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TitanFall (EA/Respawn, PC/XB1/360, Spring 2014, Game Informer Leak, All Info In OP)
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oldergamer
Member
In theory, if data streaming is occurring in a game, you can predict what direction a player is going and if you can do that you can determine what physics will be required at specific points. The cloud can calculate the physics keyframes with the console filling in the gaps while using less processing power ( essentially lerping between keyframes ).
I'm just throwing out theory, but people really needed to relax and wait to see if MS actually shows something using the cloud before claiming what can't be done. Everyone already knows it won't be for anything time sensitive in a game. MS already stated that.
Goodacre0081
Member
this is why I always think twice about buying EA games. even when they talk about the "power of the cloud", what are MS' policies on things like this? will they be hosting dedicated servers for all publishers for the next 10 years? will this be only for first party games and money hats?
it's hard to get hyped about xbox exclusives these days with MS being so disingenuous towards the gamer
It sounds like gamers are on parole for buying games, what the hell!?
Most ridiculous thing I've read today! I won't use my phone to play a game! I've played Super Mario Bros on the NES offline 20! years ago!
It's 2013 and it should be easier, not harder to play! Everything should be easier!!
By the way
Two more years...
Phire Phox
Banned
Games sounds pretty good. Hopefully we'll see more at E3.
Hunter Gather
Banned
Real question: Then how does a service like Gaikai handle AI and physics. I know it's streaming but can't MS 'stream' just some of the AI that's not in the players view?
It's exclusive to the Microsoft "ecosystem"! If you want to play this game you'll have to give MS money one way or another.
Can't wait to see how the game looks, 60fps next-gen Source game. It should be pretty.
Edit: I hope everyone screaming moneyhats!!1!1 will do the same in every third party exclusive games that Sony will get. Right guys?
you can play it at a friends house and give no one money.
SRTtoZ
Member
Most ridiculous thing I've read today! I won't use my phone to play a game! I've played Super Mario Bros on the NES offline 20! years ago!
It's 2013 and it should be easier, not harder to play! Everything should be easier!!
By the way
Two more years...
WTF MAN. I'm still excited for power laces!
Four_Chamber
Member
My body is ready to hear more about this on Monday.
Huge, huge exclusive for Microsoft.
Huge, huge exclusive for Microsoft.
PdotMichael
Banned
A cover is enough?
famousmortimer
Banned
Are we ignoring that it's on the PC?
We couldn't get it to run on current gen. But it's still coming to current gen.
Everything to do with Xbone news is filled with contradictions.
The gameplay itself sounds kinda cool, although I'm much more interested in single playing gaming than online.
Everything to do with Xbone news is filled with contradictions.
The gameplay itself sounds kinda cool, although I'm much more interested in single playing gaming than online.
Yeah, this is a smokescreen for DRM. I'm not buying any game that has singleplayer modes, but uses the "power of the cloud".
I think this says more about EA than Microsoft. I try not to be hyperbolic, but it just seems like EA is willing to pass up any potential goodwill for PlayStation owners, just to bypass second-hand sales. Microsoft may be willing to be the public face for this particular brand of DRM, but clearly EA is backing this 100%. And this won't be the last game that EA pigeonholes into this DRM, either. They are destroying the industry.
There have been numerous articles debunking Microsoft's PR claim of the cloud's power, and anyone with sense will know that using the cloud for physics calculations is bullshit. I'm not falling for it, and I hope others don't, either...
The majority of console gamers do.
is there a pc conference monday ?
Did you read the OP, or just look at the cover?
I sit in front of a PC all day. I have a gaming PC for "special case" games like Diablo 3, but 100% of the time if I have a console option, I will take the console option.
There was a thread before that could explain it better.
But it's simply not feasible to have a cloud handle those things when the machine can do them just fine.
thats what Microsoft is hoping for
This is what I was thinking.
RebornYeti
Member
Haha, is this thread the reason? Didn't think it was a megaton.
This is potentially a console war winning game.
Colonel Nasty
Member
Is PC not running windows? You guys are really sticking it to Microsoft buying it on their other platform.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Sometimes that's enough for some
I want to see some footage before even committing any kind of interest.
Probably Konami "live" stream.
Glorified G
Member
That post you responded didn't say it was always online. The post said you need an internet connection (daily permission from ms), and if you don't have one you can't play single player games.
PdotMichael
Banned
SniperHunter
Banned
MS should have paid extra and secured as a 100% xbox exclusive. Also being on pc loses some of the luster as a system seller
dont think so. saw 9000 before this thread was up
It's not exactly a new concept. Plenty of games do it.
Yup. Its a big part of CoD's draw. I like Halo, but never got into the multiplayer because you had to really shoot somebody a good amount and it was difficult because everybody was jumping around and getting plenty of time to find cover. I understand it makes for a higher skill ceiling, but thats certainly not something newcomers are going to necessarily enjoy.
They don't see revenue for our purchase of the game on a Windows machine.
They only see revenue from the purchase of the OS.
I am genuinely curious, can you name the plenty of games?
I'm certainly not. Gotta admire and appreciate Microsoft's lax stance on PC ports on some of their big console exclusives, especially their XBLA stuff over the gen.
Hope this trend continues.
But the Digital Foundry article that everyone uses as some kind of Mythbuster mentions 'ambient physics' (whatever this is) and AI as the kind of things that are actually possible with the cloud.
Did he get banned for this? Is saying "haze" a bannable offence now?
You are correct.
A faster TTK (Time to Kill) makes it considerably more friendly towards new and casual players.
The point is not about sticking it to anyone but rather getting it with the least amount of BS attached at the cheapest price with the most options and performance.
cookie-monster
Member
dedicated servers have been doing everything mentioned so far since the dawn of modem multiplayer.
none of this is "cloud".
Full game streaming is different, as Gaikai and OnLive use compression to send fully-rendered frames through an internet connection. Direct interaction AI & physics calculations, all running in real time, don't have that luxury, according to Digital Foundry.
Plus, no matter which way you do it, there will always be lag and latency, as no internet connection is 100% stable even 80% of the time...
Hellsing321
Member
Microsoft won't see a dime from sales of the PC version. Only money they saw from me was when I bought Windows 7 years ago.
Most MMO's, games like Planetside 2 that rely on dedicated servers in general ect.
"The Cloud" is just software that optimises the use of server clusters. It's not something restrictred to the Xbox One nor is it something new, especially on PC.
The new thing is that MS is finally leveraging dedicated servers for MP games on live. That's a huge improvment over the P2P shit of last gen.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
More like the tone and fuel it implies for conversation not really productive to this thread.
I'm seeing more of it in the last few weeks. People need to get their emotions under control.