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Splatoon |OT4| You're a detriment to your squad
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Made it to top 100 with gold dynamo after exactly 2 hours of playing. It's just luck. I'm now already back down to 1800 thanks to dumb teammates choosing carbon for competitve turf war.
We'll win a game one day with double dynamo, backlot
Yeah, we've gotten poor luck every time we get matched together.
SatoAilDarko
Member
When does this Splatfest end?
Thanks.
Thanks.
12+ hours from now.
SatoAilDarko
Member
When on a seven Spongebob victory streak.
I was so happy when I got disconnected. I needed a break.
Thanks.
Just went to the Plaza. So 3 PM tommorow.
I messed up today when looking at Google maps for when CVS Pharmacy closed. It said 10 pm but apparently that was just for the store. I went before 9 and the pharmacy was closed.
I only had one pill left today of something I take three of daily.
I get really bad withdrawal headaches that have started. Not sure when I get the medicine tommorow how much time I'll have to rank up. Don't think I can play much more today.
I was so happy when I got disconnected. I needed a break.
Thanks.
Just went to the Plaza. So 3 PM tommorow.
I messed up today when looking at Google maps for when CVS Pharmacy closed. It said 10 pm but apparently that was just for the store. I went before 9 and the pharmacy was closed.
I only had one pill left today of something I take three of daily.
I get really bad withdrawal headaches that have started. Not sure when I get the medicine tommorow how much time I'll have to rank up. Don't think I can play much more today.
Had one guy decide to stare at the back of the wall at Bluefin spawn for the last minute. The match had been going admittedly poorly, but it wasn't unsalvageable yet. We had one guy running around our side, we weren't being spawn-camped or anything.
We lost by 1%. That stupid loser.
We lost by 1%. That stupid loser.
abercrombie
Member
Things must be winding down, I managed to get Spongebob King about 5 minutes ago though...slots were getting harder to fill.
Not sure if the team balancing made a difference but we won quite a few of our matches on Spongebob side. I rode with team to 11x, got about 60-70 points with them. I had to ditch them for going out to meet someone for dinner and I wish I could communicate my disappointment in leaving. We each had a strategy for each map that seemed to work, we could cover each other too, so much fun!
My hopes are team Callie is back =)
Not sure if the team balancing made a difference but we won quite a few of our matches on Spongebob side. I rode with team to 11x, got about 60-70 points with them. I had to ditch them for going out to meet someone for dinner and I wish I could communicate my disappointment in leaving. We each had a strategy for each map that seemed to work, we could cover each other too, so much fun!
My hopes are team Callie is back =)
ivanthebearable
Member
This has to be one of the least enjoyable Splatfests I've been a part of yet.
Aldric
Member
Yeah l definitely don't like the new formula. lt's more stressful and frustrating than solo queue, l've been matched at least twice against players from competitive teams (one from NSTC l think) and got obviously destroyed, this never happened in ranked even when the matchmaking was wonky and mixed S and S+ ranks.
Maxed out with a 1564 Splatfest power, l think this'll be my last one.
I'm on full fucking tilt right now. I think I've lost 13 consecutive matches (sorry Patricks). I know it's partially my fault because I'm playing custom blaster without my defense up shirt, but I'm just too salty at my teammates to switch yet until I get a win...
I miss the old splatfests.
Edit: I sincerely want my side to lose.
I miss the old splatfests.
Edit: I sincerely want my side to lose.
tonyh24613
Member
Tuna Team wins, that's a close one. The new rule makes the winning rate much closer than before. They should change x6 back to x4 or x2 IMO.
You live in Japan?
I'm right there with you, for a variety of reasons. I think the "Power" ratings and everything makes sense to try and keep matches more even, but since everyone else in the Discord who was playing at the same time as me was S+ and I'm S, the starting power difference basically ensured that I wouldn't get to play with anyone when I was actually intending to. Ran into Burning Justice for a few games but a disconnect brought an end to that.
On top of that, there was the ridiculous amount of Patrick dittos, probably a good 45-50% of my matches and the general fact that I had no rooting interest in this theme to begin with (seriously they picked probably my two least favorite characters from the show, if I had any preference at all). The splatfest before this one had the new system too, but I had a much stronger winning streak for that one so the grind felt quick. This was just an unenjoyable slog all the way through.
DANG IT No overtaking DaBoss on the scoreboard lol. Had 1992 to his 2017, just won the last battle but am unsure on my final score just yet.
Least I made it into Top 100!
Edit: 2001. My team was kicking butt, too! I should have woke up earlier. >_>
Shout outs to said teammates: ISM+Mkp12, {Cookie}, and MariesButt
Least I made it into Top 100!
Edit: 2001. My team was kicking butt, too! I should have woke up earlier. >_>
Shout outs to said teammates: ISM+Mkp12, {Cookie}, and MariesButt
Claude Kenni
Member
Sweet victory!
