.
Can someone here explain why they ever thought the Xbox 720 would have BC?
We have known it's going to be x86 for a while now. How in the world would it have BC?
If 720 is always online, and Microsoft charges for online (live), that means you have to purchase live regardless. Why would I purchase the $500 non-subscription model if I still have to pay for live anyway?
Can someone here explain why they ever thought the Xbox 720 would have BC?
We have known it's going to be x86 for a while now. How in the world would it have BC?
Can someone here explain why they ever thought the Xbox 720 would have BC?
We have known it's going to be x86 for a while now. How in the world would it have BC?
If 720 is always online, and Microsoft charges for online (live), that means you have to purchase live regardless. Why would I purchase the $500 non-subscription model if I still have to pay for live anyway?
I'm curious about the rumor of a $99 360 alongside the 720. Would that be such a good idea? Wouldn't people say screw it, and grab that instead of buying the 720 at $300 or $500?
Am I the only one that's fine with this?
I buy 3-4 titles a year. I don't buy used games. Ever.
I always want to play online, always have internet.
I am all for the move to home entertainment (streaming, cable and games all in one).
If they convince me enough to take my dollars from Apple and Roku, then +1 MS for a true entertainment system + getting my games on with the same thing.
Am I the only one that's fine with this?
I buy 3-4 titles a year. I don't buy used games. Ever.
I always want to play online, always have internet.
I am all for the move to home entertainment (streaming, cable and games all in one).
If they convince me enough to take my dollars from Apple and Roku, then +1 MS for a true entertainment system + getting my games on with the same thing.
Am I the only one that's fine with this?
I buy 3-4 titles a year. I don't buy used games. Ever.
I always want to play online, always have internet.
I am all for the move to home entertainment (streaming, cable and games all in one).
If they convince me enough to take my dollars from Apple and Roku, then +1 MS for a true entertainment system + getting my games on with the same thing.
360 had BC with some XBOX games, and the original XBOX was x86. If the 720 were powerful enough, it could emulate the 360.
360 had BC with some XBOX games, and the original XBOX was x86. If the 720 were powerful enough, it could emulate the 360.
All I want is for XBox live arcade games to work. That's it.
Hey guys.. Guess who else will be launching at $500?
360 had BC with some XBOX games, and the original XBOX was x86. If the 720 were powerful enough, it could emulate the 360.
If physical discs aren't backwards compatible live games won't be either.
After all a physical disc is just digital media stored in physical form. They can port it, it's just not a guarantee. The good news though is that all original Xbox games should be supported. Their is no reason to not have backwards compatibility with the original at this point.
They are pumping huge profit margins in that package - for themself.
$500 is not the same as $600. Both consoles will be in that $500 range at launch, there's no way around it.
Because you've seen the BoM and details? mind sharing them?
360 emulation of Xbox was so terrible.
I'm curious about the rumor of a $99 360 alongside the 720. Would that be such a good idea? Wouldn't people say screw it, and grab that instead of buying the 720 at $300 or $500?
Hey guys.. Guess who else will be launching at $500?
Not from what I've played.
360 had BC with some XBOX games, and the original XBOX was x86. If the 720 were powerful enough, it could emulate the 360.
The Xbox 1 games I tried to play on the 360:
I'm playing San Andreas on the 360, runs perfectly. BC on 360 is pretty clutch for games like Kotor and JSRF.
What we have seems to work well:
NFL2K5
An Incredible Hulk game
A Spiderman game
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Loons
That's all that remains of the original Xbox game list in our library, but it's decent. It's sad to see that the 1st party games had issues. They really shouldn't have.
The fact is, I enjoy games for 3-6 months. Rarely will I play a game for longer than that, and usually only because DLC has come out. I am not a minority either.If you don't buy used games, I assume you also don't trade games in? If you keep your games are you ok with the idea that at some point in the future those games become unplayable when the 720's servers go down?
There is nothing about unifying streaming, cable, and games that would require a constant internet connection.
Sources say architecture for Microsoft's next-gen platform will mirror PS4; new format means Xbox 360 discs won't be compatible.
Has this been posted yet?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-720-powered-by-amd-x86-chip-report-6406591
The fact is, I enjoy games for 3-6 months. Rarely will I play a game for longer than that, and usually only because DLC has come out. I am not a minority either.though it seems I am a minority on GAF
If, years down the road, the servers are shut down and I cannot play. Darn. I'm sure there will be better things down the road. I am not necessarily completely for this model, just that it wouldn't be a huge negative to convince me to purchase a PS4. I know quite a few people who would agree with me, but just aren't as vocal about it. I don't trade in games, I don't borrow games from friends. If I like a game, I support the developers.
Hmm Washington Post seems to think it's going to be OUT by the end of next month?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e4a27a-a057-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_story.html
"Gamers, get your wallets ready. According to reports from The Verge and Microsoft-centric blogger Paul Thurrott, Microsoft is gearing up to release its next-generation Xbox by the end of next month."
Hmm Washington Post seems to think it's going to be OUT by the end of next month?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e4a27a-a057-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_story.html
"Gamers, get your wallets ready. According to reports from The Verge and Microsoft-centric blogger Paul Thurrott, Microsoft is gearing up to release its next-generation Xbox by the end of next month."
LOL. Or maybe it is an incomplete sentence that has been taken out of context. Like: "must be internet-connected to use... all social and entertainment applications".