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Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2014 (Oct 06 - Oct 12)

T

Takao

Banned
SCEJA, I want to see how Minecraft will sell physically. The game is done on all of your machines. Get at it.
 
S

shinra-bansho

Member
sörine;134605984 said:
It's lazy and disingenous because it artifically shuts down discourse by casting negative implications. If you're genuinely confused then ask for clairification in a less demeaning way. Language counts.

Xbox One is then also a viable platform for Japanese 3rd party titles as evidenced by the fact it's recieving them. However that doesn't indicate the platform itself is viable in Japan specifically. Same as Germany or France or wherever else.

I feel I've been pretty clear about all this but if you're still having trouble understanding I can keep trying?
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It's kind of strange to concurrently be so incredibly condescending while asking someone to be less "demeaning."

I'm not speaking to some definition you're apparently railing against.

A platform is viable for complementary goods, not simply because its receiving them, but because a sufficient business case can continue to be made for producing those goods for the platform. When that business case can no longer be made; the market is not sufficiently important, the net present value of the product sales isn't positive and/or sufficient when weighed against other opportunities, when whatever benefits outweigh the added complexity of an additional SKU, when there's no strategic merit in producing the SKU and so on, then the goods cease to be made.
I don't see anything particularly unreasonable about this. How else does one define whether a platform is viable for associated content?

Furthermore, what third party titles will it continue to receive in Japan considering it's proving itself neither a viable product, nor a viable platform for third party titles or any titles for that matter? Batman Arkham Knight is an example where clearly a business case can't be made for a multiplatform release. Even the benefit it has in its favor of being a port-twin with the PS4 can't overcome the negative implications of the piss-poor sales it will receive.
It's also a particularly distinct market, with very distinct tastes, which publishers tend to look at in isolation, whether that's Western or local publishers.

Germany and France aren't considered discretely in making platform decisions, I thought you concurred with that. While those territories have their quirks, for instance the continuance of strong physical retail PC sales in Germany, and stronger Nintendo/Japan-o-centric series in France, publishers consider those markets as part of "Western markets."
The platform is viable in "Western markets" and by that virtue will continue to be considered as viable as a product for these third party content providers and have complementary goods produced for it in those countries.

There is no risk of Ubisoft not releasing the next Assassin's Creed on the XBO. There is no reasonable way one can suggest that there isn't a good business case for releasing the next Call of Duty on the XBO. It's entirely viable for these products and their producers.
 
R

Road

Member
No MH4G new 3DSLL bundle or download sales from Media Create. =(

- MH4G sellthrough: 85.4%
- new 3DS cover plates: 19,000 units sold.
- best selling cover plates: 37 and 38-Monster Hunter, 4-Yoshi and 24-Wood.
- No cover plate sold more than 10% of the total, implying a mostly even demand.

http://www.m-create.com/ranking/
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
weekly VS.


Wii U vs. GC
Code: 
week 96 - 1,927,239  /  2,267,019    -339,780
week 97 - 1,932,346  /  2,278,037    -345,691

the gap will probably increase until MK8 bundle (GC every week over 10k)



XB vs. XBO
Code: 
week 05 - 184,935  /   31,855    -153,080
week 06 - 190,092  /   32,773    -157,319

at least it will sell more than Apple Pippin....



PS3 vs. PS4
Code: 
week 33 -   982,947  /   717,338    -265,609
week 34 -   996,349  /   727,221    -269,128

despite the new white colour, the gap is still increasing



PS4 vs. Wii U
Code: 
week 33 -   717,338  /     996,825    -279,487
week 34 -   727,221  /  1,007,762    -280,541

Wii U had a sales decline due to New Mario + Nintendoland incoming bundle, so the gap should decrease in the incoming weeks (PS4 needs to stay over 7-8k of course)



3DS 2013 vs. 2014
Code: 
week 40 - 3,254,620  /  1,625,142    -1,629,478
week 41 - 3,497,400  /  1,888,152    -1,609,248

Pokemon X/Y launch week is similar to 2 new models on market (total : 4) + a dedicated bundle (MH4G); next week 3DS needs at least 164k to balance last year week
 
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shinra-bansho

Member
Stop what? You don't see anything remotely condescending in the way you responded. I think I've been relatively cordial, considering how adversarial your tone has been, especially considering my initial general foray into this discussion and querying of whether people were simply looking for an argument wasn't explicitly directed at you.