Triforce141
Member
Having the Splatfest matchmaking based on your rank is hard to determine who's the more popular team, so many mirror matches on Pokemon Blue and Red was still the popular team.
I didn't get any mirror matches because I was Team Spongebob, and almost nobody in S+ was Spongebob and I couldn't care less of playing this Splatfest
Oh, nice.
This Fest felt a lot like the old days of Splatoon, when Inkstrikes were flying all over.
Iva Demilcol
Member
I didn't know your rank counts during Splatfests. That explains why I was matched with generally pretty capable team mates.
Chose Marie so it's nice to have three victories, I guess we are on a roll.
After almost no wins during how many? 9 or so splatfests this feels great.
Chose Marie so it's nice to have three victories, I guess we are on a roll.
After almost no wins during how many? 9 or so splatfests this feels great.
SatoAilDarko
Member
So I lost. Due to some medicine issues I only went to champion this time. I did win over 75% of my matches though.
I couldn't vote for Patrick even if I wanted the Sea Snails. I like him but he also grates me.
I hop they continue Splatfests throughout the year. I really want to upgrade all my gear and have only gotten King the two Splatfests before this.
I was 93 on the last Pokemon match. Felt really bad.
x6 was always stupid. There wasn't a Splatfest in NA were x4 decided the winner
They should honest probably go to x3 because more popularity almost always has more losses.
I couldn't vote for Patrick even if I wanted the Sea Snails. I like him but he also grates me.
I hop they continue Splatfests throughout the year. I really want to upgrade all my gear and have only gotten King the two Splatfests before this.
I was 93 on the last Pokemon match. Felt really bad.
x6 was always stupid. There wasn't a Splatfest in NA were x4 decided the winner
They should honest probably go to x3 because more popularity almost always has more losses.
CoconutTank
Member
My 2nd time to S+. I didn't report the first time but I'll report it this time.
TC in general is a great mode for Rapid Blaster Pro Deco, but it is decent on skatepark and absolutely fantastic on bridge.
TC in general is a great mode for Rapid Blaster Pro Deco, but it is decent on skatepark and absolutely fantastic on bridge.
I had a good mix of Patrick v Patrick and i'm only A-.
Is it the case that the hardcore players try to pick the team they think will be less popular because the less popular teams win, or is there something in the math calculations that makes it more likely that the less popular team wins more?
Is it the case that the hardcore players try to pick the team they think will be less popular because the less popular teams win, or is there something in the math calculations that makes it more likely that the less popular team wins more?
Under the old splatfest rules, the common assumption was to pick the less popular team under the theory that the masses of younger/worse players would gravitate to a particular side, therefore the smaller team with the better (or at least more voting-savvy) players would take a clear majority of the actual matches. There was also some talk about the math and psychological aspect of playing mirror matches on the more popular team but I was never sure if that was actually accurate or not.
It's harder now to judge any of it since teams are (theoretically) matched with and against people of similar skill level, both making matches more even all around and making it harder to get a grasp of popularity numbers. For instance in the higher ranks, the reports seemed to be a ridiculous preponderance of Patrick players compared to Bobs, with tons of Patrick dittos, even though Bob eventually showed to have a clear voting majority.
So far when teams are less popular they have less mirror matches and more matches vs the opposing team.Then there's the 6x multiplier for battle wins which makes things hilariously lopsided lol.
...Still doesn't explain the insane amount of Patrick mirrors despite his lower popularity though.
edit: Too slow.
CoconutTank
Member
Originally in US splatfests, the more popular team was usually more likely to win, despite the x2 multiplier on win's percentage. At some point that got bumped up to x4, then to x6, which basically made popularity irrelevant. During this time, we started seeing the pattern we see today; the more popular side would lose more matches than the less popular side. At that point, more invested players decided to wait until they could determine which side was less popular and bandwagon on that, which basically then became a self-fulfilling prophecy.
There aren't many concreate reason(s) for why the more popular side is likely to lose more matches, but there's a lot of conjecture. In particular, the trend is opposite in Japanese Splatfests; the side that is more popular is more likely to go on to win more matches!
One theory is that, at least for the western world, the general population consists of less veteran players, and so the side that has more players is more likely to have more of them.
Another theory is that, due to the fact that mirror matches can happen, the good players on the popular side are more likely to play games vs themselves, whereas the good players on the less popular side are more likely to play games vs the other side, so the matches played by good players on the less popular side tend to matter more often.
Such a smooth sailing Splatfest. Splatfest power and just overall speed of it being increased makes Splatfest so much more enjoyable.
Heh, who were you up against from NSTC?
Yeah. It seems really bizarre that, even with match-making, that one team can beat the other one by a full 10% swing. That feels really statistically impossible, if Splatfest Power Point are truly an indicator of skill.
