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Gamestop PS4 preorder reserve slots more than double of XB1?

Sweenix

Banned
My girlfriend who is the manager at eb games in perth "australia" took in 42 PS4 pre orders to 3 Xbox one pre orders yesterday lol
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
As of now, my gamestop is 18 XBones and 94 Ps4 allocations.

Heard similar report, one store for a bunch of additional ps4s yesterday

That is really insane, can't believe how big the allocations are.

XBox One packaging will probably be twice as big as PS4, with the console size difference and Kinect. Stores won't ever be able to display as many Xbox units and I wonder if that could affect storage and orders as well.

I didn't even think of that, hah.
 

Replicant

Member
I suggest people reserve judgement....Microsoft has DEEP pockets and they will not let this fail or be outdone.

They are going to market the crap out of it. Expect to see XB1 ads on television, magazines, busses, billboards, cereal boxes, soda cans, chips, etc. The only caveat is they won't dare mention that it requires online or that it has used game restrictions

That's why we have to continue warning as many people as we can about this. Use channels that MS can't control. Your social media, your blog, your tumblr, livejournal, etc. These are areas that no matter MS wish, they have no control over. If you are at uni and actively participating at social club, make sure they too are aware of this.
 
That's why we have to continue warning as many people as we can about this. Use channels that MS can't control. Your social media, your blog, your tumblr, livejournal, etc. These are areas that no matter MS wish, they have no control over. If you are at uni and actively participating at social club, make sure they too are aware of this.

Can't wait to see if microsoft sends out C&D letters lol
 

Replicant

Member
Can't wait to see if microsoft sends out C&D letters lol

Let's publish those too. Show the world what vile company they really are.

Can't wait for the nomination for the worst company in the US too. EA maybe lucky this time around and have to hand the crown to MS.
 
If Microsoft has all the money in the world, why did they only moneyhatted exclusives like Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Ryse, and DLCs?

I'm starting to think moneyhats doesn't make that much of a difference. Titanfall will probably be on the PS4 in the future anyways.
 
If Microsoft has all the money in the world, why did they only moneyhatted exclusives like Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Ryse, and DLCs?

I'm starting to think moneyhats doesn't make that much of a difference. Titanfall will probably be on the PS4 in the future anyways.

their core gamers to them based on data research probably.
 
I suggest people reserve judgement....Microsoft has DEEP pockets and they will not let this fail or be outdone.

They are going to market the crap out of it. Expect to see XB1 ads on television, magazines, busses, billboards, cereal boxes, soda cans, chips, etc. The only caveat is they won't dare mention that it requires online or that it has used game restrictions

They can only sell as many systems as they produce. CBoaT has said yields are poor so unless they downclock it basically means they won't have the stock compared to PS4 anyway. The only way for them to increase capacity otherwise is to buy up more wafers from the fab, which might not be possible this late in the day without punitive pricing by going directly to the other fab customers who have a bit of spare capacity. It's getting pretty late in the day for that though, the foundry will need to lock those orders in pretty soon now for November delivery.
 
If Microsoft has all the money in the world, why did they only moneyhatted exclusives like Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Ryse, and DLCs?

I'm starting to think moneyhats doesn't make that much of a difference. Titanfall will probably be on the PS4 in the future anyways.

Moneyhatting is going to be more expensive going for them if the PS4 sells like crazy, paying for the PS4 versions that won't be released gets a lot more expensive when there are a lot more PS4's around than previously estimated.
 

Usobuko

Banned
This gen might not last so long after all.

What are the chances for Microsoft to show a new console after 4-5 years in an attempt to gain a headstart again?
 
I think the WSJ said today that Sony was raising their revenue expectations because of the strong reaction the system was getting at E3 but that they (WSJ) had doubts that Sony would be able to meet the demand.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Anyone pre-ordered a console at shopto before?
How are they?
 
I think the WSJ said today that Sony was raising their revenue expectations because of the strong reaction the system was getting at E3 but that they (WSJ) had doubts that Sony would be able to meet the demand.

wonder when they raised it they under estimated with units already being produced. or when they raised it they may be able to get more systems out.

This gen might not last so long after all.

What are the chances for Microsoft to show a new console after 4-5 years in an attempt to gain a headstart again?

would they last that long with the xbox one? we'll just have to see.
 
Moneyhatting is going to be more expensive going for them if the PS4 sells like crazy, paying for the PS4 versions that won't be released gets a lot more expensive when there are a lot more PS4's around than previously estimated.

Agreed. I hope this practice of moneyhatting stops for all 3 console makers. If it's minimized I'll be alright with that.
 
Do you think it would be a good idea to start a retail musing thread for pre-orders? I don't know whether we still do them or not.
 

IMBored

Member
This gen might not last so long after all.

What are the chances for Microsoft to show a new console after 4-5 years in an attempt to gain a headstart again?

If the Xbone isn't profitable, I don't think MS will even make a new one. I got the feeling the investors where never big on the idea anyway.
 

marz1988

Banned
buddy works at the gamestop i pre-ordered my PS4 at. Says they only had 8 xbox1's to 50 ps4's. this is a high volume store apparently.
 
From my understanding, the demand is higher. Gamers have been watching this very closely.

