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[Harlequin]

No, if it wants to call itself the definitive version, it should be compared to the PC.

Even so the lighting and shaders are still superior to the PC version. As are the cloth physics and the higher poly models.

 

[Tagg9]

So this is a comparison with exactly the same scene from the console version (which is what we should be comparing it to - not the PC version):

I'm sorry, but she did not look like that in the PS3 version. Is that CG or something?

 

[Harlequin]

I'm sorry, but she did not look like that in the PS3 version. Is that CG or something?

The right one is the original console version, the left one is the Definitive Edition.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Hi everyone, I’m Scot Amos, executive producer at Crystal Dynamics. we’re bringing the award-winning Tomb Raider experience to PS4 in the form of Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition.

Wwe took the opportunity to use the increased horsepower of the hardware to create the Tomb Raider we always envisioned.

We had a core team here at Crystal collaborating with the super talented teams at United Front Games (who worked with Square Enix on Sleeping Dogs) and Nixxes (whom Crystal has partnered with since the Legacy of Kain days). Together, we pulled the game apart and painstakingly rebuilt it with enhanced visual fidelity, realism, and a new immersive richness to the world.

Getting our gameplay up to native 1080p meant increasing all of our texture resolutions by over 4x so the details and nuances can be seen in their full glory. However, it’s subtleties like our subsurface scattering technology — how we manage realistic lighting effects through solid/semi-solid matter — that we’re so proud of, which bring a new glow to Lara’s skin. All of these elements working in conjunction drive a much more realistic world than we’ve ever had.
The entire game world — the perilous island of Yamatai — is alive as well. Foliage bends as Lara pushes through it; trees whip in the wind; even cloth moves courtesy of new, more sophisticated physics modeling. Weather effects lash the island with unprecedented levels of venom, and rain particles are dynamically lit as they slice through piercing searchlights. The in-game cast has also enjoyed an upgrade — characters and enemies alike have been enhanced visually, while in-game destructibility has been given additional refinement to increase the sense that you are leaving a mark on this world.

However, as always, it’s Lara who’s the star of the show. As such, one of our boldest changes was to handcraft an all new, even more realistic head and face model for her, taking advantage of the increased power of PS4. This is our first glimpse of our next-generation Lara. We also drastically improved shader and lighting effects, adding dynamic sweat, mud, and even blood for a new level of visual acuity that reacts on Lara in different situations. Objects on Lara’s person like her climbing axe or arrows now independently react to her movements and sway or jostle with an obsessive eye for detail, further adding that nothing was too small for us to tackle.

Lara’s hair now benefits from TressFX technology — her hair strands are independently simulated and interact with environmental effects, as well as react to her every movement, delivering unprecedented, lifelike motion. This all-new Lara is Crystal’s first steps towards the future. It’s a promising, compelling beginning.

posted at the PS blog, all official like.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

posted at the PS blog, all official like.

Damn. I'm hyped.

 

[camac002]

top = pc with tress, bottom = vga trailer (ripped from youtube)

 

[Timu]

posted at the PS blog, all official like.

Sounds awesome.=p

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

top = pc with tress (both pulled from youtube unfortunately)

Is the bottom the definitive?

They went the Elena Fisher Uncharted 3 route, ugh.

I mean, it's not bad it's just the original Lara is the character engraved in my mind when I played the game.

It's kind of jarring.

 

[Xanadu]

full price wow

 

[Alex]

Awkward title billing against the PC version aside, I do like that this is happening, I'd like to see it happen with exclusive titles, though, since I do have a nice PC. Cleaned up 1080p content is something I will never complain about.

Preferably not at 59.99 though, that's kind of just twisting a knife in the wound that is a console launch window.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

I'd play it again when I get the PS4 but please don't update the PC version.

 

[AgentOtaku]

Will this version fix all that's wrong with the game then? Don't think so.

Yup. Couldn't even finish it and sold it back. It was quite the looker on PS3 though for sure.

 

[samar11]

You're underestimating the game, actually. Some of the high-end features in the PC version could cripple the performance, TressFX being the main perpetrator.

Yeah you're right about that, I did a benchmark test a while ago on pc and the fps difference between normal and TressFX was huge. If they don't include TressFX can 60fps be achievable ?

