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Wow actually, they really did have popcorn.
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http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/gen...-tweets-about-this-ps4-stuff-microso-1425587/
Wow actually, they really did have popcorn.
SneakyStephan
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Leadbetter, is that you?
90% (if that is true) it's not 100%.
Sorry, I'm free to choose what I believe and I don't consider cboat posts as a fact. If you considers, there's your problem.
LiquidSolid
Member
Who said they didn't? Xbone games aren't going to be sub-HD because the system isn't powerful enough to display games at 1080p, they're going to be sub-HD because the Xbone is so much weaker than the PS4. It's a way for them to try and close to graphical gap.
They stopped trying to compete and instead worked on being as profitable as possible. This meant pushing Kinect and dropping almost all first party development except for their major franchises.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/gen...-tweets-about-this-ps4-stuff-microso-1425587/
Wow actually, they really did have popcorn.
Popcorn was left on the table when an MS dude dropped the popcorn he was getting after Sony announced the specs (especially RAM) and the release date.
Lol I guess that's that.
I can't even imagine the mindfuck that day. I would have seriously felt ill. Or pure ignorance.
http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/gen...-tweets-about-this-ps4-stuff-microso-1425587/
Wow actually, they really did have popcorn.
BronsonLee
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Done and done.
You. I like you. Bonus points for Nash.
This is entirely possible. But the odds are quite against it. Astronomically so, in fact.
polyh3dron
Banned
CBOAT, your bidet runneth over
Oh and remember when RAM didn't matter, and GDDR5 was basically blast processing? I do.
Oh and remember when RAM didn't matter, and GDDR5 was basically blast processing? I do.
IMO, both Nintendo & Microsoft started out very good with both the Wii & the Xbox 360 from the start of their launches, but ever since 2011, they've been going nowhere but down, & they're still continuing to go down within both Wii U & Xbox One, while Sony, they've been struggling with the PS3 back at it's launch, but since 2009 (September 2009, especially), they've been going up, up, up, & are continuing to go up even further with the PS4.
It's kind of funny how these companies have all switched sides, LOL.
SRTtoZ
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http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/gen...-tweets-about-this-ps4-stuff-microso-1425587/
Wow actually, they really did have popcorn.
Unsalted popcorn because the tears would make up for it.
SRTtoZ
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I'm not saying they didn't, what I'm saying they failed at their job and they failed us techie gamers who want a step up from last gen in resolution.
Because Sony has actually made the investments and built up studios to support their consoles?
BrokenEchelon
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I look forward to XBO fans joining their Wii U bretheren in telling us how it's all about the gameplay and experience next year. Silly things lile resolutions will have never been important to them soon.
Moving goalposts must be so exhausting.
Moving goalposts must be so exhausting.
Neuromancer
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Dreaming up TV/NFL integration and DRM schemes primarily, by the sound of things.
Oh man those posts were crazy. Definitely was not expecting this on a slow Sunday night.
It's all about maintaining balance.
Devilinthiscity
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Everyone believes what he leaks because a huge portion of those leaks, like 90%, are always true. That's why people trust him. You don't have to believe him, but this is why mostly everyone takes it as fact, for the most part.
It's pretty obvious now why a lot of the games aren't 1080p, yeah.
Little bit of both (willful ignorance mixed with the FUD) then.
Oh shit...ok well this thread has done it for me.
I'm a big Microsoft fan and I have been pumped for the xbone since rumors first started. I've had my console preordered for months but I think I'm going to cancel. Investing around $700 in a launch console that has a strong possibility of be being a mess isn't isn't worth it. I've looked past every single problem the xbone has had this year but enough is enough. The risk of picking up an underpowered more expensive xbone at launch is too great.
I'll either get a ps4 at launch or get a wii u now and wait a few months to pick up a ps4 when infamous drops. If I do get an xbone it probably won't be until next holiday if they have fixed a lot of problems.
I'm not sure if I even like cboat but you're a fool if you think he has no insider knowledge and only holds some grudge against Microsoft/xbone. From one junior and loooong time lurker to all of the other juniors, you don't have to think he is infallible but please realize he has a very long history of giving gaf some great inside info.
Finally, thanks to everyone who is making some great points in this thread. So far it has been an excellent of what makes gaf such an extraordinary and wonderful place.
I'm a big Microsoft fan and I have been pumped for the xbone since rumors first started. I've had my console preordered for months but I think I'm going to cancel. Investing around $700 in a launch console that has a strong possibility of be being a mess isn't isn't worth it. I've looked past every single problem the xbone has had this year but enough is enough. The risk of picking up an underpowered more expensive xbone at launch is too great.
I'll either get a ps4 at launch or get a wii u now and wait a few months to pick up a ps4 when infamous drops. If I do get an xbone it probably won't be until next holiday if they have fixed a lot of problems.
I'm not sure if I even like cboat but you're a fool if you think he has no insider knowledge and only holds some grudge against Microsoft/xbone. From one junior and loooong time lurker to all of the other juniors, you don't have to think he is infallible but please realize he has a very long history of giving gaf some great inside info.
Finally, thanks to everyone who is making some great points in this thread. So far it has been an excellent of what makes gaf such an extraordinary and wonderful place.
