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[rac]

ADS has its place in atmospheric single player games and realistic military (see: Arma, Red Orchestra)

Competitive multiplayer its just a crutch and slows down the pace of the game.

Hopefully your accuracy isn't horrible when you aren't using ADS.

 

[Drek]

they didnt debunk it. everything respawn's trying to do with the cloud is very well feasible

And it was all more or less possible back when we called "the cloud" dedicated servers, FYI.

The XB1/XB360 versions will likely rely on MS' "cloud" to handle the dedicated server costs, but who's subsidizing the PC side? I can't imagine EA will be content with a measly $60 MSRP to give us access to the infinite power of the cloud as long as we wish to play this.

 

[AndyD]

Yes. It's just filler to make it sound more appealing instead of listing:

"Pros- dedicated servers
Cons- always online"

Pretty much.

 

[bidguy]

I love how they say its impossible to run the game without the cloud, yet are releasing a PC and 360 version. Does part of MS's moneyhat require them to bullshit the public about rhe cloud as well? Sad.

Also, lol@PC release but calling it exclusive.

the 360 is going to use the same servers (xbox live) and windows aswell. at least thats what i think. everyone is jumping at the developers but what they say may very well be true.

 

[ciridesu]

Could be a cool game. Personally though, the fact it's a Source game is a total boner killer. I've always viewed dat 'SHOOTING FEEL' of source worse in comparison to engines like id3

No what's pathetic is the near sociopathic hate for a piece of plastic that isn't made by a corporation you happen to love. For months now before the X1 was even revealed you had people coming into any thread about the xbox with no intention to really discuss anything pertaining to a game, but rather to pull their pants down and take a big stinky dump in everyone's fucking cornflakes.You even have certain posters who will claim to have no interest in the console who are in every fucking thread about it taking a shit.

You want to see "pathetic" take a look at the fucking Forza 5 thread, before and especially after it's confirmed to be native 1080p. "Persecution complex" my ass! It's just another case of forum console warriors doing their thing. Nothing more, nothing less.

You ok

 

[sometimes i game]

Will this be a big game? I feel like there are enough shooters, even scifi, and the studio is unknown to the masses.

 

[Einbroch]

10000 people are viewing gaming side because of this thread.

 

[PaleFolklore]

So it's being published by EA and built on the source engine. I'll be interested to see if this makes it on to Steam. This game doesn't sound very interesting to me personally.

 

[jediyoshi]

I love how they say its impossible to run the game without the cloud, yet are releasing a PC and 360 version. Does part of MS's moneyhat require them to bullshit the public about the cloud as well?

Call me wild, but those moneyhat bucks are probably feeding back into development.

 

[Steroyd]

I agree it is bad for anyone but is potentially a smart business move. Impacts me less as I will almost certainly own all the consoles (as usual).

As people are pointing out, the "cloud" seems to offer a lot of benefits which are similar to being server based matchmaking...currently the 360 is P2P so even forgetting the PR buzzwords the experience will be step up.

On the same topic, I'm hoping Sony offers something similar or forces all of their customers to use server based matchmaking..come to think of it all of my MP games were on the 360 after I could not stand the experience of Resistance 2 when I first purchased my PS3, do they already to this or is it P2P?

I believe Resistance 2 used dedicated servers like Resistance 1.

 

[SRTtoZ]

If people haven't figured out by now that "the cloud" is being used to keep us online at all times for DRM purposes then I don't know what to say.

 

[JaggedSac]

I love how they say its impossible to run the game without the cloud, yet are releasing a PC and 360 version. Does part of MS's moneyhat require them to bullshit the public about the cloud as well? Sad.

Also, lol@PC release but calling it exclusive.

Cloud computing is platform agnostic.

 

[ElyrionX]

Surprise surprise it's another fucking shooter

 

[Vex]

I love how they say its impossible to run the game without the cloud, yet are releasing a PC and 360 version. Does part of MS's moneyhat require them to bullshit the public about the cloud as well? Sad.

Also, lol@PC release but calling it exclusive.

Console exclusive and Azure is based on Windows technology, so I don't even...

 

[Dan]

- Going for a District 9 or Blade Runner vibe.

What.