The comment was directed at any implication being made that the XBO isn't a viable platform for third party products. The reality is that it is, under reasonable definition of what makes a platform viable for complementary goods.
 
S

Sammy Samusu

Member
Best selling games on Amazon in 2014: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/

Games charting based on pre-orders alone:

#31 - Pokémon Alpha Sapphire [Figurine Edition] (3DS) (New)
#33 - Pokémon Omega Ruby [Figurine Edition] (3DS) (New)
#41 - Psycho Break [Special Edition] (PS4) (+28)
#54 - Bloodborne [Limited Edition] (PS4) (+19)
#57 - Youkai Watch 2: Shinuchi (3DS) (New)
#62 - Final Fantasy Explorers (3DS) (New)
#99 - Pokémon Alpha Sapphire (3DS) (New)
 
S

sörine

Banned
shinra-bansho said:
Stop what? You don't see anything remotely condescending in the way you responded. I think I've been relatively cordial, considering how adversarial your tone has been, especially considering my initial general foray into this discussion and querying of whether people were simply looking for an argument wasn't explicitly directed at you.
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You're right. Enganging you in any way invariably turns out to be a mistake. I'm stepping away from your lovingly cordial demeanor right now. Happy Sales-Aging.
 
M

Mory Dunz

Member
iD3re4LHXj7bn.gif

lol


Anyway, in those comparisons posted eariler, it may actually not be set that the PS4 can stay over 7-8k in the next weeks. Well, when's the next game?
 
Z

zeromcd73

Member
Sammy Samusu said:
Best selling games on Amazon in 2014: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/

Games charting based on pre-orders alone:

#31 - Pokémon Alpha Sapphire [Figurine Edition] (3DS) (New)
#33 - Pokémon Omega Ruby [Figurine Edition] (3DS) (New)
#41 - Psycho Break [Special Edition] (PS4) (+28)
#54 - Bloodborne [Limited Edition] (PS4) (+19)
#57 - Youkai Watch 2: Shinuchi (3DS) (New)
#62 - Final Fantasy Explorers (3DS) (New)
#99 - Pokémon Alpha Sapphire (3DS) (New)
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It's only been 2 days (´・ω・｀)
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
Evenflow said:
Thanks for posting these! I'd be really interested in Wii U's current week vs Vita and even PS3 if it's not a ton of trouble. I think Wii U is could follow a similar trajectory as Vita...just a hunch though.
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I can do both, no problem
just I think Wii U and PS3 won't match any time so it's a gap that will become wider and wider by the time goes on

Anyway, later I'll post both ;)
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
Sammy Samusu said:
Best selling games on Amazon in 2014: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/

Games charting based on pre-orders alone:

#31 - Pokémon Alpha Sapphire [Figurine Edition] (3DS) (New)
#33 - Pokémon Omega Ruby [Figurine Edition] (3DS) (New)
#41 - Psycho Break [Special Edition] (PS4) (+28)
#54 - Bloodborne [Limited Edition] (PS4) (+19)
#57 - Youkai Watch 2: Shinuchi (3DS) (New)
#62 - Final Fantasy Explorers (3DS) (New)
#99 - Pokémon Alpha Sapphire (3DS) (New)
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This is totally crazy.

Thanks to the movie, this will be the Yokai Watch Christmas over there.
 
H

hiska-kun

Member
Today was the day that new shipment for MH4G was supposed to arrive, after the announcement of more than 2 millions shipped and digital on Wednesday (and sold out almost everywhere that day).
That's the situation in big stores in Tokyo:

Bic Camera (Shinjuku) Urgent shipment arrived 緊急入荷!! (the employer is restocking the stand)
D6DEC22F-5468-4FBB-8FEE-9DE6F38A193D_zpsa7z3ztyi.jpg


Yodabashi Camera (Shinjuku west) Urgent Shipment!! 緊急入荷
604A3972-910B-4184-9E00-AD95B1ED42A9_zpssim8rsuz.jpg


Yodabashi Camera (Shinjuku east) Urgent shipment!! 緊急入荷
D1982AFF-ADC0-48CD-9A4F-13E9372E989B_zpsjnfg5ko7.jpg


Yamada Denki (Shinjuku east) No new shipment at all. Next shipment is unknown
6BCC703C-6642-4135-BAE7-C4AE7E4C006B_zpsueboqdgz.jpg


Bic Camera (Ikebukuro) Urgent shipment 緊急入荷!!!
BB1AAEDB-5CF5-4BA9-A937-0EE13D171F5A_zpsiwqhk8yz.jpg

That's the shipment (New 3DS sold out)
52530CA8-545F-41CF-A0E3-9180A499D0B9_zpsoxihkris.jpg


When they say urgent shipment, the meaning is that the shipment is not that big. Sold outs are very possible soon. I will have to check this weekend again.
New 3DS is sold out everywhere and every model. Next shipment is supposed to arrive tomorrow (Will be urgent too?)

