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more affordable handsets, perhaps? Nokia tends to cover a wide spectrum of product pricing
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Windows Phone doubles market share in Europe, 1% behind iOS in Germany
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The Abominable Snowman
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I absolutely do, but its a slow news day for anything other than the Government shutting down.
You hold a fair amount of grudge, btw.
SolidusDave
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Mh, I should read more mobile threads because I didn't know market share in Germany is not even 10% for iOS. Definitely felt different.
Go us I guess.
Go us I guess.
100% this, getting one for my christmas for my sister, it has whatsapp and the internet all she needs in a phone.
The 52x line is the real reason for this but its still an amazing value. Wish it was available on more carriers in the US and windows phone runs really well on low spec hardware.
Personally if one was available on sprint I would recommend everybody in my family get one.... they all currently have low spec android 2.x phones and android is horrible for them.
Personally if one was available on sprint I would recommend everybody in my family get one.... they all currently have low spec android 2.x phones and android is horrible for them.
lastflowers
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I assume the strategy is to sell some initially for the price, but have that branch out extensively due to word-of-mouth in regards to the quality.
Funky Papa
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Carriers esentially annihilated iOS just as it was taking off. The iPhone was kind of a status symbol that you could get for "free" and quickly became popular, but as soon as they stopped subsidising it, people dropped it like a bad habit.
Meanwhile, Samsung keeps making a killing with its shitass Galaxy mini.
I really hope that is what is happening and it doesn't turn on them.
Almost brings a tear to my eye!
Blue Ninja
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I've been noticing more and more Windows Phones in public too, here in Belgium. Good.
Eternal Gamer
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I live in Germany and I got a Lumia 520 as my first smartphone. I love it so far, the OS is so smooth. It has been a great complement for my Ps Vita.
Bitmap Frogs
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It's unbelievable the amount of people rocking that POS.
Finally talked to someone who owns a S4 Mini.
It's his first smartphone and he absolutely adores it.
I had to hide my utter contempt for that ugly thing.
Please don't look up profits for Android manufacturers (other than Samsung). It might spark your cognitive dissonance.
It doesn't matter to the health of the platform if someone buys a cheap Windows Phone, because unlike similarly-priced cheap Android phones (or even non-flagship Android phones costing $200-300 off-contract), the Lumia 520 is actually an amazing, almost entirely-uncompromised device.
The interface works smoothly and never slows down, there's no bloatware crapping it up, it has offline maps and turn-by-turn navigation built in, supports hundreds of Xbox-certified games, has a good screen, etc. Only real weakness is the camera and lack of a flash on the sub-$100 520.
Funky Papa
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I can pretty much guarantee you It'll rot out in a couple of months and he'll hate it forever.
I swear to god that thing has an expiration date.
Edit: The S4 Mini is actually rather passable and has some grunt. The previous Minis, however... Good grief.
It's still impressively ugly. I swear someone at Samsung hates aesthetics.
Of course it doesn't help that this dude has like 15 widgets installed. Google should really implement some design guidelines for those.
The 520 is so cheap you could almost buy it just to use the sat nav and as a music player when you stick an SD card in.
It's still 150+ in Germany.
I hate reading all these "Lumia 520 for $80!!!" posts everywhere.
Hurricane_Chris
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I live in Japan and use an iPhone 5 here, but for traveling I could not find a good inexpensive Android phone, so I went ahead and got a 520. Great unlocked phone for an unbelievable price. In fact, if someone wants an iPod touch-like device I'd recommend just getting a 520 device since its much cheaper than the cheapest iPod touch and just as good
It's still 150+ € in Germany.
I hate reading all these "Lumia 520 for $80!!!" posts everywhere.
It was £60 here for a while but I think around £80 is the going rate now as a PAYG upgrade or £105 buying an unlocked one outright.
The US prices are crazy, the 520/521 when it goes for $80 is a fucking steal. Handy for the situations I mentioned or even as a drunk phone, one to take out when you're on the lash so if you drop or lose it at least it's not your good phone.
