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Major Nelson/MS issues an official statement regarding Used Games on XBox One

Dipswitch

Member
Oy - I don't understand how they could have dropped the ball on this topic so very badly. They knew this was going to be a clusterfuck months in advance of the reveal when news leaked. And yet they still didn't have a good response when the event was held.

We all know roadblocks are going to be enacted around the resale, lending and renting of games. The question at this point is how bad is it going to be? Rather than dancing around the issue, MS needs to be straight with their customers, instead of dancing around the fucking issue like a bunch of amateurs. At this point, you're insulting our intelligence as well as diminishing our rights as consumers.
 
The very fact that there has to been information shared about the future of pre-owned games means they will try to enforce mandatory changes in how people trade and sell their games. Otherwise, they could have just said "no different than it is now. you can sell to retailers to yourselves"
 

GeeDuhb

Member
Is it just me, or is that essentially the same statement they have said about 17 times in the past few days?

How about you clarify the "the One does not have to be contantly connected but an Internet connection is required" statement?
 
jwUvW.gif

Perfectly sums up this PR statement.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
This is like the 5th nondescript statement from their camp. Pretty sure we have enough of these, Larry.
 

Soren01

Member
Haha.. If the used games system were the same as the 360, a simple statement will be sufficient, not all this damage control.
 
All those delays.

It looks like the delayed announcement was modify their stance and change things last minute once they knew they created a bomb.

That's the only explanation for this. The fact that they still aren't unified is unsettling.
 

dreamfall

Member
Really? He couldn't provide any information? So we remain cynical while we read varying reports on how activation codes kill any borrowing or used games?

I'm interested in seeing what their game line up is for E3, but everything about the system thus far has made me feel very uneasy.
 

Sulla1980

Member
Please disclose more information now, especially when you tell me that you are disclosing more information.

Please, no more "it is not that..." Just tell me what it is.
 

liquidtmd

Banned
"Man you guys are so wrong. On the forums weve read people have concerns about us blocking used games. Let us be clear..."

Kind Regards
MS
 
Microsoft should start making merry go rounds, there fooking good at creating loops!!!!

They start of answering a question by leaving us with the exact same question!!!!
 
The fact that they had to issue a statement means they know the general vibe out here so lets hope that will change what they planned on doing originally.

We can at least hope.

If they were gonna change it, they would have been more concrete.

It's gonna be ignored for as long as they can get away with it and hope to God the games at E3 make up for it.
 
I haven't been keeping up with all of this madness, but all of this 'used games/activation fee/etc.' stuff could really muck up REDBOX and/or Gamefly rentals, no?


REDBOX saved my ass when it came to Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Even there I felt bad having to pay the single day rental fee.
 

Megatron

Member
Translation: We have no intention of changing any of our policies, but we want you to stop complaining about it.
 

unbias

Member
No, they said it could play used games, but never detailed how.

Uh-huh, and have kept their mouth shut since. You are kidding yourself if you don't think Sony will get crapped on if they end up having the same policy. Still though, it doesn't change the fact that the PR machine of MS is insufferable. If you cant see the difference in how Sony has dealt with the media and fans, I'm not sure what I can say to make you see the difference.
 

hal9001

Banned
Wait... so to clear up the confusion they release a statement saying they will release another statement sometime in the future regarding their used games policy? What's the point? Do they just want to buy some time by saying its "not true"?
 

joesiv

Member
They are incomplete.... they haven't announced the price for the new activation code...

It's kind of interesting.

If they charge less than full price for the new activation, then wouldn't that encourage people to buy one game and then just share that disk among all friends/family (even class at school/university). Since it would be a legitmate method of "paying" MS.

If they charge full price, then how they manage "family" members, and people in the house becomes more of the sticking point.

Another option is an option in the Xbox Live account that signals a "trade in", which takes it off your account, and thus allows the game to be relicensed in the "used" market.

Say:
- buy game new for $60
- authorize game as "sold", it is taken off your account, but you get $10 from MS
- you sell game to gamestop for $20
- someone buys your game from gamestop for $35
- they must pay MS $15 for their Xboxlive account to be active for that game.

So you get $30 for your used game, gamestop gets $15, MS gets $5, and the new buyer only pays $50...

I guess it'd be a better deal over something like craigslist.

However, if you opt to not authorize the removal from your Xboxlive account, then non designated family members would have to pay, the full online price?
 

RavenH2

Member
Great Idea! Blame others for statements you made yourself. That will work out well.

Oh god!! That game on your avatar pic, I used to play it till death... it still bothers me thou that I could never, ever pait a whole room with my tracks without being eaten by the dog or beaten by the flyng broomsticks.
 
"We're hoping that our E3 press conference will be so flashy and exciting that you all forget about the used games issue. Then, if asked about it in later media interviews, we'll state that details will be provided a month following the launch of Xbox One."
 

Maztorre

Member
So much for Simple, Instant, Complete when you cannot even explain your DRM or resell policies. That we're even waiting for your fucking "policy" on the right to resell is shameful.

BTW comfy couch advocates if you can do the mental legwork to work out microsoft's actual policies within this clusterfuck you are more than capable of building a PC and avoiding this shit sandwich.
 

Knoxcore

Member
This is not new. We already know used games will be allowed on the XBO. What we don't know is if there will be additional fees charged to play a used games.
 
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