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Tetsuya Takahashi's message on Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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Did you know real boobs are not completely stationary? Shocking I know.
Let's look at them all.
I disagree. I think Pyra's is much more in your face about it.
Mister Wolf
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If you insist. Details such as cleavage, midriff, or the garter w/thigh high boots seem more designed with titillation rather than practicality in mind for a combat android, hence why I don't see anything better or worse than the choices for Pyra.
Neoleo2143
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I was just thinking. For all the silliness that Pyra's outfit has, at least it has a decent pair of shoes and doesn't look actively painful to traverse landscapes in.
Xeno* definitely has a history of risqué (and dumb) character designs, but during the Xenoblade 2 stream Pyra's ass is constantly in your face as you walk around. Having another character constantly between the player character and the camera is annoying enough in general, though.
Iva Demilcol
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Wasn't Shulk and the Bionis both the body of Samza? They've had this kind of stuff in Xenoblade since the first game.
No, but people won't stop complaining. I'm okay with Pyra and Rex's designs, there are others fuglier imo.
True, the lack of high heels on Pyra is noteworthy.
I admit to not being a fan at all of Rex's design (or the decision to skew so young with him), but I do expect there'll be decent alternatives for his look.
You know... it's interesting how each titan theme has a city and jobs that revolve around what theme the titan is. Granblue Fantasy legit has the same thing. Each island has a different theme and each city is based around the theme of the island. I like it.
To another note, I really hope we also see a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles X still and I really hope that if we do, we get some graphical improvements to some degree. I know during the Treehouse event they said it was still undergoing polish (I noticed a fair bit of pop in and it just seemed like X had more foliage etc). Maybe it's just me but yeah... you'd think with the Switch, we'd see some graphical improvements. Then again, it was being developed along side X so... guess that wasn't possible.
To another note, I really hope we also see a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles X still and I really hope that if we do, we get some graphical improvements to some degree. I know during the Treehouse event they said it was still undergoing polish (I noticed a fair bit of pop in and it just seemed like X had more foliage etc). Maybe it's just me but yeah... you'd think with the Switch, we'd see some graphical improvements. Then again, it was being developed along side X so... guess that wasn't possible.
I'd still say Pyra takes it.
They're all designed to titillate. For me it's Pyra literally just wearing thong shorts with requisite straps, showing as much skin as possible. KOS MOS wears a leotard or has a flap/non-skin-colored-skin covering her bits/thighs. But again - just my personal opinion, since I always find exposed thighs/cheeks/lower back more titillating than cleavage.
ZombiePlatypus
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I mean, I'll play this and am super excited for it, but please Takahashi. Please let the next Xeno project be on caliber with Xenogears and Xenosaga in terms of story-scope and concept.
Covered breasts and short shorts...I'd say Pyra's outfit covers the necessary body parts. Cleavage, underboobs, panty shots...that's more in your face IMO.
Waddle Dee
Member
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. This character is blatant pedo garbage that you see all the time in games like this.
Xenoblade didn't really fall into this trap to my knowledge, so why this?
She was not at all in Takahashi's game. (Episode.1) Xenosaga 2 and 3 weren't done by him.
I don't really dig the character designs, and I really did not care for XCX. That being said, Takahashi can make some great games, so I'm still hoping this is great. I hope it's more similar to the original than XCX. More tight and story focused and less single player mmo. We shall see.
He was a supervisor, he didn't write or direct it
The game while good, is still very much not in line with something he created.
I think it's more the massive amount of skin and the fact that the shorts are bordering panty-level of coverage and appear disconnected from the rest of her clothes that makes it so in your face. If her shorts were a little longer, then her design would actually be fairly tame as far as blatant fan service goes.
'Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra (2006): Author, Music Coordinator, Supervisor of Scenario and Database'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Takahashi
Says he was the author, but I don't know how reliable this is.
I never said they weren't. That said, what one finds most appealing is indeed subjective.
Now we're using words for the sake of using them, I see. Would make more sense if they established an age for her to begin with (it's not like the other games didn't do so for its casts, either).
And there were such examples of appealing to more prurient sensibilities from the original Xenoblade mentioned already. The speed set armors for
Fiora
kunonabi
Member
Plenty of woman at that size have breasts that big.
so what? i still dont like it
Waddle Dee
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You telling me she's anything older than 12? They could have given her any face they wanted and they chose the one that makes her look like a child.
He was credited as the author due to it being Xenosaga, his title on Episode II was Original Author & Supervisor. Norihiko Yonesaka was the scenario writer for both II and III.
He closely worked on ep III, even back then it was announced as "Takashi's return after ep. II fiasco".
Mister Wolf
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So being a supervisor for a game from his company that represents his Xeno series he obviously was ok with the two androids design.
Takahashi and Soraya were fired from the Xenosaga series after 1, no involvement in 2 and with 3, a very strained and distant relationship with the series due to Namco and the premature wrap up. He did not have any sort of clout with 3 like he did with 1, let alone direct it.
Sure he was more involved, but it didn't come close to where was before and where he stands now.
Looking at Pyra from the side...that is a hell of a lot of skin lol.
hosannainexcelsis
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I mean, the designer is a porn artist. So...
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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There's basically no chance NoA won't censor Pyra. lol
kunonabi
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Thought you were implying that they were unrealistic. My bad, carry on.
cm osi
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she sure is well endowed to be material for pedos
Most likely. A lot of designs like this are simplified and so don't necessarily represent a character's true age.
They've already uploaded a bunch of footage of her without any censoring at all.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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They censored Lyn, and they also censored Fatal frame which was rated M. I don't think Pyra will stay there very long without being censored but I could be wrong.
With the exception of this guy and the one in the trailer thumbnail, no one they've shown so far has a face that looks particularly old (or realistic) in the art style they chose.
We'll see. Not seeing anything worse than anything in either Kozaki Fire Emblem in her case, I'd say.
Xeno games always had fanservice, even if you go as far back as Gears. No pants-Elly, the elements, Kislev NPC...
My issue with this Xeno game character design is that it is really ugly. Ugly faces, ugly color schemes.
Soraya said Namco was always very supportive of them actually, Monolith itself was the one that fucked them over when they decided to change the series' direction with II. Ep. II failed and hence they brought back Takahishi for III.
My issue with this Xeno game character design is that it is really ugly. Ugly faces, ugly color schemes.
Soraya said Namco was always very supportive of them actually, Monolith itself was the one that fucked them over when they decided to change the series' direction with II. Ep. II failed and hence they brought back Takahishi for III.
Lin was actually underaged to a large degree.
There are plenty of instances where they have done this and still made changes later.
Mister Wolf
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Did Camilla get censored?
Is this true? Yikes
They brought him back in a supervisory role. Soraya wasn't there, Tanaka gone, Mitsuda, etc.
The only point I'm trying to make is that in comparison, the game and character designs were a far cry from Episode 1's scientist Shion and largely unsexualized KOS-MOS to unbuttoned pants and underboob crotch hole Androids.
I'm seeing as many troll posts from japanese people if not more than here.
Some are saying it's too "JRPG" (Huh...) or that it's a PS2 HD remaster.
It is really not unusual for artists of any kind to also do pornographic art.
We never see her bottom half outside of maybe 1 or 2 scenes I think. And her char model is always on her mount.
Did Camilla get censored?
Didn't Xenogears's artist do some porn as well? Or am I thinking of Xenosaga's?