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Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 2 - The Final Eight Episodes - Sundays on AMC - OT2

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Courage

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That sounds awful. No offense.

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Servbot24

Banned
I really wish this season had a few more episodes. Not just because I want more, but I feel like they really needed more time to flesh everything out. Still a great season though.
 

Erico

Unconfirmed Member
Oh I know that. Walt loves the hat. The scene felt more out of place than other times Walt has played around with it.

It was intentional misdirection:
Hey, Walt brought the hat! Aw yeah, it's Heisenberg time! You got the buildup with the music and stylish shots of putting the hat on, and bold strides to the gate.

Then the cold, the snow, the remoteness hits Walt, and he's brought back to reality. It's a long way from home and he knows he can't Heisenberg himself out of this hole. And he may be too psychologically weary and defeated to do so. He shuffles meekly back to the cabin.

Heisenberg is dead. All that's left is a broken Walter White.
 

terrene

Banned
My finale predictions:

  1. Walt uses his newfound leverage over Grey Matter to try to get his money to his family. Knowing his family would never take it from Walt directly (since it's dirty/cops are all over them), Walt blackmails GM into giving Walt's money to the family, perhaps as part of his will, under the guise of some cover story (unexercised stock options, etc), effectively laundering it in one lump sum.
  2. Walt requests a meeting with Lydia to offer his services one more time, and uses her love of stevia against her, replacing it with the ricin.
  3. Walt creates explosives to deal with the nazis. He uses the M60 to fire fulminated mercury at their compound, smashing it to bits, freeing Jesse in the process. Walt then enters the compound searching for his money, and instead bumps into Jesse, who kills him.
  4. Todd was not at the compound during Walt's attack, and instead is out doing a hit on Skyler. He succeeds.
  5. Walt Jr and Marie are the only ones left of Walt's family who are alive. Walt Jr. knows where the "Grey Matter" money is from and refuses it. He and Marie are left to figure out how to take care of Holly. End of series.
 

Vire

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My finale predictions:

  1. Walt uses his newfound leverage over Grey Matter to try to get his money to his family. Knowing his family would never take it from Walt directly (since it's dirty), Walt blackmails GM into giving Walt's money to the family, perhaps as part of his will, under the guise of some cover story (unexercised stock options, etc), effectively laundering it in one lump sum.
  2. Walt requests a meeting with Lydia to offer his services one more time, and uses her love of stevia against her, replacing it with the ricin.
  3. Walt creates explosives to deal with the nazis. He uses the M60 to fire fulminated mercury at their compound, smashing it to bits, freeing Jesse in the process. Walt then enters the compound searching for his money, and instead bumps into Jesse, who kills him.
  4. Todd was not at the compound during Walt's attack, and instead is out doing a hit on Skyler. He succeeds.
  5. Walt Jr and Marie are the only ones left of Walt's family who are alive. Walt Jr. knows where the "Grey Matter" money is from and refuses it. He and Marie are left to figure out how to take care of Holly. End of series.

Not enough Xanax in the world if this happens
 

terrene

Banned
I can't see Todd killing Skyler or snapping unless he sees Lydia die.

He killed Andrea for pretty much no reason so I don't see why. Seeing his one true love so distraught about Skyler's continued existence that she couldn't enjoy her (totally nasty-sounding) tea with soy milk + Stevia probably broke his tiny heart.
 
I think Todd respects Walt more than he likes Lydia otherwise he would have killed her the second she went to the police and talked. Oh and its great to be back for the finale. These last string of episodes since Tohajilee (which I thought was great and had little problems with the little things) have been god tier. The thing I think Breaking Bad succeeds in that The Shield felt somewhat lacking is the cinematography. The Shield just feels somewhat cheap in comparison even though I think the actually plot driver for the final episodes of Shield might be more compelling.
 
My finale predictions:

  1. Walt creates explosives to deal with the nazis. He uses the M60 to fire fulminated mercury at their compound, smashing it to bits, freeing Jesse in the process. Walt then enters the compound searching for his money, and instead bumps into Jesse, who kills him.

I don't think that's how fulminated mercury works. Or guns.
 