 

[CrovaxPSO]

Is the bottom the definitive?

They went the Elena Fisher Uncharted 3 route, ugh.

I mean, it's not bad it's just the original Lara is the character engraved in my mind when I played the game.

It's kind of jarring.

The Elena comparison is pretty spot on, bleh.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

Priced at $60. :lol

 

[jim-jam bongs]

top = pc with tress, bottom = vga trailer (ripped from youtube)

PC version has more dirt, this is totes not definitive.

You'll be hearing from my lawyers, Square.

 

[googleplex]

Is the bottom the definitive?

They went the Elena Fisher Uncharted 3 route, ugh.

I mean, it's not bad it's just the original Lara is the character engraved in my mind when I played the game.

It's kind of jarring.

Same model, different lighting engine?

 

[Totobeni]

it's funny that they made a big fuss about making her more "realistic" for the awful reboot just make her look like a plastic doll again in this version.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

The Elena comparison is pretty spot on, bleh.

Yeah.

NeveRealm should ask Crystal Dynamics to design 3D models for them because the definitive Lara looks like Wonder Woman!

Same model, different lighting engine?

Definitely not the same model. You can tell they made changes to her. Made her look more like a super model/super hero.

 

[Tapejara]

Don't know if this has been posted yet - or if it's new - but EB Games Canada is listing a Tomb Raider GOTY Edition for current gen.

It's listed at $30 and comes with all of the DLC.

http://www.ebgames.ca/ps3/games/tomb-raider-game-of-the-year-edition/318252

 

[mullet2000]

it's funny that they made a big fuss about making her more "realistic" for the awful reboot just make her look like a plastic doll again in this version.

Right? That's exactly what I thought when I saw her new face.

 

[dragonbane]

Weird that the definitive version doesn't come out on PC

 

[samar11]

Weird that the definitive version doesn't come out on PC

haha

 

[RyudBoy]

The PR lists native 1080p but no mention of frame rate. What if the PS4 version is 60 and XB1 is 30? GAF meltdown incoming.

Serious note, doubt I would buy it if either version is 30fps, especially at $60.

 

[Anteater]

Lara's face in the original was a bit off compared to her cgi model, so glad they're improving it, but not sure how I feel about the new one yet...

That trailer is really cool though

 

[ksdixon]

top = pc with tress, bottom = vga trailer (ripped from youtube)

Top totally wins. Bottom might have better looking shadows in some people's opinion, but the contrast and lights vs darks ratio just seems too heavy handed to me. Her hair is too dark, much like her skin, and overall it seems to loose detail and look more 'fake' to me. Not sure how to describe it properly.

Plus the facial shape/structure just looks messed-up in the next gen version. I'm having a really hard time getting past it.

 

[funkystudent]

Probably makes more sense to go 1080/30 for both versions.

If they made the XB1 version 60fps it would probably be sub 1080 and for a HD update thats a little dumb.



Oh and $60? FUCK OFF.

 

[sekrit]

That's not the Lara who i fell in love with...

 

[Harlequin]

That's not the Lara who i fell in love with...

Which Lara was that? There have been a lot of different iterations. Off the top of my head I can think of at least six but there are definitely more.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

That's not the Lara who i fell in love with...

You mean, it's not the Conan O'Brien's Clueless Gamer Lara!

 

[schuey7]

Maybe its the low quality video but I feel that the pc version looked better?I mean I played it at max settings with ssaa so I'm pretty biased but the lighting did not seem to be an improvement.will have to see more to confirm.

 

[Daingurse]

Don't like Lara's new face.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

Don't like Lara's new face.

Yeah, it sucks. I hope they change it back.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

posted at the PS blog, all official like.

Im a sucker for this game I might double dip

 

[Gherid__lacksGPS]

Such a piece of shit game. Can't believe it gets so much praise. Generic cookie cutter from top to bottom that holds your hand like you've got downs.

 

[Witchfinder General]

The new face may be more graphically impressive but it looks more generic and "Disney-Princess" than the old face.

Still if they do a cheap $5 upgrade for those that own the PC version I'll probably re-play it with the new bells & whistles.

 

[Smether]

Glad I held off on this one. I do expect the $60 price point though, as they want to cash in on the included dlc and updated graphics, which will probably be equivalent to what was available on PC.

