Elfforkusu
Member
It is mostly lighting and (facial) animation, there's plenty of room to improve without throwing out what they have. The models are good enough, imo
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Shenmue III The 1st Teaser | PS4
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Wonder Peter
Member
I hope they delay the models and animations needs a lot of work. I hope they fix those even if they need to delay it once more
So, true to the original then.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Holy shit, those puppet faces...
FeenixRising
Banned
They couldn't holla at SCEWWS for help on the faces??
The game looks great otherwise
The game looks great otherwise
It lacks... soul. It gives me the same feeling when I watch these fan-made Ocarina of Time UE4 remakes. I hope Shenmue 3 will not be the next example of "Famous game developer failed to meet the fan expectation with the long awaited sequel/spiritual sequel after separation with the original publisher" trend.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Shenmue was the most expensive project ever made. This is made for (relatively) peanuts in comparison.
The production values of this trailer was also poor. The logo was terrible, and what was with the title being introduced several times?
The lack of eyelight, and facial animations makes it look worse than Andromeda. Total uncanny valley.
It is very early, and TBF, there is actually a real chance that it will look much better as we move forward.
The production values of this trailer was also poor. The logo was terrible, and what was with the title being introduced several times?
The lack of eyelight, and facial animations makes it look worse than Andromeda. Total uncanny valley.
It is very early, and TBF, there is actually a real chance that it will look much better as we move forward.
Jawmuncher
Member
Hoping this is just them showing it too early
Just in case people aren't reading the YouTube description:
Anyway, a mixed bag, but mostly good stuff IMO.
I'm sure 99% of complaints about the teaser will be the facial animations, and that's justified because some of it doesn't look done yet in some spots, while other parts look pretty okay, actually.
It's a game with another 12-16 months before release though, so y'know. Don't get too in a twist about the bits that aren't done yet. I just wish they maybe avoided showing parts where they basically hadn't animated the faces, hahaha.
Body animations = good. Ryo doing his kung fu shit (that's the technical term innit?) looked really fucking nice. Makes me excited for the combat.
Environments = WOW. Top fucking notch, super vibrant, nicely detailed. I'm not surprised that they look like this considering they were an early priority for YSnet. Bailu village looks massively updated from the last time we saw it, Choubu looks dope, and that shot of the boat heading up the river was amazing.
Camerawork = Some of that's pretty good. Some of it needs work. The one-sided fight against the old man on the docks looked neat. Actually all the fighting looked good, IMO.
Lighting = Mixed. Looks good in some places, but washes out the character models in others. Again, fight with the old man on the docks at sunset was hotttttt. The fight with Mr Muscles (the affectionate fan nickname for the ripped dude) looked good too. That's the Great Wall of China location, I believe.
Models = Kinda depends on the light. For the third time, that old man fight made Ryo's model look great. Mr Muscles looks good, Shenhua looks better in motion than the render released last week. Nothing is obviously final here, and the original Shenmue games saw models updated through production too. I noticed what I think are a few placeholder assets too, which wouldn't be a first.
I'm pleasantly surprised. It was always going to be Shenmue on a shoestring but there's still a pretty strong sense of scale here, and lots of time left for polish.
Anyway, a mixed bag, but mostly good stuff IMO.
I'm sure 99% of complaints about the teaser will be the facial animations, and that's justified because some of it doesn't look done yet in some spots, while other parts look pretty okay, actually.
It's a game with another 12-16 months before release though, so y'know. Don't get too in a twist about the bits that aren't done yet. I just wish they maybe avoided showing parts where they basically hadn't animated the faces, hahaha.
Body animations = good. Ryo doing his kung fu shit (that's the technical term innit?) looked really fucking nice. Makes me excited for the combat.
Environments = WOW. Top fucking notch, super vibrant, nicely detailed. I'm not surprised that they look like this considering they were an early priority for YSnet. Bailu village looks massively updated from the last time we saw it, Choubu looks dope, and that shot of the boat heading up the river was amazing.
Camerawork = Some of that's pretty good. Some of it needs work. The one-sided fight against the old man on the docks looked neat. Actually all the fighting looked good, IMO.
Lighting = Mixed. Looks good in some places, but washes out the character models in others. Again, fight with the old man on the docks at sunset was hotttttt. The fight with Mr Muscles (the affectionate fan nickname for the ripped dude) looked good too. That's the Great Wall of China location, I believe.
Models = Kinda depends on the light. For the third time, that old man fight made Ryo's model look great. Mr Muscles looks good, Shenhua looks better in motion than the render released last week. Nothing is obviously final here, and the original Shenmue games saw models updated through production too. I noticed what I think are a few placeholder assets too, which wouldn't be a first.
I'm pleasantly surprised. It was always going to be Shenmue on a shoestring but there's still a pretty strong sense of scale here, and lots of time left for polish.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
Not only their faces, but everyone look like a toy. It's weird.