Joco

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My god, that ending. When he's just sitting there watching Elliott and Gretchen dismiss his contributions to Gray Matter, and you can tell the rage is steadily building up within him - and then when the theme song starts playing - absolutely amazing. I probably looked like a fool watching it as I'm sure I had one huge ass grin on my face while saying "Yes! Yyyyeeessss!!!" knowing that shit is going to go down in this finale, and it's going to be awesome.
 

inm8num2

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He killed Andrea for pretty much no reason so I don't see why. Seeing his one true love so distraught about Skyler's continued existence that she couldn't enjoy her (totally nasty-sounding) tea with soy milk + Stevia probably broke his tiny heart.

There was a pretty big reason for killing Andrea, actually. The Nazis put her picture in the lab to tell Jesse that if he didn't cook or tried to escape they'd hurt her and/or Bmineral.

Jesse tried to escape, so the Nazis killed Andrea to punish him. Then Jack reminded Jesse that there's still a boy left.
 
Content Round Up - Episode 7 - Granite State

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Videos
Reviews

Other Content
- AMC Q&A - Laura Fraser (Lydia Rodarte-Quayle)
- Warming Glow: ‘Breaking Bad’ GIF Highlights: Granite State
- THR: 'Breaking Bad' Winner Anna Gunn Doesn't Care About Skyler 'Haters'
- Variety on Anna Gunn's Emmy win
- LA Times: Emmys 2013: Breaking Bad' wins best drama series
- Variety: Vince Gilligan Credits Netflix for AMC’s ‘Breaking Bad’ Surviving, Thriving
- NY Mag: Ever Wanted To See Breaking Bad in Dance Form? Watch This Crazy Emmys Number
- Access Hollywood: Breaking Bad Stars Talk Finale: ‘It Gets So Much Crazier!’
- Breaking Bad Insider Podcast
- Sports Illustrated: Last Night’s Breaking Bad Featured a Classic College Hockey Game from 1998
- More info on the Breaking Bad painting that was briefly mentioned on Talking Bad last night.
- Time: Breaking Bad: What Does That Phrase Actually Mean?
- Damon Lindelof for NY Mag: How Heisenberg Is Like Batman
- 'Breaking Bad' Hits New Highs In Penultimate Episode With 6.6 Million Viewers
- The Internet’s Best Breaking Bad Supercuts
- Rolling Stone Interview: 'Breaking Bad''s Skyler: 'The Chickens Do Come Home to Roost'
- Daniel Walters: How Breaking Bad redeemed its worst mistakes
- Slashfilme: 10 Things We Learned From 'Breaking Bad' S5E15 “Granite State”
- NY Times Dealbook: The Gray Matter of Charity (fake article referenced by Charlie Rose last night)
- EW: 'Breaking Bad' writer talks last night's episode, 'Granite State', and what it is that Walt has become
- Sepinwall and Bill Simmons talking BB on this week's B.S. Report (podcast)
- Variety: ‘Breaking Bad’ Writer Peter Gould on Penultimate Episode — ‘What Hell Looks Like’
- NY Mag: Breaking Bad’s Peter Gould Talks ‘Granite State’
- Lots of Breaking Bad discussion on this week's Grantland Hollywood Prospectus podcast
- TV Guide interview with Peter Gould
- THR: 'Breaking Bad' Director on 'Painful' Scenes, a Big Reshoot and Rooting for Walt Again (Q&A)
- New set of BB posters going on sale at the store Tuesday
- THR: 'Breaking Bad's' 'Disappearer' on His Secret Role: Even My Family Didn't Know (Q&A)
- Maureen Ryan and Ryan McGee talk BB for a while on this week's podcast

Reminders
- The finale is scheduled for a 75-minute time slot. Presumably it will run about 53 minutes of content and the rest will be commercials.
- AMC is airing every single episode of BB starting Wednesday night. Details.

 

terrene

Banned
I don't think that's how fulminated mercury works. Or guns.

Yeah it kind of is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition

Wikipedia said:
Tracer rounds may also ignite flammable substances on contact from a nominal distance.

Basically, I'm thinking he either spreads the mercury around the compound and uses these to blow it, or he uses the impact of the bullets to give the flare "contact" to mercury that is inside a modified round. Hey, it could work for the show; not saying the science is dead-on. Either way, that compound is obviously Walt's target. It has his money and the nazis in it. It's going down. With explosives, which we know Walt can make. Somehow. And Walt has a portable canon. It only makes sense, no?
 
