travisbickle
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A lot of people didn't expect it to happen this early and especially with cross-generation games. When next-gen starts proper it's going to be another round of fun!!
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MGS Ground Zeroes 'looks slightly better on PS4 than Xbox One' - Kojima
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A lot of people didn't expect it to happen this early and especially with cross-generation games. When next-gen starts proper it's going to be another round of fun!!
Caayn
Member
To be fair a 100+% difference in pixels, such as in CoD, can be called an exception to the rule. The power difference isn't that vast. But otherwise than that, I agree with you.
The narrative stayed on the PS3 for practically the entirety of last gen, so I don't think such threads should be disallowed. If anything, maybe a few years of gamers ribbing on the xbone will change MS for the better.
Also, I see everyone missed the quip about destructible environments. Hnnng
The only real differences are in MS's development tools and ESRAM (which I dont think anyone has said is easier to work with than Sony's straight 8gb of gddr5. In all other respects they virtually have the same architecture, with the PS4 having beefier hardware in every single aspect. I dont think development tools can overcome that, so I dont think its going to be any different than any other multiplat game.
justsomeguy
Member
I was going to suggest the same, but was worried about a) being accused of threadwhining, and b) accused of bias as I work for MS. Anyway IMO (which isn't worth much as a junior and an MS employee
) I agree.That said if there's *specific* detail on how one beats the other, or analysis thereof, it has a place - e.g. 1080p vs. 900p, or unlocked vs. 30fps. A generic "one looks better than the other" is less useful.
I am interested in how TR will impact image quality as engines start to mature, or have we established that PS4 has the same hardware support built in for it that the XBO allegedly has?
bigboss370
Member
Is this the first time a developer is actually talking about a difference in qualitative terms? Before its always just been devs telling us the hard numbers, ie. the resolution and framerate for each console version. But this time its a dev actually saying one version looks better than the other.
SolidSnakex
Member
Man, if the developer already says it looks "slightly" better, image how big the gap actually will be
Well, GI didn't really notice or comment much on the differences between CoD and Tomb Raider, so it may be telling that they noticed the difference between these two versions.
The one who got to see a completed or near-completed versions of the game on final hardware.Which Kojima to believe
http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/m..._power_difference_is_minimal_says_kojima.html
I blame nanomachines.
The big difference being when devs get over the difficulty curve with the PS3 you have parity or do some things better in some areas which generally happened in DF comparisons last year.
There is no higher hurdle to jump over with the Xbox One, the sprinter is just plain slower. But as you say MS getting a ribbing will make them better... hopefully.
The big difference being when devs get over the difficulty curve with the PS3 you have parity or do some things better in some areas which generally happened in DF comparisons last year.
There is no higher hurdle to jump over with the Xbox One, the sprinter is just plain slower. But as you say MS getting a ribbing will make them better... hopefully.
i'm expecting the difference to be more than 'slight', perhaps the usual 720p vs 1080p
he'd never say 'yeah the difference is massive' because it would damage sales and his reputation you don't want xbone players to think they're getting a substandard version of the game
he'd never say 'yeah the difference is massive' because it would damage sales and his reputation you don't want xbone players to think they're getting a substandard version of the game
dead monkey uk
Member
I think he is probably being kind to MS with the word slightly, as the interviewer also said he had already noticed the difference. Xbox sub 1080p is what my moneys on.
Alcoholikaust
Member
they paid for a presentation not a superior version of the gameBut how?
edit: is that even ground zeros? I thought that was for phantom pain-
the_batman
Banned
Ground Zeroes will be included in Ground Zeroes? ok.
i know what you mean, but what if it's not included?
Which Kojima to believe
http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/m..._power_difference_is_minimal_says_kojima.html
The one who already spent the moneyhat he was given to say that.
Ein Bear
Member
System War has changed.
UltimateRemag
Banned
In before penello apologizes -_-
SJRB
Gold Member
Kojima was on stage with Mattrick to announce Rising coming to Xbox, which happened FIVE years ago during E3 2009.
Kojimaception?
Phire Phox
Banned
I imagine it will be identical to 99% of gamers and only the hardcore nerds and DF will find any noticeable difference between the two versions.
the_batman
Banned
i don't think you have to be a hardcore nerd to see the difference between 60 and 30fps.
GameAddict411
Member
But this contradicts with what other developers are saying, some claiming that sony's developing tools are more mature.
Never change, Phire Phox....
SJRB
Gold Member
...right. The difference is noticable enough to have both Kojima and the journalist mention it in the article.
But whatever makes you feel comfortable, I suppose.
This generation is going to be really hard for you, isn't it.
polyh3dron
Banned
The surprising thing isn't that a multiplaform game is running better on the PS4, it's been well-established that it has a considerable horsepower edge over the XBOne, much to the chagrin of Albert Penello et al.
The surprising thing here is that Kojima actually admitted it. Most devs have made an effort to not say anything about one version of their game being better than another, to the point where it just becomes XBOne fanboy fodder where they use the comments to legitimize their downplaying of these disparities, sometimes to the point of hilarity.
In unrelated news...
The surprising thing here is that Kojima actually admitted it. Most devs have made an effort to not say anything about one version of their game being better than another, to the point where it just becomes XBOne fanboy fodder where they use the comments to legitimize their downplaying of these disparities, sometimes to the point of hilarity.
In unrelated news...
So basically just like Tomb Raider, right? huehuehue
plasmawave
Banned
What? Albert is ra ri ru re ro???
One of the funniest shit on GAF from certain members last year was the notion that MS would somehow "demand" complete parity, as if MS had that sort of clout. Not even Activision the company MS pays for timed DLC bothered with parity in CoD.
You will see this sort of stuff for years to come.
You will see this sort of stuff for years to come.
Stone Ocean
Member
Whatever makes you sleep at night.
They have proceeded past denial and are now into the acceptance phase.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Did you feel the same regarding Xbox 360 and PS3 multiplatform titles?
The reality is a lot of people assumed wrong because a lot of people just don't understand technical specs - not being arrogant BTW just noting that's the problem here.
The situation is one where the bulk of the audience is not informed enough on what really makes a difference here - I've no doubt casual gamers will assume they're the same spec because they each have 8GB of memory - and to be fair why would they understand the difference in memory type?
Hell I still see people post or claim that the 360 had 512 MB of memory whereas the PS3 only had 256 MB because they miss-understood the PS3 memory architecture.
What's happening is evidence and word of mouth is passing on the message in an understandable way and the many non-technical folks who just made assumptions are finding out they assumed wrong.
Speaking as someone with a Computer Science Degree and a former programmer who regularly gets calls from my gaming friends for technical support and still finds that most of the time they've plugged something in the wrong way BTW.
I guess we'll see threads like this for a while until the reality that this gen the power gap is much more significant and real fully settles in.
As an aside I'm curious to see what "slightly" translates too given Kojima would want all versions to sell well and is hardly going to note anything else - but also wondering why if they're just slight he'd bother mentioning it at all? I'm guessing slight is still going to be something that can be noted - be it better resolution or frame rate or something like that.
Of course he could just be very honest guy (and I mean that honestly myself!) and noting there are some genuinely just minor differences.
SniperHunter
Banned
Id be concerned about witcher. The game ran like shit on my 5850. That dev isnt known for optimizations
no one is making you click these threads
HORRORSHØW
Member
polyh3dron
Banned
When some people keep getting away with saying that water isn't wet in the face of more and more overwhelming evidence confirming that it actually is, others tend to want to point it out.