Youkai Watch 2 Shin Uchi stand:
ADE54ADA-C1D3-4E14-8BE2-51C0102137C7_zpsi0z0nygl.jpg

Youkai Watch Merchandising
9D4B3BA1-4D56-4D25-948A-0AB6E9A855F8_zpsonifa1ua.jpg


It's becoming bigger and bigger.

This week's releases:

[PSV] Chaos Rings III
B07D9F31-FD1A-4E2D-A529-3494CC7E7E57_zpsndkmr48j.jpg

3403B330-AEEC-454C-B19C-A63F295F0CF6_zps4oaicrnw.jpg
 
O

Orgen

Member
Could Youkai Watch 2: Shin Uchi reach 2 million LTD being a third version? I don't think so but seeing the preorders, stands... I don't know anymore :|

And I was pretty sure that Pokemon ORAS would sell more tan Youkai Watch 2 but... it's going to be pretty close unless Shin Uchi cut the legs of the other 2 Youkai Watch versions.

I don't have the numbers in hand but I think that 3DS 2014 SW LTD will be bigger than 2013 SW LTD, right?
 
A

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
N3DS still sold out, even the normal one..? I wonder if manufacturing two new models is somehow creating problems to Nintendo (I can't see other reason for a 70k sold out debut)
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
Nice pictures, they give us a flavor of how the situation is in Japan.

I didn't think MH4G was going to be that big. 2m+ the first 4 days and sold-outs everywhere with urgent shipments means that the game is going to do 500k+ in next week's MC numbers, which would be more than MH4 (which was also supply constrained).
 
A

ArcaneFreeze

Member
Aostia said:
N3DS still sold out, even the normal one..? I wonder if manufacturing two new models is somehow creating problems to Nintendo (I can't see other reason for a 70k sold out debut)
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Its either that or they were going conservative with their production considering this when it comes down to it its still just a hardware revision.
 
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L~A

Member
So according to Media Create, MH4G sold roughly 85.40% of the initial shioment during the first 2 days (compared to ~94% for MH4).

They expect MH4G to reach 2m next week (well, doh, thanks Captain Obvious :p).

They're talking about the N3DS launch as some sort of comeback after the 50% YoY drop from the past few months.

Apparently, most popular plates were n° 37 / 38 (Monster Hunter) and n°4 (Yoshi).
N°24 was also popular, despite its high price.

Source
 
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zeromcd73

Member
So we finally got some scans, and a new Yu-Gi-Oh game is coming this winter. The strange thing is the section that states the platforms it is coming out on only says PSP, but down the bottom in a separate area says you can also play it on PS Vita.

Does this mean the PSP version is a retail release, and the Vita version is download only? Thought it was strange since I've never seen platforms announced like that before.
 
L

L~A

Member
zeromcd73 said:
So we finally got some scans, and a new Yu-Gi-Oh game is coming this winter. The strange thing is the section that states the platforms it is coming out on only says PSP, but down the bottom in a separate area says you can also play it on PS Vita.

Does this mean the PSP version is a retail release, and the Vita version is download only? Thought it was strange since I've never seen platforms announced like that before.
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No, it simply means you'll be able to play the PSP version on your Vita if you go digital.
 
K

Kresnik258

Member
zeromcd73 said:
So we finally got some scans, and a new Yu-Gi-Oh game is coming this winter. The strange thing is the section that states the platforms it is coming out on only says PSP, but down the bottom in a separate area says you can also play it on PS Vita.
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Wow, it was actually real? I genuinely thought it was just a fake rumor.
 
B

BishopLamont

Banned
Orgen said:
Could Youkai Watch 2: Shin Uchi reach 2 million LTD being a third version? I don't think so but seeing the preorders, stands... I don't know anymore :|

And I was pretty sure that Pokemon ORAS would sell more tan Youkai Watch 2 but... it's going to be pretty close unless Shin Uchi cut the legs of the other 2 Youkai Watch versions.