Let's not act like Sony fans aren't doing this as well any time a certain other platform gets mentioned.
Xbone owners will need the exclusives first. It's going to get interesting when Titan Fall for PS4 gets announced right around the time we start learning about what Sony Santa Monica and Naughty Dog have been up to for 1 of the 2 games they're working on.
BronsonLee
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It's probably more. I can think of very few times CBoaT has been confirmed wrong on something (especially since a lot of the stuff leaked is very long tail stuff). Most of which can easily be chalked up to the crazy shit that is next generation.
But you're not exactly a beacon of virtue by going against the grain here. It's kind of like you're swimming against the current, but you're in quicksand. So either way you're toast
And again, there's not really an agenda there. Dead Rising 3 is an awesome get, as is World of Tanks. There's been plenty of neutral news brought forth.
NoirVisage
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CBOAT speaks truthfacts, setting hotfire to an already burning establishment..it is ambrosia to our earlips, and his bidet doth overflow with sodium from the eye water of the doubters.
CBOAT..
CBOAT..
MY LIFE FOR YOU!
Bringer Of Bacon
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THis is a megaton. I just cancelled my XBone preorer cause of
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Hmmmmmm, if I'm interpreting everything correctly then that's a pretty bold claim and a very general statement. Judging what a console and developers are capable of before the console even releases is reaching a bit far for me. Who knows, maybe this will pan out to be completely true but right now it's impossible for anyone to know exactly how the developers will utilize the hardware in 1 - 8 years from now.
BrokenEchelon
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Certainly. It's fun to watch.
It will be interesting to see how launch plays out.
Thank you for your contribution.
Thank you for your contribution.
Don't worry, it's always better to wait anyways. In my eyes I still have a lot of great games that I haven't played this gen so no need to jump to next gen so early.
LiquidSolid
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Oh okay, well yeah, they did. But then a real games console clearly wasn't part of their plans at that point anyway, the lack of a low level graphics API, use of DDR3, focus on TV, etc. all shows that they wanted to make a multimedia box and games were just another part of it.
Regarding the Titanfall announcement, I expect it around E3 which will likely only be a couple of months after it has released. ND and/or SSM should be revealed at the VGAs.
The Sony First party support is currently a staggering amount of teams, we were discussing this in another thread and looking only at Sony's top tier (SSM,ND and PD) they have 6 teams so with a development time of 4 years per game that is a mega release every 8 months, it's quite astonishing.
Speedy Blue Dude
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Then was is Forza Motorsport 5 having no problems running a fabulous looking game at 1080p, 60 frames on the Xbox One? Is CBOAT sure Ryse and Dead Rising 3 aren't 1080p because maybe, like he stated once, the Xbox One is 6 months behind production?
SneakyStephan
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I wish sega was still in the hardware business (or nintendo made a next gen console hardware wise), then I would be able to look forward to this scenario, instead of have to fear for a sony monopoly.
LiquidSolid
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Wait, which one is that? The PS2? Can't be the PS3, PSP or Vita.
Ohhhhhhh lordy.
It wasn't so bad when it was PlayStation 1 and N64. Gaming was incredible back then.
Lol, damn
Thankfully we have stalwart crusaders who refuse to believe cboat and his huge laundry list of inaccuracies and lies, all three, and take the $500 chance for the rest of us.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Wii U stronger than Xbox One confirmed.
famousmortimer
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The thing is that everyone is right. The specs don't matter. The most powerful console has never won. Most of the world can't tell the difference between 720p/1080p (or 900p, forget about it). 30fps or 60fps?
And then you get into sales. Do they really matter? Is Justin Beiber a better songwriter than Simon and Garfunkle because he sold more records? Is the 3DS with it's low res screen and lower poly count inferior to the vita?
It's all semantics. If you like the games and system you like the games and system and that's all there really is to the entire thing. I think the vita is awesome. Like really awesome. I love the shit out of that thing. Is it selling well? Not at fucking all. Does MK on it look 1/4th as good as MK on the PS3? Nope. Does that make me like the vita less? Fuck no.
Like what you like. Who cares about all of this other shit. There's discussions to be had on places like this where we get into the details on what makes these machines tick or what is causing something to sell more than the other. That's fine. But to base your enjoyment of a device off of these conversations is absurd.
polyh3dron
Banned
Seriously considering canceling this now.. Seeming like a worse and worse value proposition every day.
Oh and regarding the "more powerful console" talk, has the more powerful console ever been much cheaper than the weaker console before, because that's a huge factor here.
Xbone was design to not run games at a set resolution. They built in extra display planes because they knew the console would be under powered.
It works a lot like how Netflix works. When you are low on bw it downgrades the resolution. Will be the same way when you have a lot happening on screen. Xbone will change resolution.
It works a lot like how Netflix works. When you are low on bw it downgrades the resolution. Will be the same way when you have a lot happening on screen. Xbone will change resolution.
BronsonLee
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Well, Ryse is confirmed 900p from Crytek. I played Dead Rising 3 at the Xbox One Tour, and I'm pretty sure it was 720. But there was a - staggering- amount of zombies.
Well lets not get too carried away shall we.
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