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Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

So Ashley is an AT.
Can't help but be kinda disappointed she isn't playable.
Also. From the amount of fanart. She seems to be the most popular Wario ware character.
So I don't think Mona or others from Wario Ware have much of a chance to be playable if she isn't. Ah well. Sakurai might surprise us.
 

Village

Member
Hm, wonder why I never tried any. Which ones are amongst the best?.)

uh... All of em.

Which consoles do you have?

well I know you do not have a wii u so Game and Wario is out.

You got

Wario Ware for the GBA and GCN ( GCN is way better )
Wario ware twisted for the GBA with the gyro attachment
Wario Ware Touched for the DS
Wario Ware Smooth moves ( my absolute favorite ) for the Wii
Wario Ware DIY for the DS.

And The aformention Game and Wario for the Wii U .


Fun thing, Mr game and watch makes an odd amount of appearances in the wario series of games.
 

Mista Koo

Member
Yeah, whatever the character would end up being, Unite Morphs have got to be a part of it. There's one really awesome move set that someone made that I found that combines the main Wonderful Ones into one character, and it would the absolute best thing ever if something like this ended up happening: http://smashboards.com/threads/wond...derful-101-thread.327878/page-6#post-16118423
I don't think people want more switching characters, also that move set is too huge and complicated for Smash.
If they do something like that it would be more reasonable to cut Yellow, White and Black and simply map the transformations to the four directions.

I wonder if changing weapons based on the last used B attack used would work. This way you can switch the A attacks but the B attacks will always stay the same, also you wouldn't take out one B move.

Never played a WarioWare title, so who is Ashley and why is she so significant in that she earned an Assist Trophy?

What could she potentially do?
She isn't really, it's just that Japan likes whatever trope Ashley is.
She can do magic things I guess.

I'd recommend the original WarioWare and Smooth Moves.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
So Ashley is an AT.
Can't help but be kinda disappointed she isn't playable.
Also. From the amount of fanart. She seems to be the most popular Wario ware character.
So I don't think Mona or others from Wario Ware have much of a chance to be playable if she isn't. Ah well. Sakurai might surprise us.

I would have helped sakurai come up with a moveset ;_;
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
While it would be cool to see her playable, I understand why she's not. She just isn't a significant enough character.

I dont think she is a AT cause she isnt significant enough, AT mostly relegated to characters that sakurai just couldnt find a complete moveset for, or and I think I read this somewhere, probably an interview, that sakurai didnt have time to add some characters and so made them AT, afteralll issac from the goldensun series was a AT, when there really isnt much of a reason why he was just a AT
 

Werewolf Jones

Gold Member
lol @ people saying they are quitting following Smash because of this news. You should be glad she's an assist trophy she's getting some form of rep in the game. When Ridley is confirmed an assist trophy SmashGAF will melt down because he'll be too big to fit into the capsule but whatever. You just gotta accept Sakurai's decision and have faith.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
Wario Ware DIY had so much potential. ;__;
It's the sequel to Mario Paint I always wanted. :p

Hopefully the sequel will allow for games with button inputs. Despite that I feel its simplicity was necessary. Overwhelming the players with too many concepts can drain the fun from content creation.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
It's the sequel to Mario Paint I always wanted. :p

Hopefully the sequel will allow for games with button inputs. Despite that I feel its simplicity was necessary. Overwhelming the players with too many concepts can drain the fun from content creation.

While I didn't mind the simplicity of the input (though more options are always welcome) I feel the game sharing aspect was held back by the DS.

The simple fact the 3DS has native SD card support and better online, plus things like StreetPass and maybe we can even bring in QR (although I doubt a minigame could be saved as a bunch of black squares, perhaps just graphics) would make game sharing so much better and easier.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
While I didn't mind the simplicity of the input (though more options are always welcome) I feel the game sharing aspect was held back by the DS.

The simple fact the 3DS has native SD card support and better online, plus things like StreetPass and maybe we can even bring in QR (although I doubt a minigame could be saved as a bunch of black squares, perhaps just graphics) would make game sharing so much better and easier.
Ah okay. Yeah, managing them through DS or the Wii was a little complicated. It's really cool they let players "port" their games to Wii at all. :p

Seeing as Wii U has the most options I want DIY2 to end up there. And maybe they can include 3D games and let users paint models, if not actually creating them. The unwrapped cube icon in the sprite editor was a cruel tease. :p
 
What's kind of funny is that perhaps the three most requested newcomers in the West -- Little Mac, Ridley, and King K. Rool -- are among the least discussed characters in Japan. There's very little interest for those three over there.

that worries me :(

also why the k rool hate, he is a very interesting character and one of the few characters missing that was not included in brawl
 

leroidys

Member
I can't sleep so I made a roster. Who am I missing?

bMjjtK4.png


I don't expect Chibi Robo, Andy, or Pac Man to show up, and I'm uncertain about Ridley, Little Mac, and Mii, but other than that I think the guesses are pretty reasonable.
 

Axiology

Member
You guys must be high to think that leak sounds plausible. High!

Especially that part about Ridley. By far the biggest giveaway
 

leroidys

Member
I think I'm going to choose not to believe any rumor that has King K. Rool. Why would they bring him back now after having shunned him for the last 3 DK games?
 