Those two things are incredibly dissimilar.

 

[flyingmonkeywhoa]

Makes sense and good to know. I look forward to seeing you flying the same flag in a future Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts thread

I honestly could care less if Kingdom Hearts 3 or Final Fantasy 1001 isn't exclusive because Sony has 1st party studios which negates the reason to moneyhat.

If anyone is really looking for a similar situation of moneyhatting from Sony (for a 3rd party exclusive), then the obvious one is MGS4, but at least they could use disc space as an excuse for not putting it on the 360.

 

[Kyon]

FPS? yeah no.. was excited at first tho

 

[Doctor Decimate]

And nothing has changed regarding Microsoft's definition of "exclusive"

 

[rac]

Surprise surprise it's another fucking shooter

From respawn, what the hell were you expecting they were going to make?

 

[MarkusRJR]

Looks awesome, but I can't help but laugh when they brought up "the cloud".

 

[imtehman]

i love the role reversal. except instead of devs saying the power of the cell we now have the power of the cloud. 3rd console curse, i didnt believe it at first but damn

 

[Sandy Nipples]

Sounds like MechAssault 2 and Starhawk to me.

The GI cover does imply that this is MS' big 3rd party showpiece at E3, but this is one hell of a gamble in all honesty. These dual gameplay mode online games have never clicked with the wider audience and an online heavy shooter that doesn't have a massive online user-base will see a very short lifespan.

Respawn needs to deliver a CoD4 level success basically out of the gate for this to live up to the standards MS is looking for here.

Sci Fi, I don't think this will go the Halo route, no way, its all about Master Sargent Major Delta El Tactico these days in the shooter multiplayer arena. Hell I even think Bungie are taking a gamble trying to recreate Halo's success.

 

[AppleMIX]

FPS? yeah no.. was excited at first tho

Were you not expecting a FPS?

Surprise surprise it's another fucking shooter

Some of us actually like the genre.

Also, do you think it runs on source 2?

 

[Cartman86]

What.

Those two things are incredibly dissimilar.

Yeah I agree but what they meant was it is supposed to be more grounded. Less far future like Halo and more realistic. I think the D9 comparison is good.

 

[UnluckyKate]

Source ? WAT

 

[Drek]

No what's pathetic is the near sociopathic hate for a piece of plastic that isn't made by a corporation you happen to love. For months now before the X1 was even revealed you had people coming into any thread about the xbox with no intention to really discuss anything pertaining to a game, but rather to pull their pants down and take a big stinky dump in everyone's fucking cornflakes.You even have certain posters who will claim to have no interest in the console who are in every fucking thread about it taking a shit.

You want to see "pathetic" take a look at the fucking Forza 5 thread, before and especially after it's confirmed to be native 1080p. "Persecution complex" my ass! It's just another case of forum console warriors doing their thing. Nothing more, nothing less.

Why is it pathetic to have a vocal opinion against a company actively looking to take away your rights as a consumer? Seems pretty sane to me. At least more so than the Stockholm syndrome we see from the opposite end of the spectrum.

 

[Dunlop]

I believe Resistance 2 used dedicated servers like Resistance 1.

Nah I hated it because I was excited with the massive player count, Blutooth headset armed and ready to find out because it was not standard with every console, nobody fucking used it.

Experience 2 was I believe the first MTG card game, my buddy also had both consoles so we purchased on the PS3. The process to group up and constant DC's caused us both to buy the same game again on the 360 lol.

After that the PS3 was used only for first party titles until I traded in my 360 a few months ago

Why is it pathetic to have a vocal opinion against a company actively looking to take away your rights as a consumer? Seems pretty sane to me. At least more so than the Stockholm syndrome we see from the opposite end of the spectrum.

Similar to my constant bitching about people interjected "Paywall","Kinect", bender.gif, there is nothing wrong with being vocal when it is warrented by the actual topic. Instead this will be used as another mechanism to derail XB1 threads for years to come

 

[bidguy]

Source ? WAT

read the op

 

[bill0527]

I love how they say its impossible to run the game without the cloud, yet are releasing a PC and 360 version. Does part of MS's moneyhat require them to bullshit the public about the cloud as well? Sad.