WP8 is a great OS and is very deserving of increased success in the marketplace. To crack the US on price will be difficult because the phones are so heavily subsidised and the US is so much about mindshare rather than features or quality, hopefully with Microsoft buying Nokia this will help transform windows phones usage in that market.
fizzelopeguss
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lastflowers
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this is exactly what my pops did. His HDD zune finally died out, and needed a new mp3 player. Bought a 520 and a 64gb sd card
If they're losing money on them to gain marketshare they won't be able to do it for long, so it's relevant.
Penguins&PolarBears
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Microsoft is already making billions a year on Android patents (probably over $850M this year and growing exponentially). As long as Android devices keep selling they essentially have an unlimited war chest to spend on the mobile market.
Grudge? How so? I think being happy for stats you don't trust is extremely odd, even if it is a "slow news day."
Wiktor
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Isn't everybody besides Samsung losing money on Android? I doubt Google cares.
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why isn't MS making a really strong play for the corporate market? it seems like a no brainer. Blackberry is choking horribly and MS could try and grab that entire market with close Exchange integration.
Who is to say they aren't? I've seen a good few articles of businesses changing to Windows Phone from BB for their work devices.
I don't think the comparison of Windows Phone with iOS is particularly interesting after all, we're talking about the months prior to a new iPhone. Still, it's probably the rather inexpensive phones helping MS here. And the Nokia brand in Germany. I'm eager to know what'll happen when the brand vanishes.
It's funny that the UK is the European country that's most similar to the US, just like on the gaming side.
Could the rather small market share of iOS in Europe have something to do with Europeans preferring to buy smartphones off contract? Because the iPhone is fucking expensive without it.
It's funny that the UK is the European country that's most similar to the US, just like on the gaming side.
Could the rather small market share of iOS in Europe have something to do with Europeans preferring to buy smartphones off contract? Because the iPhone is fucking expensive without it.
Prophet Steve
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I think most people here still buy phones with contract. I also think it does not matter that a new Iphone is upgrading, instead of gaining a lot of new users most people just upgrade from one Iphone to another one, making no difference in the market share.
Well, the market share in the OP isn't an overall market share, just the share of the three months up to and including August.
Disappointingly for Nokia and Microsoft, the period covers the release of two new Lumia flagships and the quietest period of the year for iPhone sales (due to the annual September refresh). If you can't beat Apple in the summer with new phones, you probably never will.
brotkasten
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Pretty much. Tim Cook himself said that Apple is not interessted in the junk market of electronics and isn't that what most markets outside the US are? While WP gains some % for one quarter (lol), Apple keeps enjoying nice margins and profits and that tickles down to the developers as well, hence the popularity of the platfom amongst the mobile developers. Apple users simply spend more money.
Frankfurter
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WP8 is consistently gaining marketshare, so I'd say we'll just have to wait and see a bit more if/when that happens.
Fortinbras
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We Germans usually don't like anything related to Microsoft so I'm really surprised WP did well in the last months.
I have a Windows Phone but I don't know anyone else who has a Windows Phone.
Wiktor
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European don't favor iPhonem because Apple doesn't have anywhere near as strong brand here to force carriers to take a hit on phones compared to other brands. So carriers subsidize all phones equally. So even on conctract iPhone tends to be a lot more expensive than other top brands.
sankt-Antonio
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This is what you get, Apple, for deactivating push in Germany.
Edit: Oh shit:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/02/...-email-motorola-patent-litigation-injunction/
What a fucking coincidence.
Please activate push again Apple, the court ruling if lifted - please.
Edit: Oh shit:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/02/...-email-motorola-patent-litigation-injunction/
What a fucking coincidence.
THX Apple
Killer app!
abracadaver
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Amazon and Tesco both had it for that price. Seems Amazon is sold out now and Tesco now has them at £230 http://www.tesco.com/direct/search-...umia+920&SrchId=4294967294&_requestid=1024960
They were £220 with Tesco but there was a £20 voucher that could be used with it. I'm not sure what other Tesco vouchers are floating around at the minute. ATIV S is also sub £200.
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