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Microsoft: Killer Instinct to continue; will announce "new development partner" soon

Silky

Banned
I wonder if KI has been a success or not for MS. It clearly wasn't a critical success even with its very vocal fanbase, but maybe its a financial one.

Phil Spencer said the game was a success. He also seems really invested in the IP.

I wouldn't care about a fighting game's critical reception amongst the press because the press don't know how to review fighting games.
 

hawk2025

Member
It's so bizarre that they HAVE RARE and this is even a question.


The company must really be a pathetic shell of itself.




....what happened to Kinect Sports Rivals anyways? Wasn't that like... a january or February game?
 

Geek

Ninny Prancer
I don't think adding more stress to the LZ staff with their Skullgirls work would do them any favors.

Stress? The Lab Zero team is totally living on Easy Street, probably a factor of everything going in their favor all the time.
 
It's so bizarre that they HAVE RARE and this is even a question.


The company must really be a pathetic shell of itself.




....what happened to Kinect Sports Rivals anyways? Wasn't that like... a january or February game?

Like Rare has time for Killer Instinct when they're polishing up Rivals and working on new Banjo/Conker games.
 

Leflus

Member
Phil Spencer said the game was a success. He also seems really invested in the IP.

I wouldn't care about a fighting game's critical reception amongst the press because the press don't know how to review fighting games.
The thing about the reviews is that most of them docked the game for its lack of content.

KI is going to be a great package once they've shipped the story mode and season 2 (and hopefully season 3).

....what happened to Kinect Sports Rivals anyways? Wasn't that like... a january or February game?
It's coming after Titanfall but before the summer.
 

EBE

Member
....what happened to Kinect Sports Rivals anyways? Wasn't that like... a january or February game?

i believe its a March title, though that hasnt been announced. but the demo they have out right now, Preaseaon, has had exclusive unlockables for every month since launch ending in March, if im not mistaken. it looks pretty cool. excited for it.
 
The guys at Microsoft were extremely lucky with Killer Instinct. Didn't Double Helix approach them with the idea because they love the IP, and Microsoft was impressed enough with what they showed that they greenlit the project?

They should've looked into acquiring the studio. It's a huge missed opportunity for MS, especially in light of all the studios they've been merging as of late. They need to build a proper first party stable like Nintendo and Sony, in order to bring some sort of consistency and reliability to their platforms' line ups, as opposed to the Halo/Gears/Fable/Forza + completely sporadic third party exclusives and late gen droughts like 360.
 

Into

Member
I am sure they will be fine. I like that KI ended up being better than it had any right being, we all thought it was going to suck a big fat one, and it ended up as a decent fighting game.

But that is all it was, decent, nothing mindbogglingly special.

I am confident they will find a developer or assemble a team to make KI games on par with the recent KI game.
 

LTWheels

Member
Also this game wasn't made on UE3 or anything, it was DH's internal engine, so a new studio would be unfamiliar with how it works...
 

hawk2025

Member
The thing about the reviews is that most of them docked the game for its lack of content.

KI is going to be a great package once they've shipped the story mode and season 2 (and hopefully season 3).


It's coming after Titanfall but before the summer.

Is going?

Or was going?

Can a new dev truly understand what the original ones were doing and keep the game balanced as they double, triple its roster?
 

Silky

Banned
Can a new dev truly understand what the original ones were doing and keep the game balanced as they double, triple its roster?

And THAT's the issue there.

Again. We can only hope the KI 'internal' team (whatever the fuck that means.) and the group that worked on KI at DH forms some new 1st Party studio at MS. DH is in California right?

Does this mean we won't get Fulgore anytime soon?

Fulgore is still planned for March...
 

Leflus

Member
Is going?

Or was going?

Can a new dev truly understand what the original ones were doing and keep the game balanced as they double, triple its roster?
I'm sure that Ken Lobb and the rest of MS' creative directors that were working on KI has a general idea of where the game should go in the future.
 

harSon

Banned
The guys at Microsoft were extremely lucky with Killer Instinct. Didn't Double Helix approach them with the idea because they love the IP, and Microsoft was impressed enough with what they showed that they greenlight the project?

They should've looked into acquiring the studio. It's a huge missed opportunity for MS, especially in light of all the studios they've been merging as of late. They need to build a proper first party stable like Nintendo and Sony, in order to bring some sort of consistency and reliability to their platforms' line ups, as opposed to the Halo/Gears/Fable/Forza + completely sporadic third party exclusives and late gen droughts like 360.