True, but I think it has a lot more to do with Xbone's yield issues. Both consoles will likely sell out at launch, it's just that there will be a lot more PS4s available to sell apparently.

After the immediate launch it's not looking too good for the Xbone I'm afraid.
 

Fi Fo Nye

Banned
That's why we have to continue warning as many people as we can about this. Use channels that MS can't control. Your social media, your blog, your tumblr, livejournal, etc. These are areas that no matter MS wish, they have no control over. If you are at uni and actively participating at social club, make sure they too are aware of this.

I think the best way to continually warn people will be by continually asking to borrow their games. If they say their game is for Xbox One and therefore cannot be loaned, tell them they suck, and that you'll borrow the game from someone with a PS4 instead. It could be quite effective at making them feel lonely.
 
If Microsoft has all the money in the world, why did they only moneyhatted exclusives like Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Ryse, and DLCs?

I'm starting to think moneyhats doesn't make that much of a difference. Titanfall will probably be on the PS4 in the future anyways.
CBoat pretty much "confirmed" titanfall is only 1yr timed exclusive. And the developers have openly said they want to be on everything...so yeah...I'll be playing titanfall on PS4 eventually. And since there will be plenty of other games to play, I'll happily wait.
 
This gen might not last so long after all.

What are the chances for Microsoft to show a new console after 4-5 years in an attempt to gain a headstart again?

If PS4 starts outselling XBone 5-1 WW and 2-1 in NA/UK, you can bet your ass MS will have a new machine in 2017 or so. I'm sure Sony would be more prepared for that kind of situation though.
 
If PS4 starts outselling XBone 5-1 WW and 2-1 in NA/UK, you can bet your ass MS will have a new machine in 2017 or so. I'm sure Sony would be more prepared for that kind of situation though.

If that happens I think Microsoft will just raise the white flag and flog the division to Samsung. Investors have always hated the Xbox division.
 

eXistor

Member
Our store is at 4 times as many PS4's at the moment, but pre-orders opened in februari. I'm not expecting much to chance as far as ratio goes.
 

Zoe

Member
XBox One packaging will probably be twice as big as PS4, with the console size difference and Kinect. Stores won't ever be able to display as many Xbox units and I wonder if that could affect storage and orders as well.

They'll have to stack them on top of the toilet instead of just around it.
 

DC1

Member
If the Xbone isn't profitable, I don't think MS will even make a new one. I got the feeling the investors where never big on the idea anyway.
Your right in that the investors never wanted them to get into the game to begin with. But then that XB Live money begain to flow.

They will be back.
 

gazele

Banned
Sorry if this has been asked already, but how do these launch allocations line up with last gen numbers? (360, ps3, wii)
 
Why Samsung? Are they interested in having a gaming division?

They're interested in competing with Sony at as many levels as possible and given that they make TVs and other electronics they have the vertical integration possibilities that Sony also have.

Could this be an indicator of the suggested unannounced subsidized models or do all signs point to simple low stock?

Low stock. A subsidised edition would have been announced at E3. They would have wanted the sticker price boost of $299.
 
They're interested in competing with Sony at as many levels as possible and given that they make TVs and other electronics they have the vertical integration possibilities that Sony also have.



Low stock. A subsidised edition would have been announced at E3. They would have wanted the sticker price boost of $299.

Samsung is Buy N' Large for South Korea. They are over 10% of their GDP. If it has electronics in it, Samsung likely wants to compete.
 

Xater

Member
I hope this anecdotal evidence will also be reflected in real sales numbers. It would be great if MS falls flat on their nose with their bullshit. Probably the first time ever where I actively hope one console fails.
 
Anyone pre-ordered a console at shopto before?
How are they?

I don't know about consoles, but they are my favourite online retailer for games. I must have bought something like 15 games from them and a bunch of PSN/XBL codes. I'm from continental Europe and I got some launch games something like 2 days after launch, since they ship earlier for the customers out of UK because of shipping delays. In contrast, my PlayAsia shipments took 15-20 days to arrive. And I never paid customs duty on Shopto stuff, while I did on 1 of the 2 games I bought from PlayAsia. I know a bunch of people who bought a lot of stuff from Shopto and everybody loves them. The only issue they had was one time when their security certificate got breached and people's CC info got stolen. I know one person who had a lot of money stolen in that incident, although Shopto claimed that was their payment processing company's fault.
 

BadWolf

Member
I hope this anecdotal evidence will also be reflected in real sales numbers. It would be great if MS falls flat on their nose with their bullshit. Probably the first time ever where I actively hope one console fails.

Ditto, I usually just root for a console to win but this time I seriously want the X1 to fail hard.
 

Striek

Member
Its a little hard to believe some of the numbers been thrown around in here. They're really high.

The Wii had a preorder limit of 50 units per store and the PS3 16.
 

ckohler

Member
Another confirmation here. I heard 12 reservation slots for Xbox One and 24 for PS4.

Two of the three Gamestops in my area were sold out of PS4 Wednesday but I was lucky enough to snag one at the third store which must have been overlooked by preorderers.
 

Fi Fo Nye

Banned
Looks like everybody's Xbox Live friends will all be moving over to that $399 console that won't be sold out before it even reaches stores.
 
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