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[unbias]

They are incompetent.... they haven't announced the price for the new activation code...

Do you mind that I fixed that?

 

[Knux-Future]

Empty statement..

but I hope it means they will change it and back off..

but lol at that.

I guess all we can hope for is a less shit system.

 

[Neuromancer]

Oh thank god. I feel so much better now.

 

[madmackem]

The fact they aint saying doesnt bode well, i think we all know the fee thing is coming.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

"Over the paste few days"

Fired.

Too many copy and paste does that to you.

 

[kingocfs]

For fucks sake, stop with the vague PR bullshit!

What is vague about "breathe for a second and wait for us to say something?"

 

[Alucrid]

It's like they're treating the used game and online status issues as features to unveil at a later date. Such bullshit.

 

[Kingbrave]

The very fact that they even have to issue a statement and then later a policy is silly. They didn't need to for their other systems.

 

[NullPointer]

Those policy clarifications are going to be exclusive pre-order content. Just watch.

The Collector's Edition console will come with a 2x2 cloth TOS ready to frame.

 

[Absoludacrous]

The fact that they had to issue a statement means they know the general vibe out here so lets hope that will change what they planned on doing originally.

We can at least hope.

I doubt anything is going to change. They've clearly been working with retail chains to implement some sort of closed system. I doubt they'll scrap all that work and planning because of some internet outrage, sadly.

 

[Mr.Wreckless]

Can someone give me the official policy that will be in place when I try and buy Madden 14 used on PS4?

Oh you can't because no final policies have been publicized by Sony and EA either.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

There you go, Everyone can stop speculating now. Thanks!

 

[Surface of Me]

This. What I'm guessing will happen is Microsoft will run an eBay on the Xbox where users can trade/sell games to each other. When you trade away a game it is removed from your account and registered to the buyers account.

This is what I though of as well, but I'm not sure I trust MS to price it well.

 

[Claneko]

"What people are saying about what we said is inaccurate, and I'll tell you why later!"

 

[massoluk]

...

"The information is incomplete, here's more vague information."

 

[Delusibeta]

At this point, I'm going to take that as confirmation that Microsoft will demand all used games to have a minimum price of £35/$50, and block any retailer who won't accept keeping only £3.50/$5 per used game sold from accepting trade ins. Your refusal to clarify is doing nothing, Nelson.

 

[unbias]

What is vague about "breathe for a second and wait for us to say something?"

Better they didn't say anything. I'm not sure how the hell people and think statements like that are helpful, when the thing people want is clarity?

 

[Vol5]

Embarrassing and infuriating.

You have access to these corporate shills, right?

Ask some hard hitting fucking questions and keep asking until you get something that's a real, honest answer. Do us and you (journos) a favour.

 

[kodt]

I'm pretty sure this is the first time they've said anything since the conference.

Yeah but this was just to say "Stop speculating until we actually announce something".

 

[fastford58]

the fact is,there shouldn't be any new "policy" to announce..just leave customers and the games they have paid for alone

No money in that.

 

[spookyfish]

"We understand you're not happy about this, but let me assure you with the following:


..."

 

[RavenH2]

Do you mind that I fixed that?

Go ahead, be my guest

 

[KemoSabe]

hm guess thats doesn´t sounds soo bad?

but there is still this fucking 24h online thing...
why microsoft?
without this "feature" i would have bought it day 1

 

[Diddy Kong]

That statement literally said nothing.

Exactly

 

[Soi-Fong]

Same old PR bullshit. Just clear it up MS.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

It's crazy how poorly MS is handling this from a PR standpoint. It's like they had no idea this would blow-up after the conference with questions.

Crazy bad.

 

[IHaveCandy]

They'll let you deal your games in a manner that gets them a cut. Terrible.

 

[i-Lo]

Well I hope he can "paste" the rest for us to see sooner rather than later.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Embarrassing and infuriating.

I would really love a straight answer.

They had months when these rumors were swarming around.... Then adam orth...

 

[Dead Prince]

Weight lifted off my shoulders now.

 

[jabuseika]

They still said nothing.

You're only making it worse at this point Microsoft.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Who does Major Nelson answer to? Who's his superior? General Disarray? Get him on the horn.

 

[Danielsan]

He guys, this story that's running about used games is. It's wrong. Please believe us while we figure out what to do about this shit storm.

 

[FonkyByNature]

Ouffff, what a relief. So we can buy and trade used games like we are doing now ? or there's more details to that ? Please be exited ?

 

[kingocfs]

Better they didn't say anything. I'm not sure how the hell people and think statements like that are helpful, when the thing people want is clarity?

Where was Sony's clarity? These companies are still actively working on this stuff. It's software DRM, they can wait until weeks before release to finalize it if they really wanted to.

 

[Eteric Rice]

So, nothing new then - everything exactly as negative as before.

We know you can trade/resell games into some arcane system that Microsoft is going to set up, and if you're a business that buys/sells those games you have to go through MS and pay publishers a fee (a cost surely passed on the consumers as well, naturally).

And we also know that this new system effectively kills lending, borrowing and renting, and there is once every 24 hour internet verification to use games.

So, thanks for clarifying that everything still sucks Microsoft.

Basically this.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Can someone give me the official policy that will be in place when I try and buy Madden 14 used on PS4?

Oh you can't because no final policies have been publicized by Sony and EA either.

Right but there also isn't 24 hour online drm.

 

[knitoe]

If you need to explain something that was obvious before than you know you are in deep shit. Add in, "trust us", you'll know more later. They are just digging a deeper hole.

 

[G_Berry]

I think this is one of my favorite gifs.

 

[Spartaner]

They had months when these rumors were swarming around.... Then adam orth...

youd think that a billion dollar company would be prepared for stuff like this...

 

[madmackem]

Can someone give me the official policy that will be in place when I try and buy Madden 14 used on PS4?

Oh you can't because no final policies have been publicized by Sony and EA either.

Not even the same, sonys event was months ago and they didnt have five different people saying five different things. They fucked up and its pretty clear there is going to be a fee involved.

 

[chubigans]

Yeah but this was just to say "Stop speculating until we actually announce something".

I really wonder if they thought that would work, hah.

 

[legacyzero]

Embarrassing and infuriating.

Seriously! This doesn't clarify anything LOL.

Our policies are bad, but you don't understand how bad yet, so quit jumping to conclusions.

Pretty much this.

 

[Shinta]

"Over the paste few days"

Go home Xbone, you're drunk.

 

[unbias]

Where was Sony's clarity? These companies are still actively working on this stuff. It's software DRM, they can wait until weeks before release to finalize it if they really wanted to.

Sony has kept their mouth shut.

 

[Psi]

Over the paste few days

Well now he's just being an ass about it.

 

[Various Artists]

The longer they wait to tell us what their policy is, the more the rumors will hurt them. I for one believe the rumors at this point. Every other rumor has been true.

I think if anything does change it will be because of this massive reaction. If nobody said anything the rumors out there now would be reality.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Same old PR bullshit. Just clear it up MS.

So you just want them to come straight out and tell you that you are getting screwed? Nah, they'll keep dancing around the issue and keep you guessing.

 

[Flarin]

It says the current reports are inaccurate.

We shall see.

Which reports are inaccurate about what? There's so much being talked about in regards to used games. I understand the need to quell the masses a bit, but this is adding fuel to the fire rather than making it smaller.

 

[Boom Boom Pow]

And here it is:

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-and-used-games-2/



Well glad that's all cleared up then.

err, did no one catch that he misspelled past?