I don't have the numbers in hand but I think that 3DS 2014 SW LTD will be bigger than 2013 SW LTD, right?
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It'll easily sell 2m, just probably not this year due to launching so late.

yeah i think 2014 sw will top 2013, so many big games coming out this year and YW1/YW2 will also add to that.
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
zeromcd73 said:
So we finally got some scans, and a new Yu-Gi-Oh game is coming this winter. The strange thing is the section that states the platforms it is coming out on only says PSP, but down the bottom in a separate area says you can also play it on PS Vita.

Does this mean the PSP version is a retail release, and the Vita version is download only? Thought it was strange since I've never seen platforms announced like that before.
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I wonder if this was a shelved game from ages ago they decided to update a bit and finish.

I'm not under the impression Konami has actual handheld development anymore and a PSP games suggests they were trying to do this in the quickest and cheapest way possible.

Psycho_Mantis said:
lol I was doing the same thing waiting for numbers.
They might update it once its been a year or might not.
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It was updated in March 2013, so we are already past that barrier.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
01./00. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 1.446.289 / NEW <85,40%>
___

21./28. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800)
22./00. [3DS] Majin Bone: Jikan to Kuukan no Majin <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.10.09} (¥6.145)
23./24. [PSV] Toukiden: The Age of Demons Extreme # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.28} (¥6.264)
24./20. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.09.20} (¥8.316)
25./12. [PSV] Ciel Nosurge Offline: Ushinawareta Hoshi e Sasagu Uta # <ETC> (Gust) {2014.10.02} (¥6.264)
26./14. [3DS] Haikyu!! Tsunage! Itadaki no Keshiki!! # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.09.25} (¥6.145)
27./19. [PS4] Destiny # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.09.11} (¥8.532)
28./00. [PSV] Flowers <ADV> (Prototype) {2014.10.09} (¥5.184)
29./32. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800)
30./33. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
31./27. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don to Katsu no Jikuu Daibouken <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.06.26} (¥5.119)
32./21. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Revolution <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.09.11} (¥7.689)
33./31. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.08.07} (¥6.145)
34./26. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V [Bargain Edition] <ACT> (Rockstar Games) {2014.06.26} (¥5.389)
35./17. [PS3] F1 2014 <RCE> (Codemasters) {2014.10.02} (¥7.992)
36./08. [PS4] Omega Quintet # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2014.10.02} (¥7.538)
37./34. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
38./18. [PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2: Ouritsu Tokoshan to Mamono no Fuuin # <RPG> (Aqua Plus) {2014.09.25} (¥6.264)
39./38. [PSV] Danganronpa 1-2 Reload <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.10.10} (¥5.229)
40./43. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.800)
41./42. [PS3] Persona 4: Arena Ultimax # <FTG> (Atlus) {2014.08.28} (¥7.538)
42./50. [3DS] Tomodachi Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800)
43./37. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Square Enix) {2014.09.04} (¥3.024)
44./45. [3DS] Mario Party: Island Tour <ETC> (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} (¥4.800)
45./36. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990)
46./41. [3DS] Pokemon Art Academy <HOB> (Nintendo) {2014.06.19} (¥3.908)
47./39. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters - Tokimeki Up! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2014.04.17} (¥4.936)
48./30. [PS4] Samurai Warriors 4 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.09.04} (¥7.776)
49./35. [PS3] Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.08.21} (¥5.184)
50./00. [3DS] Hoppechan: Minna de Odekake! Waku Waku Hoppe Land!! <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2014.07.17} (¥5.184)

Top 50

3DS - 22
PS3 - 10
PSV - 9
PS4 - 5
WIU - 3
WII - 1

SOFTWARE
Code: 
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |  1.854.000 |    550.000 |  2.919.000 | 30.653.000 | 35.151.000 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
S

Spiegel

Member
L~A said:
So according to Media Create, MH4G sold roughly 85.40% of the initial shioment during the first 2 days (compared to ~94% for MH4).

They expect MH4G to reach 2m next week (well, doh, thanks Captain Obvious :p).

They're talking about the N3DS launch as some sort of comeback after the 50% YoY drop from the past few months.

Apparently, most popular plates were n° 37 / 38 (Monster Hunter) and n°4 (Yoshi).
N°24 was also popular, despite its high price.

