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Japan is lining up again, this time for Pokémon XY!

Let's take a look at software sales for 3DS so far.

The highest title which has been out for 2 years now, has 8 million units sold. (Super Mario 3D Land)

3DS software sales aren't there yet. Hopefully, with Pokemon, Zelda A Link Between Two Worlds and Smash coming, the install base will grow.

New Super Mario Bros 2 saw an absolutely massive drop off (From 30 Million to 6). And probably rightfully so, nothing was added in that game.

so in other words, you have basically confirmed X/Y will break 10 million units easily
seriously, X/Y>3D Land is a lock
 

Vire

Member
You keep using install base as your reasoning...

If you think install base has nothing to do with software sales than you are wrong.

It's not the only reason (as I said I think interest in Pokemon isn't as high), but it's a major reason.

Look at Wii U software sales.

so in other words, you have basically confirmed X/Y will break 10 million units easily
seriously, X/Y>3D Land is a lock

I said it would get 10 million units, putting it 2 million more than the top of all time for 3DS.

What the fuck do you want from me?
 

Tusk

Member
I personally don't care what sells more than what, and not saying this will happen..
But I'd love for X/Y to outsell GTA V, just for the crow that'd follow. :p Silly to be pushy about something like this.
We know the games will do well, is it so hard to leave it at that? Glad to see there are so many people excited for these games.
 

wmlk

Member
Looking at this really makes me wonder why Nintendo don't just make a pokemon rpg for the Wii-U. Yeah, I get it, pokemon is best played on handhelds... But it doesn't change the fact this franchise moves consoles.

It would obviously damage the brand power of the better-selling handheld games.
 

ohlawd

Member
Well, someone mentioned Pokemon on the same line with GTA. And then...............

But people kept feeding >_>

Really? you dont remember the "vita what it could have been" posts? and the "I'm crying" replies? It's not the same but it's certanly as bad

naw I'm immune to those kind of Vita posts. An entire year of weekly Media Create threads does that to you.
 
Let's take a look at software sales for 3DS so far.

The highest title which has been out for 2 years now, has 8 million units sold. (Super Mario 3D Land)

3DS software sales aren't there yet. Hopefully, with Pokemon, Zelda A Link Between Two Worlds and Smash coming, the install base will grow.

New Super Mario Bros 2 saw an absolutely massive drop off (From 30 Million to 6). And probably rightfully so, nothing was added in that game.

As I remember, Mario Kart DS and NSMB were pulling similar numbers to MK7 and NSMB2 before DPP launched. The DS had a pretty rough start that was largely reversed by Pokemon's explosive influence. The other games were given an extremely long time to reach the numbers they did after Pokemon solidified the DS' performance.
 

Fireblend

Banned
I know of at least 10 people in my circle of friends buying this game and considering buying consoles for this game. This never happens.
 

Milennia

Member
These 3ds games ( pokemon and zelda) are 2 of the last big name titles ( the other is batman) coming out before the next gen consoles get released, im sure the people who have already had their fill of gta v will be all over buying some new consoles .
 

kurbaan

Banned
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Really wishful thinking in there. In my experience the High School and college ones should be the same.
 

Vire

Member
Also looking at that 3DS software sales chart, I'm pretty disappointed Fire Emblem isn't even on the list. :/

Oh well. Great game.
 
Let's take a look at software sales for 3DS so far.

The highest title which has been out for 2 years now, has 8 million units sold. (Super Mario 3D Land)

3DS software sales aren't there yet. Hopefully, with Pokemon, Zelda A Link Between Two Worlds and Smash coming, the install base will grow.

New Super Mario Bros 2 saw an absolutely massive drop off (From 30 Million to 6). And probably rightfully so, nothing was added in that game.

Not that I think that there would be any parity between the two, but why are you comparing 7 year old sales of NSMBDS to 1 year of sales of NSMB2? Should it have been expected to sell 20 million copies in a year?
 

Riki

Member
Also looking at that 3DS software sales chart, I'm pretty disappointed Fire Emblem isn't even on the list. :/

Oh well. Great game.

It sold well above Nintendo's expectations, so that's good enough. It was never going to be huge.
 

Vire

Member
Not that I think that there would be any parity between the two, but why are you comparing 7 year old sales of NSMBDS to 1 year of sales of NSMB2? Should it have been expected to sell 20 million copies in a year?

Hell no, but it won't even come close to 30 million lifetime based on its current progress.
 
I was just gonna show up at the game store tomorrow morning ~10 minutes before it opened. This thread has me questioning that now...
I guess I'll take the bus and get there half an hour earlier and hope for the best. It's a small-ish college town so maybe there won't be too many people?
 
Also looking at that 3DS software sales chart, I'm pretty disappointed Fire Emblem isn't even on the list. :/

Oh well. Great game.

To be completely fair it's a small franchise and Awakening is the best selling in the series so far. The franchise has a future because of it.
 

chadboban

Member
Let's take a look at software sales for 3DS so far.

The highest title which has been out for 2 years now, has 8 million units sold. (Super Mario 3D Land)

3DS software sales aren't there yet. Hopefully, with Pokemon, Zelda A Link Between Two Worlds and Smash coming, the install base will grow.

New Super Mario Bros 2 saw an absolutely massive drop off (From 30 Million to 6). And probably rightfully so, nothing was added in that game.