As you suggested, there's gotta be something going on with the actual level of aggregate skill of the two teams that isn't reflected in the points. And it's gotta be spilling into the match-making, somehow. Given all the Patrick dittos in S and S+, could it be that the 1400-1500s Spongebob teams was running into more 1600+ teams than vice-versa? I know my 1650 Patrick squad saw exactly one scary 1780 Spongebob team (that wiped the floor with us) but maybe Spongbobs saw more of these kinds of games? That, looking through a smaller set of Patrick teams, the match-making was just settling on a slightly higher-ranked team in the queue. Maybe the rank distribution put the squeeze on the middle Spongebob ranks?
It's weird. I wish I could see the data that Nintendo probably sees.
Aldric
Member
Nice. The Pro Deco is great on Camp Triggerfish, Kelp Dome, Mahi Mahi Resort, Piranha Pit and Hammerhead Bridge. It sucks on Flounder Heights and Urchin Underpass though.
GAFHouse V will mark the anniversary of Splatoon.
Quote for signup link
Quote for discord link
Theme: Past to present
Date: Saturday 28th May 2016
Time: 5PM EST (10PM BST)
Restriction: DLC maps and weapons banned. TC and RM banned.
Format: Round robin [Bo5] then grand final [Bo7] - restrictions lifted in grand final (see theme).
Non-DLC maps
Rig, Mall, Urchin, Walleye, Blackbelly
Non-DLC weapons
EDIT: Some further tidbits
-This will be reposted in 2 weeks for extra visibility
-Target of 16 signups for 4 teams
-All teams will be fully randomised on the day of GAFHouse (hopefully live in a discord channel with a bot) to meet an average rank quota
EDIT2: Even further tidbits
~~~Signups currently at 8/16~~~
-Teams will be named Squidstyler, Nom, Izayoi, or Violet.
-Tags (see bolded) will be Kito |OT|, .52 Kito, GoldKito, Kito_0 respectively.
-Randomisation via discord: each entrant will be given a temporary rank tag on discord to create rank pools. Players will then be randomly drawn from these pools by a bot. [There will also be streamer tag/pools to ensure each team has a potential streamer. (As teams are assembled member by member, it should be a hype event of its own.)]
EDIT3: etc
-Map rotations have been carefully selected. To be revealed on the day.
-6 temporary discord channels: draw, results and teams.
Quote for signup link
Quote for discord link
Theme: Past to present
Date: Saturday 28th May 2016
Time: 5PM EST (10PM BST)
Restriction: DLC maps and weapons banned. TC and RM banned.
Format: Round robin [Bo5] then grand final [Bo7] - restrictions lifted in grand final (see theme).
Non-DLC maps
Rig, Mall, Urchin, Walleye, Blackbelly
Non-DLC weapons
- .96 Gal
- Dual Squelcher
- Aerosprays
- (Forge) SSP
- (Custom) Blaster
- (Custom) Jet Squelcher
- (Custom) Splattershot Jr.
- (Tentatek) Splattershot
- .52 Gal (Deco)
- Rapid Blaster (Deco)
— - Squiffers
- E-litre 3K
- (Kelp) Splat Charger
- (Kelp) Splatterscope
— - Splat Rollers
- (Gold) Dynamo Roller
EDIT: Some further tidbits
-This will be reposted in 2 weeks for extra visibility
-Target of 16 signups for 4 teams
-All teams will be fully randomised on the day of GAFHouse (hopefully live in a discord channel with a bot) to meet an average rank quota
EDIT2: Even further tidbits
~~~Signups currently at 8/16~~~
-Teams will be named Squidstyler, Nom, Izayoi, or Violet.
-Tags (see bolded) will be Kito |OT|, .52 Kito, GoldKito, Kito_0 respectively.
-Randomisation via discord: each entrant will be given a temporary rank tag on discord to create rank pools. Players will then be randomly drawn from these pools by a bot. [There will also be streamer tag/pools to ensure each team has a potential streamer. (As teams are assembled member by member, it should be a hype event of its own.)]
EDIT3: etc
-Map rotations have been carefully selected. To be revealed on the day.
-6 temporary discord channels: draw, results and teams.
PreyingShark
Member
Signed up.
Dear future team,
I'm sorry.
Sincerely,
Nathan
Dear future team,
I'm sorry.
Sincerely,
Nathan
Burning Justice
the superior princess
I wanted to sign up last time, but I was out most of the day it took place. I think I'll be around this time...
It is. (Gold) Dynamo Roller = Gold Dynamo Roller and Dynamo Roller.
A real throwback ruleset would ban splat zones too.
Oh, you just wrote aerosprays for both of those so I was confused
I think Splat Zones was early enough. What was it, like a day?
But then why not include N-Zap and Port that were unlocked at the same time?
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Was thinking of making a thread for Choukaigi for fun, not sure if people may be interested though.