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Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

Ok who the hell is Captain Syrup and why does she seem to a have fanbase? What is she to wario? I dont see the appeal to her. Serious question.
 
As I said in the other thread, she was one of my top 4 on my wishlist to be playable. But I guess an AT is the next best thing! Here's to Smash 5!



Why do I have a feeling that this is how he'll show off Waluigi still as an Assist Trophy

Please no :(. Make him playable
 
Ummm was this posted on Miiverse? It looks fake and isn't on the website.


Dr. Luigi is boring, he isn't even wearing a head mirror. Mr. L is the proper Luigi alt.

Mr.L's theme deserves a comeback.

I would find it funny if hew was a character (SPM spoilers)
his final smash was fusing with Dimentio (although that would make me sad cause I want Dimentio as a character, although it isn't likely) and during his transformation he just yelled GREEEEEEEEN
 

Madao

Member
Ok who the hell is Captain Syrup and why does she seem to a have fanbase? What is she to wario? I dont see the appeal to her. Serious question.

she's the boss of the pirates that Wario messes up in Wario Land 1 and 2 and then she helps him in Shake It.

i'm guessing she's considered more important because she was in mainline Wario games and the WarioWare folks are from a spinoff.
 

GamerSoul

Member
Man, I don't care about SSE, but the cutscenes were great just in the fact that you saw all the characters interact, often in ways that made me laugh. Like, you're seeing all your favorite characters just randomly interact, and most of them can't properly speak. There is SO much you could do in their interactions in terms of comedy.

100% agreed. That was the best part of all.

Ok who the hell is Captain Syrup and why does she seem to a have fanbase? What is she to wario? I dont see the appeal to her. Serious question.

i dunno some old pirate lady.
 

Sciz

Member
Ok who the hell is Captain Syrup and why does she seem to a have fanbase? What is she to wario? I dont see the appeal to her. Serious question.

She's the main villain of the first two Wario Lands, and cameo villain of Shake It.

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She's also a pirate.
 

Shun

Member
I want this more than any other Nintendo character/s.

Right?

If Commanding Officers from Advance Wars were to be characters in Smash, I could imagine 3 different play styles for them

1.) Have the Commanding Officer pilot a tank or a mecha much like Tron-Bonne in Marvel Vs. Capcom and derive a moveset like that.

2.) Have them function like Olimar and his Pikmin where the infantry are his smash and aerial moves. He could summon multiple types of infantry and they can provide him different moves for different situations.

3.) Have them be a sole character and their play-style is utility based like Snake. Lets say if Ryo/Andy were to be there character, he'd use his wrench as his main weapon and have explosives and what not be his smash and special. If you've played Advance Wars, a lot of their special abilities could work as moves like Power Wrench, Airlift, and Victory March.

What do you guys think and who do you think would work if Advance Wars was brought in as a character? I personally want Andy and Sami to be AW reps.

 

Village

Member
i'm guessing she's considered more important because she was in mainline Wario games and the WarioWare folks are from a spinoff.

If barely being aknowleged is important than yes.

Also it depends on what you mean by spin off, since the wario ware games seem to be the majority of wario content these days. Its like SMT and Persona you can go all fancy say that Persona is a spin off, and is less important. More people give a shit about persona doe, so doesn't really matter which is which anymore.

Ok who the hell is Captain Syrup and why does she seem to a have fanbase? What is she to wario? I dont see the appeal to her. Serious question.

She doesn't really out side of shake it and places like neogaf. Relatively forgotten wario character.

She is rouge the pirate. That is her stick.
 
Thanks for the responses about Syrup. I just dont see her as a amazing character.....guess ill have to play the games shes in to understand why.
 

ash_ag

Member
Sorry fellas, but there is only other one Wario character that deserves to be playable, and that ain't Captain Syrup or Ashley.

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(Though still very, very doubtful.)

Samurai delivered once again. I was secretly hoping for Dr. Mario / Dr. Luigi alts myself, but considering the only at revealed so far is not even a costume -- and that it's been cryptic to say the least, I suppose there's a chance he wants to show alternative colour/costumes/characters at another point.
 

Azure J

Member
I've always liked Andy and Sami as reps for Advance Wars, I just could never think of how they'd work beyond Sami going full Snake or both of them getting Tron-meets-TvC Doronjo or BB Kokonoe stuff.
 

Mista Koo

Member
Mr.L's theme deserves a comeback.

I would find it funny if hew was a character (SPM spoilers)
his final smash was fusing with Dimentio (although that would make me sad cause I want Dimentio as a character, although it isn't likely) and during his transformation he just yelled GREEEEEEEEN
Agreed, the two Brobot battle themes [1] [2] too.

As for the second part,
Brobot for final smash Super Dimentio for a story mode boss.
 

J-Tier

Member
Right?

If Commanding Officers from Advance Wars were to be characters in Smash, I could imagine 3 different play styles for them

I'm trying to think of a way where it best fits the concept of "commanding officer"

Maybe have a playstyle where they set tiny "buildings" which spawn units to attack. It would definitely be bizarre though.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Wrong.

There is actually one more wario character.

One character that is not only deserving and has a fanbase, but would be one of best representations of nintendo period

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Forgot about this guy. The potential for this kind of character would be huge. Too bad it won't happen.
 
I've always liked Andy and Sami as reps for Advance Wars, I just could never think of how they'd work beyond Sami going full Snake or both of them getting Tron-meets-TvC Doronjo or BB Kokonoe stuff.

ADoronjo style character in my Smash? YES PLEASE <3

Yeah she was my main in TvC, also love using Tron too.