Source
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'Next week' as in the next week's report or 'next week' as in the days 20-26?

Because the former is not obvious, it's impossible if it has a similar drop as MH4.
 
R

Road

Member
L~A said:
So according to Media Create, MH4G sold roughly 85.40% of the initial shioment during the first 2 days (compared to ~94% for MH4).

They expect MH4G to reach 2m next week (well, doh, thanks Captain Obvious :p).

They're talking about the N3DS launch as some sort of comeback after the 50% YoY drop from the past few months.

Apparently, most popular plates were n° 37 / 38 (Monster Hunter) and n°4 (Yoshi).
N°24 was also popular, despite its high price.

Source
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Please, read the thread before posting.

I don't normally call people out on it, but since you're posting mistaken information...

- MH4 sellthrough was 91.96% (not 94%)
- Media Create expects MH4G to cross 2 million on its 3rd week or later.

KillerMan91 said:
Can you remember what are the totals for Minecraft currently? Really where are the physical releases for Minecraft SCEJ...
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Minecraft PS3 downloads should be at 157k (Famitsu)

Sammy Samusu said:
Best selling games on Amazon in 2014: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/

Games charting based on pre-orders alone:
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Speaking of Minecraft, the PS3 physical import has climbed to no. 13 for the year on Amazon, despite being released on PSN -- it was no. 20 last I checked (three months ago).

Sony should make a PS4 bundle with Minecraft for Christmas in Japan.
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
as requested :


Wii U vs. Vita
Code: 
week 97 - 1,932,346  /  1,861,273    +71,073

Wii U is above but Vita had 2000 model in 4 weeks (and the following 3 weeks was always over 20k)



Wii U vs. PS3
Code: 
week 97 - 1,932,346  /  2,353,643    -421,297

PS3 had a bump in 4 weeks (Nov.2008), I didn't remember what happened, maybe price cut? new colour? PS3 slim arrived the year after
 
M

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Road said:
No MH4G new 3DSLL bundle or download sales from Media Create. =(

- MH4G sellthrough: 85.4%
- new 3DS cover plates: 19,000 units sold.
- best selling cover plates: 37 and 38-Monster Hunter, 4-Yoshi and 24-Wood.
- No cover plate sold more than 10% of the total, implying a mostly even demand.

http://www.m-create.com/ranking/
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Sooo...opinions on plates' first two days?
 
E

Evenflow

Member
Moor-Angol said:
as requested :


Wii U vs. Vita
Code: 
week 97 - 1,932,346  /  1,861,273    +71,073

Wii U is above but Vita had 2000 model in 4 weeks (and the following 3 weeks was always over 20k)



Wii U vs. PS3
Code: 
week 97 - 1,932,346  /  2,353,643    -421,297

PS3 had a bump in 4 weeks (Nov.2008), I didn't remember what happened, maybe price cut? new colour? PS3 slim arrived the year after
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Cool, thanks! I figured Wii U vs Vita would be pretty even. Will be interesting to see going forward. Wish it could carve out a 3rd party niche like Vita, but it seems that niche is just Nintendo games lol.
 
K

KillerMan91

Member
Road said:
Minecraft PS3 downloads should be at 157k (Famitsu)
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Thanks!

Speaking of Minecraft, the PS3 physical import has climbed to no. 13 for the year on Amazon, despite being released on PSN -- it was no. 20 last I checked (three months ago).

Sony should make a PS4 bundle with Minecraft for Christmas in Japan.
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They should make both Vita and PS4 bundles. Knowing SCEJ though I would be actually surprised if they did this. It makes too much sense.
 
R

Road

Member
Square Enix mobile info:

Chaos Rings series has sold 1.2 million downloads worldwide, not including CRIII. Total was 1.1 million in August .

Final Fantasy Record Keeper free downloads
- 10 days: 1 million
- 22 days: 2 million.

Dragon Quest Monsters Super Light free downloads:
- 8 months: 8 million

School Girl Strikers free downloads:
- 4 months: 2 million.

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Danganronpa is confusing because NISA split the Vita game for localization.

JP
-> US

PSP Danganronpa
-> Not localized

PSP Super Danganronpa 2
-> Not localized

Vita Danganropna 1+2 Reload
-> 1) Trigger Happy Havoc
-> 2) Goodbye Despair
 
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