Also, lol@PC release but calling it exclusive.

I am LOLing at the fact he goes out of his way to explain they don't have the manpower for multi-platform development.....

Yet they had no problems outsourcing the 360 version. Which they could also have done for other platforms.

I smell:

 

[jacobs34]

Surprise surprise it's another fucking shooter

I know! I was also expecting a platformer/JRPG from the creators of Call Of Duty!

 

[Grief.exe]

What.

Those two things are incredibly dissimilar.

Maybe they are not talking about thematically, but just with the plot.

Aliens live on earth from District 9, robots from Blade Runner.

I know! I was also expecting a platformer/JRPG from the creators of Call Of Duty!

Farming Simulator.

 

[Marked_Bravado]

If people haven't figured out by now that "the cloud" is being used to keep us online at all times for DRM purposes then I don't know what to say.

So true.

 

[Rad-]

Why is it pathetic to have a vocal opinion against a company actively looking to take away your rights as a consumer? Seems pretty sane to me. At least more so than the Stockholm syndrome we see from the opposite end of the spectrum.

Tbh it's kind of pathetic if that topic is about a game, and not about things like that.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Why is it pathetic to have a vocal opinion against a company actively looking to take away your rights as a consumer? Seems pretty sane to me. At least more so than the Stockholm syndrome we see from the opposite end of the spectrum.

Exactly. The very first XB1 "exclusive" we have details about is online only and we're supposed to be screaming hip hip hooray? Do people not see where this is going?

 

[PandaL]

Not for PS4.

 

[ElyrionX]

From respawn, what the hell were you expecting they were going to make?

Something that hasn't already been done to death this gen and that I am not tired of.

 

[FuturusX]

If I were a developer and I was open to receiving a money hat. I insist the actual payment was delivered in an actual hat. A top hat. $100 bills. I'm serious. It's the only way.

 

[bidguy]

Exactly. The very first XB1 "exclusive" we have details about is online only and we're supposed to be screaming hip hip hooray? Do people not see where this is going?

its multiplayer only, what did you expect ?
im sure you can play other games offline. games with an actual singleplayer mode you know.

 

[Dunlop]

Tbh it's kind of pathetic if that topic is about a game, and not about things like that.

bingo

 

[Beer Monkey]

Very smart of Microsoft. I've been expecting this after Unity turned out to not be timed console-exclusive for 360/XB1.

Honestly this will likely sell better than Unity.

Sony fanboys shouldn't be upset, PS3 got Haze.

 

[Kyon]

Were you not expecting a FPS?

thought it was 3rd person Lost Planet clone with SoTC elements. I guess shouldnt expect anything less from MS :/

 

[SRTtoZ]

its multiplayer only, what did you expect ?
im sure you can play other games offline. games with an actual singleplayer mode you know.

If that happens ill be insanely happy but nothing has been confirmed as of yet.

 

[AppleMIX]

thought it was 3rd person Lost Planet clone with SoTC elements. I guess shouldnt expect less from MS

Where the hell did you get that?

 

[jacobs34]

Exactly. The very first XB1 "exclusive" we have details about is online only and we're supposed to be screaming hip hip hooray? Do people not see where this is going?

Always online. Pay to play online. Microtransactions.

We are doomed. Only Gabe Newell can save us now. (If we can get him to stop playing DOTA 2.)

 

[PhatSaqs]

Sony fanboys shouldn't be upset, PS3 got Haze.

LMAO

 

[flyingmonkeywhoa]

its multiplayer only, what did you expect ?
im sure you can play other games offline. games with an actual singleplayer mode you know.

You need an internet connection to play single player games on the Xbox One

 

[SteveWinwood]

Would have never thought source engine. That's crazy. The biggest reveal to me at least in this.

 

[Kyon]

Where the hell did you get that?

um the COVER?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

LMAO

And a hazing PS3 got for that one.

 

[Sandy Nipples]

You need an internet connection to play single player games on the Xbox One

Man, fuck that noise, I was part of D3, of SimCity, you don't know the shit I've seen. I have had the woman I love, my FIANCE, cry because a city she built in SimCity got "lost in the cloud" or something stupid like that, no, screw that shit!