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Fighting Games Weekly | June 3-9 | Getting Put On Blast

Doomshine

Member
Just caught up on the Tekken Revolution thing. Sounds like it could be a success, sounds pretty boring though, not really ballsy or anything either. And of course it sounds like a nightmare model for TOs and fighting game enthusiasts. Maybe it'll have an option for TOs, who knows.

I don't think it's meant for tournaments at all.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
Well it's that and "I'm paying for online it has to be better why else would I be paying for it!?"

Not just the wireless.
I heard Japanese fighting game players prefer XBL since paying for the service means you probably pay for faster internet speeds. I think Kim1234 told me that when I went to Japan, but I'm not sure.
 
Well it's that and "I'm paying for online it has to be better why else would I be paying for it!?"
Not just the wireless.

But damn I really wish people that played fighting games would invest in a ethernet cord. Even if it's on the other side of the house just buy a long ass one plug it in when you use it and put it away when you are done. I did this for 2 years.

Or grab yourself an Ethernet Over Powerline kit, as they are awesome.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Honestly I don't think anybody's going to lose any sleep if TR ends up being non-tournament viable.
I don't think it's meant for tournaments at all.
More of an issue where if it does much better for them than TTT2 or T6 ever did, what it would hold for the future of the franchise for the fighting game enthusiast. Slowly over time features for the core becoming afterthoughts, or being shoddily implemented because of them prioritizing building and optimizing an online/F2P framework.
 

Kioshen

Member
More of an issue where if it does much better for them than TTT2 or T6 ever did, what it would hold for the future of the franchise for the fighting game enthusiast. Slowly over time features for the core becoming afterthoughts, or being shoddily implemented because of them prioritizing building and optimizing an online/F2P framework.

What more features can they skip ? The only thing most offer are Arcade, bare bone Training, Trial, offline Versus, Online Ranked, Online Endless. The only way is up at this point !
 
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Deleted member 13876

Unconfirmed Member
Isn't the reason that fighting games don't have robust tutorials is because VF/Sega patented it? I swear we have had this discussion before.

On the same note MOBA tutorials are god awful as well. I think DOTA 2's plan is to make a robust one but right now it's non existent.

That's a prime example of patent law bullshit.
 

gutabo

Member
I heard Japanese fighting game players prefer XBL since paying for the service means you probably pay for faster internet speeds. I think Kim1234 told me that when I went to Japan, but I'm not sure.

Here in the 3rd world we've done plenty of testing with wired ps3 and 360 and lots of locations/people and for everyone involved 360 was superior/had less lag. Just saying.
 

kick51

Banned
I have an ethernet cable going across my apartment and don't play unless it's a solid 5 bars. I'm on PS3 now, but had a 360-- 360 online for UMVC3 was undoubtedly better. It might also have to do with the stages that get frame drops anyway, which people always pick (they like their all black teams on dark stages.)

Sometimes Marvel does that thing where it's less than 5 bars for a second, then goes up to 5 bars...I'm not sure but it always seems like those matches play like the first result they give (less than 5.)
 

Doomshine

Member
Is there an active fighting game with no tournament support?

I don't know, is there anything like this out there? With them talking on twitter about attracting new and non-fighting game players, the stats, not having all characters e.t.c. I just don't see this being a traditional tournament game.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
Did you laugh at him? I would have laughed at him.

Here in the 3rd world we've done plenty of testing with wired ps3 and 360 and lots of locations/people and for everyone involved 360 was superior/had less lag. Just saying.
Makes sense to me that someone who has enough money to pay for a service is more likely to have the money to pay for better internet. That isn't to say that 360 online is inherently better than PS3 online; just that the people who have 360s happen to have better connections than the people who have PS3s.

That being said, gaming on wireless (especially fighting games) is terrible.
 

xCobalt

Member
I don't know, is there anything like this out there? With them talking on twitter about attracting new and non-fighting game players, the stats, not having all characters e.t.c. I just don't see this being a traditional tournament game.

Yeah. I'm just not too certain about its longevity if there's no tournament support.
 

Doomshine

Member
Yeah. I'm just not too certain about its longevity if there's no tournament support.

Maybe they'll do their own community stuff online, like they've done with the card game. Different competitions, teams and stuff like that. I don't know, hopefully all this will become clear in the following days.
 

Deps

Member
T6 has been dead for years and that game still has players online. TR will do fine without tournament support.
 