My official prediction for the finale is this: (spoilering to be safe):

Walt takes the ricin himself, then reveals himself to the media/cops (this could be why he's so casual with Carol), and proceeds to lead them to Jacks compound. Once there, he destroys the nazis, on camera for all the world to see, ends the meth empire himself, then dies from the ricin, forever being remembered as the badass Heisenberg. Jesse is rescued as a result of all this but I'm not sure where their final confrontation fits in.

Obviously some details need to be fleshed out, but I like the overall idea.
I like this possibility.

But it does nothing to save his wife or give his children his money so ... nope not possible.
 

Lautaro

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My theory:

He's going to threaten to implicate Gray Matter unless they give money and legal support to his family. He doesn't even need evidence for that, he just need to make a public video and their shares are going to be worthless... then after this is settled, he'll go after the neonazis (not for redemption, just vengeance).
I'm calling it NOW!
 
Alright, everyone else is doing it, I'll give it a shot.

A few of my predictions:

* Walt takes the ricin himself, before going in guns blazing to take out the Nazis. He knows he'll either be killed or captured if he fails.

* Walt has no idea that Jesse is still alive when he goes in guns blazing. Even tho that relationship is pretty much over at this point, I still don't think Walt is capable of killing Jesse himself and I don't think he blames him for Hank's death and his money being stolen anymore. That's all on Jack. They work together to kill them all, after Walt gets in a bind and Jesse comes to his rescue. Its his only chance to get out of there, so they work together, one last time.

* Jesse kills Todd, shoots him or stabs him in the neck or something right as hes getting ready to kill Walt.

* After Jesse and Walt escape, Walt tells him to go to the police and tell them everything. Where Heisenberg and the money is, in exchange for Jesse's freedom.

* Saul didn't go through with the whole disappearing thing and cuts the deal for Jesse that gets him out of trouble in exchange for Heisenberg.

* Walt secretly leaves Jessie enough money for a new life after hes dead.

* Final scene is Jessie hopping in the van, ready to start a new life.

Yes, I'm going for the happy ending.
 
I do have an issue though. The idea that he could just sit in a Denny's in the flash forward in ABQ and no one would recognize him seems a little far fetched when he is one of the most wanted men in the country.

Also I really hope the final confrontation is grounded somewhat and isn't some Rambo scene people seem to be wishing for.
 

Shrennin

Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
But it does nothing to save his wife or give his children his money so ... nope not possible.

Walt still might try to save Skyler, but I think he's given up on giving his family the money. Louis was his last chance and now Walt wants to get revenge on Todd, Jack, and his crew. They took his family, his money, and his product so he's definitely going to go out taking them out. Well, not definitely. This show is notorious with twisting expectations.

My predictions:

(1) Walt is planning to give the ricin to Lydia. There's no need for Walt to use the ricin on himself, as he's dying.
(2) I think Lydia dies before Walt goes after Todd and crew. This is when we might see Todd get emotional. Or maybe not.
(3) Everyone dies except for Skyler, Walt Jr., and Holly but Skyler is going to get blamed for Walt's crimes so the family is still broken and Skyler's fate may be just as bad as her dying.

That's all I got for now.
 

AniHawk

Member
episode should start with walt walking down to the nazi compound, and then a flashback to a conversation he had with jack to take care of jesse pinkman, and that what he really meant was to watch over him like a son. and then he stares ahead, remembering something as we flash back to a younger walter white coming home to his family after work, exhausted but happy to see a young flynn. flynn asks him how his day was and we flash back to walt teaching in the class room, explaining various chemical reactions and how change occurs. one of the students (a young jesse pinkman) asks walter how come he teaches chemistry at a high school if he's so smart and there's a flashback to his time at gray matter, where it's revealed elliot comes up with the name. walt says that it's a dumb name and thinks elliot is stupid for suggesting it. he then brings it up to gretchen as though it's his idea and she loves it. elliot is upset with walter and asks why he would stab him in the back like that, and walter has a flashback to the time he was in the army, and an experimental drug caused one of his fellow soldiers to stab him in the back. flash forward to the present, which is actually 1979, and a young walter white dies on the operating table, having hallucinated his entire future. his surgeon? a doctor played by aaron paul.
 
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