Eh, Bioware was a missed opportunity. Double Helix was a historically mediocre studio that had one solid game to its name. Whether they had truly managed to turn it around and become a legitimate and consistent developer remains to be seen, and until that was apparent, it would have been stupid for Microsoft to make the purchase. Developers like Remedy, Undead Labs, Playground Games, etc. should take precedence.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Yes, and yet here we are with a well liked Killer Instinct game from Double Helix.

A big reason that worked was the talent on board hired pretty much just for this game. Unless some key people follow along it's going to be weird.
 

hawk2025

Member
I'm sure that Ken Lobb and the rest of MS' creative directors that were working on KI has a general idea of where the game should go in the future.


That's not enough.

They need dev talent to deliver a product on whatever they mean by "KI team", which I'm assuming is a set of executive producers.

An idea of where the game should go does not guarantee a balanced fighting roster.
 

Lulubop

Member
Unless they're hiring some DH guys, I got a bad feeling about season two. Shame, DH seemed to have done an excellent job.
 

hawk2025

Member
Eh, Bioware was a missed opportunity. Double Helix was a historically mediocre studio that had one solid game to its name. Whether they had truly managed to turn it around and become a legitimate and consistent developer remains to be seen, and until that was apparent, it would have been stupid for Microsoft to make the purchase. Developers like Remedy, Undead Labs, Playground Games, etc. should take precedence.



But... that makes them a cheap buy. They had newfound potential the market did not know about yet.

Microsoft saw that they had turned the studio around (to their credit though, perhaps it wasn't Microsoft's influence) -- regardless, their close relationship gave them information the rest of the market didn't have.

This would have made DH a cheap buy with a promising future in fighters.
 

def sim

Member
A big reason that worked was the talent on board hired pretty much just for this game. Unless some key people follow along it's going to be weird.

Sure, it's much preferable to have kept DH on KI. There's no doubting that. Switching development teams on an incomplete game is cause for concern. That said, as I did with Double Helix and KI, I'm going to wait and see what and who the new "development partners" are before seemingly writing off what's already there.
 

bon

Member
Hey let's have one developer make half of a fighting game, sell it to people incomplete, and then pass it on to a different developer to finish it. What could possibly go wrong?
 
Microsoft was obviously caught with their pants down.

If they planned, they would be flaunting their preparation by announcing the developer! At the very least, they would announce having full permission to use Double Helix engine and coding to continue the game as they see fit.

Either this is going to cost a lot, or a new Killer Instinct will have to be developed from scratch.
 

Omega

Banned
The only game worth playing on the system and you don't even bother to keep them..

This absolute refusal to secure first parties blows my fucking mind. I don't see why they go out of their way to not have a first party.

Nintendo has survived like 4 generations with nothing but first party games.
 

hawk2025

Member
By the way, I smell bullshit on Phil saying this transition was "planned".

If that was the case, this info would have been anounced minutes after or simultaneously with the Amazon info -- not hours and hours later, no?
 

Dabanton

Member
By the way, I smell bullshit on Phil saying this transition was "planned".

If that was the case, this info would have been anounced minutes after or simultaneously with the Amazon info -- not hours and hours later, no?

Why would they need to have done that?

I'm sure MS would have had to at least known that DH were in the process of getting brought by someone especially if they were contracted with someone else IP.

I'm going to bet that the people hired to do KI at DH will be forming a new studio for Season 2.
 

hawk2025

Member
Why would they need to have done that?

I'm sure MS would have had to at least known that DH were in the process of getting brought by someone especially if they were contracted with someone else IP.

I'm going to bet that the people hired to do KI at DH will be forming a new studio for Season 2.



Because it's what you do as a company to signal to the market that your product won't be affected.

Hell, preferably if they were truly in the loop we would even know the new dev by now. We would know if anyone's leaving DH to still develop KI.

It's not good PR to let uncertainty fester over your product, especially over something that has such an awesomely dedicatdedicated fanbase like KI on the Xbox One has developed.


Anyways, that's my view.
 

zainetor

Banned
The only game worth playing on the system and you don't even bother to keep them..

This absolute refusal to secure first parties blows my fucking mind. I don't see why they go out of their way to not have a first party.

Nintendo has survived like 4 generations with nothing but first party games.

the fact that they were probably a cheap buy is mindblowing.
You blow 400 millions on a shitty nfl deal and you dont buy a cheap promising studio that is developing one of your best games? Fuck off microsoft.
 
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