Shouta

Member
Xbox being better than PS3 online is a really silly myth that should stop because the one that needs to be blamed are the developers.
 
Or grab yourself an Ethernet Over Powerline kit, as they are awesome.
Oooh never heard about those. Might have to pick one up. Right now I have an ethernet cord going in to a switch for the 360/ps3 since my router/computer are in another room.

Xbox being better than PS3 online is a really silly myth that should stop because the one that needs to be blamed are the developers.

Yea capcom is ass w/ developing for the ps3. You would think after 7 years they would their shit together.
 

Doomshine

Member
Harada asking Inafune about the future of Mega Man

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Well it's that and "I'm paying for online it has to be better why else would I be paying for it!?"
Not just the wireless.

But damn I really wish people that played fighting games would invest in a ethernet cord. Even if it's on the other side of the house just buy a long ass one plug it in when you use it and put it away when you are done. I did this for 2 years.
That too!
 

Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
Namco has 2 iirc. One patent is the ability to play a minigame during a load screen and the other is something fighting game related. I forget what but it doesn't seem like a big deal from what I remember.

Skullgirls has one of the best tutorials and look at how many people play that game.

Sega afaik doesn't have any type of patent on their tutorial. Namco has a patent on the way they do their move lists (being able to press a button to show a demo, etc.)
 

gutabo

Member
Makes sense to me that someone who has enough money to pay for a service is more likely to have the money to pay for better internet. That isn't to say that 360 online is inherently better than PS3 online; just that the people who have 360s happen to have better connections than the people who have PS3s.

That being said, gaming on wireless (especially fighting games) is terrible.

90% of the testers owned both ps3/360. I did too and I had the same results. Most of us had only the console plugged to the router for the tests. I was a naysayer until I ran some test with a friend close to my place who had the same internet speed/setup(and even router) as I did and the lag was more noticeable while using the 360. We even tested with different accounts created using different home regions. We all are now very convinced that the online play using 360s is better than the online using wired PS3(also lol@wireless ps3).

The worst for me was when I participated in an SF4 online ranbat(PS3), I made it to winners finals and I couldn't connect with my opponent. We tried several times, I restarted my router a number of times(NAT type 2 everytime and the PS3 being the only device connected to the router) and in the end I had to take an L and went to losers finals. Same story there, I ended up 3rd without playing. I didn't bother to watch the streamed grand finals nor did I join the ranbat again.

Of course this is all anecdotal evidence.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
90% of the testers owned both ps3/360. I did too and I had the same results. Most of us had only their console plugged to the router for the tests. I was a naysayer until I ran some test with a friend close to my place who had the same internet speed/setup(and even router) as I did and the lag was more noticeable while using the 360. We even tested with different accounts created using different home regions. We all are now very convinced that the online play using 360s is better than the online using wired PS3(also lol@wireless ps3).

The worst for me was when I participated in an SF4 online ranbat(PS3), I made it to winners finals and I couldn't connect with my opponent. We tried several times, I restarted my router a number of times(NAT type 2 everytime and the PS3 being the only device connected to the router) and in the end I had to take an L and went to losers finals. Same story there, I ended up 3rd without playing. I didn't bother to watch the streamed grand finals nor did I join the ranbat again.

Of course this is all anecdotal evidence.
The only games I would test this with are SCV/BB/TTT2/Skullgirls

It's known that capcom games netcode on sony stuff is garbage. *as well as their coding of the games*
 

gutabo

Member
The only games I would test this with are SCV/BB/TTT2/Skullgirls

It's known that capcom games netcode on sony stuff is garbage. *as well as their coding of the games*

Oh I forgot about that, back when we did those tests it was only with SF4 because it was the only game available at the time, there was still no marvel/other games that we were interested in. There also was HDR but only a couple of us were into it.
 

kick51

Banned
Xbox being better than PS3 online is a really silly myth that should stop because the one that needs to be blamed are the developers.



I guess my experience has been biased by only playing Capcom games (and occasionally TTT2) online whoops!
 

Dahbomb

Member
Yea smartphone garbage most probably. Even if it's a real game it's not like this is some godly classic game.

If this is some Kinect exclusive game I would fucking LOL!
 

Horseress

Member
Yea smartphone garbage most probably. Even if it's a real game it's not like this is some godly classic game.

If this is some Kinect exclusive game I would fucking LOL!

With Shaq himself demonstrating it on stage tomorrow! That would be the best thing ever
 
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