King K Rool? Seriously why would he be in it? Maybe if Tropical Freeze had him but even Cranky Kong sounds more plausible. But if he is in, can we get Wart from Super Mario Bros. 2 too? :D WOuld be glorious.
 
Wrong.

There is actually one more wario character.

One character that is not only deserving and has a fanbase, but would be one of best representations of nintendo period

9-Volt_WarioWare_Twisted.png

I think 9-Volt could be really fun. What if his move set utilised him wielding different Nintendo peripherals, and his special moves incorporated retro sprites and SFX and stuff? He could also use his skateboard as well.

I doubt that'd happen, especially since I'm sure Ashley was the fan-favourite WW character anyway, but no character is really more important than another. I thought Kat and Ana would be a fun tag-team, but Ashley seemed more realistic, and now she's confirmed I doubt we'll see any other WW reps.

Her model looks adorable though. I have every other WW game except Game & Wario because I think they got rid of the Microgames in that one. Maybe I'll pick it up when it's cheap
 
So apparently there was a supposed leak a while back that had Ashley as an assist trophy. I've gone through it, and while there are some things that I don't like, there is nothing that seems especially unbelievable. Except it has fucking K. Rool, which is craziness.

Posting it here because we have nothing better to do. Bolding some of the spicier bits.

I'd be pretty happy with that if it turned out true. All except the lack of any mention of Shulk and Xenoblade rep.
 

BY2K

Membero Americo
Doesn't Rare own the rights to K.Rool and his gang? Which means Microsoft owns those rights now? That would explain why they weren't used since DK64.
 

AppleBlade

Member
So I have never gotten into a Smash Bros. game. Maybe I'll get into this one. Anything about the upcoming Wii U version make it stand out from pervious iterations?
 
Doesn't Rare own the rights to K.Rool and his gang? Which means Microsoft owns those rights now? That would explain why they weren't used since DK64.

I thought Nintendo owned the rights to him, but Retro didnt wanted to use him, cause of respect to Rare? I guess somebody knows exactly whats up and will help us out :)
 

HUELEN10

Member
Doesn't Rare own the rights to K.Rool and his gang? Which means Microsoft owns those rights now? That would explain why they weren't used since DK64.
They most certainly do not; they also have been used many times since then.

Why does this great misconception even exist? You hear it all the time too.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
They most certainly do not; they also have been used many times since then.

Why does this great misconception even exist? You hear it all the time too.

There are some people who think Nintendo had to get special permission from Rare just to use Donkey Kong. :/
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Maybe because Microsoft bought Rare and thought they own Donkey Kong now, until they realized, they do not :-D

Yeah but it's pretty dumb of them to think Nintendo didn't own Donkey Kong when his first game appeared in 1981 whereas DKC was released in 1994.
 
So I have never gotten into a Smash Bros. game. Maybe I'll get into this one. Anything about the upcoming Wii U version make it stand out from pervious iterations?


Aside from things like Mega Man and HD Graphics, not really. They're all great games. I'm sure there'll be something revealed to make it stand out. There's also the likelihood that this will feature proper Online Play.
 

qq more

Member
To be honest, I'm kind of glad because I feel WarioWare would be over-represented with another playable character.

GIVE US WARIO LAND REFERENCES FOR ONCE, SAKURAI

I can't sleep so I made a roster. Who am I missing?

bMjjtK4.png


I don't expect Chibi Robo, Andy, or Pac Man to show up, and I'm uncertain about Ridley, Little Mac, and Mii, but other than that I think the guesses are pretty reasonable.

Shiek is missing
 

Son Of D

Member
That leak is an odd one. Diddy being the next reveal to tie in with TroFreeze was kind of obvious. The Dixie part however isn't. It'll likely be a Zelda/Sheik situation and they'll be shown seperately.

Chrom is expected to be revealed to celebrate the anniversary of the first Fire Emblem.

What date would that fall on? That's the earliest possible validation if the date isn't too far off.
 
Examples?

Kritters/Kremling mooks: Goalkeepers in both Mario Strikers games, Linesmen in Mario Power Tennis, playable in Super Mario Sluggers, a whole variety of playable Kremlings in Wii's Barrel Blast/Jet Race

K.Rool: Appearances in Donkey Konga Trilogy (notably some crummy minigame where you basically whack a mole him), Main villain of both GBA's King of Swing and DS's Jungle Climber, also playable in Sluggers and Barrel Blast/Jet Race

And of course they all have trophies in Smash.

Man I was having to mention all of this back when Brawl was still in development, K.Rool could be made playable and I bet I'll still have to do this for SSB5 or the next DK game where the theory still persists.
Or maybe we'll move onto General Scales for our croc based confusion, who owns the rights?!
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
April 20th is going to be when Snoop Dogg is revealed to be working on the new version of the DK Rap.
 
Yay, Ashley is a cool character and her model looks cool.

Good stuff, good stuff.
Also I'd be happy with a second WarioWare playable rep because WarioWare characters are great.
 
So apparently there was a supposed leak a while back that had Ashley as an assist trophy. I've gone through it, and while there are some things that I don't like, there is nothing that seems especially unbelievable. Except it has fucking K. Rool, which is craziness.

Posting it here because we have nothing better to do. Bolding some of the spicier bits.

If this leak turned out to be true, I would be ok. There are a few things I would change but this isn't terrible.
 
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