I really want this game, but I seriously hope that they fix that.
SatoAilDarko
Member
It's literally like they're wearing those novelty rubber masks.
Barry Burton
Member
Environments look gorgeous. Characters look rough, but overall, looks like it's coming along nicely. It's still a ways off, obviously.
Von Krukru
Banned
There's stylized, and then there's shitty.
I would have legit be happy if they juste kept the Shenmue II assets and dreamcast graphics!
Shenmue is dead to me anyway, I'm all about that Kamurocho night life now!
Ryo Hazuki
Member
Noboru Wataya
Banned
I am a big fan of shenmue, and I put my $100 to the kickstarter. I will play anything they give me, no matter how it looks or how it reviews. But those models are very rough, the contrasted lighting makes it look like a college project. I know it's a ways off and I hope they have the resources to iron all this out nearer the end of development.
Am I the only one who would have loved it if they could make a 3rd game using the same engine and updated assets from the first two games? I would have loved the consistency.
Am I the only one who would have loved it if they could make a 3rd game using the same engine and updated assets from the first two games? I would have loved the consistency.
I think at least one Shenmue fan will be happy this exists. The alternative is not existing which would be more disappointing.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
I loved it. The music and art is sublime!!
Wonder Peter
Member
Why did they changed Shenhua clothes? 
@ShenmueGuru
Member
At the risk of getting into trouble, its worth it to see some of the shocking reactions ive read over the last 6 pages.
In the name of transparency, I can say that 90% of what was in that trailer we were shown a year ago at the Kickstarter dinner. There is a strategy to what's being shown. If you think this was put together last week that's your business, I am just telling you that the majority of that footage is at least a year old, some even 18 months old now.
Take from it what you will. Also, for those looking for Yakuza level character detail, maybe throw a few extra bucks onto the ongoing PayPal for the game, since this is a low funded title without a multi million dollar development studio behind it.
In the name of transparency, I can say that 90% of what was in that trailer we were shown a year ago at the Kickstarter dinner. There is a strategy to what's being shown. If you think this was put together last week that's your business, I am just telling you that the majority of that footage is at least a year old, some even 18 months old now.
Take from it what you will. Also, for those looking for Yakuza level character detail, maybe throw a few extra bucks onto the ongoing PayPal for the game, since this is a low funded title without a multi million dollar development studio behind it.
That has a bigger variety of facial expressions than Ryo in that trailer...More fluid as well.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, this is what I expected Shenmoo 3 to look like
an icon of how to waste money, huehuehue
an icon of how to waste money, huehuehue
NeoZeedeater
Member
Why did they change her into a completely different person?Why did they changed Shenhua clothes?
So like, what you're really noticing is the proportions are all jacked up, and there's nothing to distract from how wide Ryo's cheeks are. The original game and 2 uses the bandage as a focal point next to his eyes, nose and mouth, and helps distract you from how terribly spaced everything is. Shenmue III doesn't have that luxury (unless they add it in in the future) but I imagine it's not too late in development to iron out the facial structure.
There's stylized, and then there's shitty.
VolticArchangel
Member
Not gonna worry about facial animations for a game that most of us have been waiting for 16 years and this is not even remotely close to the final build.
The positive side about this feedback from everyone is that they'll take notice of this immediately and start working on them sooner, rather than later, as might have planned already, because of how viral this criticism is gonna go from here.
Cannot wait for a full fledged trailer.
The positive side about this feedback from everyone is that they'll take notice of this immediately and start working on them sooner, rather than later, as might have planned already, because of how viral this criticism is gonna go from here.
Cannot wait for a full fledged trailer.
Noboru Wataya
Banned
Thank you for sharing this, it has put my mind at ease.
Wishmaster92
Member
I'm digging the graphics a lot. Reminds me of ps2 era cg. I can't wait for this game!
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
those animations :O
you all need to keep those graphics expectations in check. lol
you all need to keep those graphics expectations in check. lol
Jawbreaker
Member
Yikes.
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Speaking of gifs...
I think people can maybe chill out a bit. There's a big emphasis on this being WIP, and some bits, like the above gif, actually look pretty neat. Let 'em finish the game.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
They could have legit used the Dreamcast engine and I would be pigshit happy. I should about their faces but I don't. This could be storyboards over a sound track and I would have forked over $60.
Zombie James
Banned
Facial animations need some serious work but besides that I think it's coming along pretty well.
klabautermann
Member
As said a million times above me, lack of facial animations and model rigging make it look pretty lifeless, but I'm sure this is very early in-development footage. Main theme still hits so good. Color me excited.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Yeah I was wrong. Still it's not like Sony has a say in what happens in this game, so idk why people are bringing them up. Any down falls this game may have ain't up to Sony.