Well since you see using Wikipedia as a good source

New Super Mario Bros. was released by Nintendo in North America on May 15, 2006, in Japan on May 25, 2006, in Australia on June 8, 2006, and in Europe on June 30, 2006.[35] Nintendo did not specify why it chose to delay the game's release in its home market of Japan by ten days, but GameSpot noted that "it stands to reason that the company simply wants a few more days to build inventory."[36] It was given generally favorable reviews, receiving an aggregated score of 89% from Metacritic.[19] Praise focused on improvements made to the Mario franchise, while criticism targeted the game's simplicity. In Japan, over 480,000 units of New Super Mario Bros. were sold on the day it was released and 900,000 copies in the first four days.[37] At the time, it was the best-selling debut for a Nintendo DS game in Japan,[37] but it has since been surpassed by Pokémon Diamond and Pearl.[38] It is Japan's 26th best-selling game in 2008.[39] In the United States, 500,000 copies of New Super Mario Bros. were sold in the first 35 days,[40] and one million copies were sold twelve weeks after its release.[41] It was the 12th best-selling game and the second best-selling Nintendo DS game of December 2008 in the United States.[42] Worldwide,five million copies were sold as of April 2008,[43] and over eighteen million as of March 2009.[44] As of March 31, 2013, the game's worldwide sales have reached 30.38 million.[45]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Super_Mario_Bros.#Sales

Now am I saying that New Super Mario Bros 2 will outsell New Super Mario Bros DS? Of course not, chances of that ever happening again are extremely slim, however you really need to stop comparing lifetime sales of a product that has been on shelves since 2006 to one that has been since 2012. Seriously though, New Super Mario Bros DS showed insane levels of growth between 2008 and 2009.
 

Sandfox

Member
I'm curious as to how this is going to affect MH4's sales on the eshop and retail(when its back in stock of course)
 
Hell no, but it won't even come close to 30 million lifetime based on its current progress.

It sure won't, but Mario's sales aren't indicative of how Pokemon XY will perform compared to its predecessors. We've actually seen games reaching a new high like ACNL or FEA on 3DS despite selling much worse than DS, Wii, or GBA. Pokemon's sales are only held back by the number of copies Nintendo can ship, not by installed base.
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Why are people discussing sales/predictions in a topic about midnight launch lineups and the hype surrounding that? Why not take those discussions to the SalesGAF threads?
 

Vire

Member
Well since you see using Wikipedia as a good source

Now am I saying that New Super Mario Bros 2 will outsell New Super Mario Bros DS? Of course not, chances of that ever happening again are extremely slim, however you really need to stop comparing lifetime sales of a product that has been on shelves since 2006 to one that has been since 2012.

That would require New Super Mario Bros 2 to actually be good to continue to sell like that.
Why are people discussing sales and predictions in a topic about midnight launch lineups and the hype surrounding that? Why not take those discussions to the SalesGAF threads?

Because Midnight Launch threads are usually about the number of people lined up outside? Equating to sales?
 

Alchemy

Member
It sure won't, but Mario's sales aren't indicative of how Pokemon XY will perform compared to its predecessors. We've actually seen games reaching a new high like ACNL or FEA on 3DS despite selling much worse than DS, Wii, or GBA. Pokemon's sales are only held back by the number of copies Nintendo can ship, not by installed base.

The eShop should help with that as well.
 

Vire

Member
It sure won't, but Mario's sales aren't indicative of how Pokemon XY will perform compared to its predecessors. We've actually seen games reaching a new high like ACNL or FEA on 3DS despite selling much worse than DS, Wii, or GBA. Pokemon's sales are only held back by the number of copies Nintendo can ship, not by installed base.

Well there are digital versions this time around...

EDIT: Beaten
 
So they are losing kids as an audience, but the audience that they had before seems to be staying as they grow older?

It could stand to reason that the reason Pokemon's player characters have been a little older as of late (BW and B2W2's protagonists were about 14-16 while X and Y's seem to be roughly of college age -- they live on their own now) is to accommodate their aging audience. To wit, I don't think the younger audience particularly cares who they play as, while older players tend to get a kick out of playing as more fully grown characters in a world they started out as kids in.
 

Exokell

Banned
Do Japanese people love to play the same game over and over? Monster hunter and pokemon sequels have so little difference with their predecessor.
 

ohlawd

Member
Well there are digital versions this time around...

EDIT: Beaten

But that doesn't mean everyone who missed out on retail will run straight to the digital copy, right?
People might hold back altogether until Nintendo gets their shit together and have stock.

Should affect sales, but to an unknown degree.
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Because Midnight Launch threads are usually about the number of people lined up outside? Equating to sales?

Pictures of midnight lineups are not a good indicator of how many sales a game will have.
 

Vire

Member
Pictures of midnight lineups are not a good indicator of how many sales a game will have.

I'm just saying that's how this topic got started.

That and someone threw out the GTAV comparison...

But that doesn't mean everyone who missed out on retail will run straight to the digital copy, right?
People might hold back altogether until Nintendo gets their shit together and have stock.

Should affect sales, but to an unknown degree.

I honestly can't remember the last time I couldn't find a game in stock. Probably World of Warcraft back when it first launched in 2004.
 
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