I wanted Sami in Brawl, but now I would be happy with any AW rep, even from Days of Ruin.
 

ash_ag

Member
Also when is wario time?

For some reason, I feel that Wario will be a secret character in Smash For. Although it's also possible there will be no(t many) secret characters this time around, in which case we should wait until Nintendo releases a new Wario Ware/Land. &#128554;
 

Sciz

Member
Thanks for the responses about Syrup. I just dont see her as a amazing character.....guess ill have to play the games shes in to understand why.

She's not that spectacular, but she's got a good design and managed to out-Wario Wario a couple times, so she's memorable, and props up both the villain and female representation on the roster.

That said Smash barely acknowledges that Wario Land exists and she didn't even merit a sticker in Brawl, so throwing her name out there is one of those super long shot pipe dreams that no one realistically expects.
 

Fiktion

Banned
So apparently there was a supposed leak a while back that had Ashley as an assist trophy. I've gone through it, and while there are some things that I don't like, there is nothing that seems especially unbelievable. Except it has fucking K. Rool, which is craziness.

Posting it here because we have nothing better to do. Bolding some of the spicier bits.

Rosalina is the only Mario newcomer.
Waluigi and Toad were at once considered, but Waluigi remains an Assist Trophy, and Toad a move for Peach.
Bowser Junior, Paper Mario and Daisy were never considered. Bowser Junior was planned to be an Assist Trophy, but was scrapped.
Fawful is a new Mario Assist Trophy. He acts like Mr. Resetti, but will attack opponents at random.
Diddy Kong will be the next revealed veteran, to coincide with Tropical Freeze&#8217;s release date.
Diddy is paired with Dixie Kong as a tag-team, similar to Zelda and Sheik. Dixie has a separate moveset from Diddy, but it&#8217;s still being worked on.
King K. Rool is a newcomer, the heaviest character on the roster. He is powerful and can KO light characters with 2 good Smash Attacks. His final smash has him use the blunderbuss and fire cannonballs from the top of the screen while they fly in from the sides as well.

Gangplank Galleon is a stage.
There is a new Zelda character, although it&#8217;s kept a secret so far. The names heard most often are Tingle and Ghirahim.
Ganondorf will be buffed, although he still retains some of C. Falcon&#8217;s moves. He can equip a sword using his Down Special.
Chrom is a Fire Emblem necomer. He wields the Falchion, and does not replace Ike.
Chrom is expected to be revealed to celebrate the anniversary of the first Fire Emblem.
Lyn&#8217;s Assist Trophy from Brawl has been scrapped.
King Gangrel and Aversa are the new Fire Emblem Assist Trophy. Gangrel runs around slicing with his sword, while Aversa flies above using Aversa&#8217;s Night. They are the &#8220;unexpected&#8221; Assist Trophy.
No newcomers for Yoshi or Wario.
Wario&#8217;s overalls are now his default attire.
The Kat & Ana Assist Trophy has been scrapped.
Ashley from WarioWare is a new Assist Trophy.
Ridley is a newcomer, and is scaled down a bit. It was a major feat on the development team.
No new Star Fox characters.
Falco is farther away from being a Fox clone.
Wolf is no longer a semi-clone.
Villager has a female costume.
Mr. Resetti returns as an Assist Trophy.
Tom Nook is a new Assist Trophy. He apparently drops bells across the stage, which causes opponents to trip. (Due to Sakurai saying tripping is removed, it&#8217;s unknown if forced tripping, like this and Diddy&#8217;s bananas will return, or if only accidental tripping is removed.)
Palutena is a newcomer, with her moves based directly off Uprising.
Magnus is a new Assist Trophy, and acts similarly to Little Mac in Brawl.
All Pokemon veterans from Brawl return.
Mewtwo returns.
Mewtwo and Lucario have very different movesets.
No new Kirby characters.
Meta Knight will be revealed sometime in the summer of 2014.
No changes made to the EarthBound series.
All misc. characters return (Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B., Ice Climbers)
Little Mac is a newcomer. He has the look from the Punch-Out!! reboot for the Wii.
The Male Wii Fit Trainer is indeed an alt. for Wii Fit Trainer.
Wii Fit Trainer has a butt attack. It is replaced by a headbutt for the male costume.
King Hippo is an Assist Trophy.
The Ghosts from Luigi&#8217;s Mansion are an Assist Trophy.
Snake returns.
Pac-Man will be the final newcomer. He is a secret character.
 

leroidys

Member
So apparently there was a supposed leak a while back that had Ashley as an assist trophy. I've gone through it, and while there are some things that I don't like, there is nothing that seems especially unbelievable. Except it has fucking K. Rool, which is craziness.

Posting it here because we have nothing better to do. Bolding some of the spicier bits.
That's actually one of the more plausible rumors I've read. No way pacman is the final reveal though, that would be idiotic
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
So neorice if you read this, if you make a ashley sprite I would like to call it incase nobody else did.
 

Kyzon

Member
So apparently there was a supposed leak a while back that had Ashley as an assist trophy. I've gone through it, and while there are some things that I don't like, there is nothing that seems especially unbelievable. Except it has fucking K. Rool, which is craziness.

Posting it here because we have nothing better to do. Bolding some of the spicier bits.

Buff dorf makes me like that list.

I want him as buffed as they can make him without going overboard.
 

Azure J

Member
Having Chrom while having Ike just seems like overdoing it on heavy sword people from FE. Anna pls. It's also funny that adding Takamaru, believing that the "new" Zelda character is Impa, and getting over the improbability that is Mike Jones having a spot in this roster makes that particular rumor almost 1:1 with my most recent conservative roster guess:

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