 

[Chobel]

posted at the PS blog, all official like.

Getting our gameplay up to native 1080p meant increasing all of our texture resolutions by over 4x so the details and nuances can be seen in their full glory

I think this is a lie, they didn't increase anything, they're using the same textures from PC version.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I wonder if they're using this re-release as an opportunity to testing bed for the Tomb Raider sequel. Maybe new lighting engine, physics, upgraded next gen stuff before TR2 hits. Two birds with one stone. Test plus make some decent scratch during a pretty dry month for PS4 releases.

The PS3 version looks great as it is. I really wanna see some high quality footage to see how the PS4 version looks. If its at least not as good as PC, I will be disappointed.

And why remodel her head? Seems unnecessary but I love that the guy at the VGX was geeking out about it. Camilla Luddington looked so uncomfortable there, haha.

 

[swaggerbot3000]

eh i was half way thru the game when my ps3 died...tempting but 59.99 is kind of a deal breaker for me

 

[quest]

I will definitely double dip when the price drops to a more reasonable level. I liked the game a lot but no enough to pay 59.99 again.

 

[Harlequin]

I wonder if they're using this re-release as an opportunity to testing bed for the Tomb Raider sequel. Maybe new lighting engine, physics, upgraded next gen stuff before TR2 hits. Two birds with one stone. Test plus make some decent scratch during a pretty dry month for PS4 releases.

Didn't the Crystal guy at the VGX pretty much say this? That it was a great opportunity for them to dip their toes into next-gen technology (not in those words but sth along those lines)?

And why remodel her head? Seems unnecessary but I love that the guy at the VGX was geeking out about it. Camilla Luddington looked so uncomfortable there, haha.

Camilla Luddington looks uncomfortable in almost every TR-related interview. You can almost hear her thinking how she hates to be around these weird video game nerds all the time . At least that's the vibe she's giving off.

 

[Fahrenheit]

Loved me some TR on the PC. Will look forward to the PC version still looking better.

 

[jacksepticeye]

She looks weird in that definitive version shot. Her face looks longer and more sculpted or something, like a Playboy model's face. Hard to describe

 

[Quicksilver4648]

While I am glad that console players will be able to see Tomb Raider in all of its potential which I experienced on PC... That new face looks worse that the old one. So far from what I can tell PC maxed out is still the "definitive version."

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Camilla Luddington looks uncomfortable in almost every TR-related interview. You can almost hear her thinking how she hates to be around these weird video game nerds all the time . At least that's the vibe she's giving off.

Damn. That is a shame.

 

[camac002]

So for those that prefer the original Lara face, what do you think of the CG trailer's Lara compared to in-game?

Do you think the new face should have been more like this or not?

 

[Squire]

I wonder if they're using this re-release as an opportunity to testing bed for the Tomb Raider sequel. Maybe new lighting engine, physics, upgraded next gen stuff before TR2 hits. Two birds with one stone. Test plus make some decent scratch during a pretty dry month for PS4 releases.

The PS3 version looks great as it is. I really wanna see some high quality footage to see how the PS4 version looks. If its at least not as good as PC, I will be disappointed.

And why remodel her head? Seems unnecessary but I love that the guy at the VGX was geeking out about it. Camilla Luddington looked so uncomfortable there, haha.

The way the PS blog post is worded makes it sound like this is a test bed, yeah. Sounds like this upgraded model of Lara is pulled from TR2.

 

[jacksepticeye]

Such a piece of shit game. Can't believe it gets so much praise. Generic cookie cutter from top to bottom that holds your hand like you've got downs.

Yeah I don't really get it either, when I played it my first thought was "GAF will tear this apart" yet when I came here at the time everyone was praising it. I think people were smitten by Lara or having TR back or something because it did some incredibly shitty things gameplay and narrative wise

So for those that prefer the original Lara face, what do you think of the CG trailer's Lara compared to in-game?

Do you think the new face should have been more like this or not?

I actually like this version the most, though she looks more Asian and that's probably why

 

[Plywood]

New face =

Ram up the saturation
Add some babyfat
Make the eyes slightly slanted
shape her eyebrows
makeup

and in certain scenes it seems they removed dirt


RIP old new Lara, they couldn't write you a believable coming of age story, so they might as well give you plastic surgery.