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whatsinaname · Jul 27, 2016

EDIT: More news, and not of the good kind. Update removes some gpedit options from WIndows 10 Pro edition.
Including the ability to

1) Turn off Microsoft consumer experiences (a feature where third party apps can be pushed to your computer.)

2) Turn off Windows tips.

3) Turn off lock screen.

4) Disable app store.

Nzyme32 said:
It's getting worse - Windows 10 Pro will now be prevented from editing certain Group Policies to prevent cutting out unwanted "features"

Original OP:

Well, looks like after the anniversary update users will not see an off switch for Cortana anymore.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3100...ana-in-the-windows-10-anniversary-update.html

Cortana, the personal digital assistant that replaced Windows 10’s search function and taps into Bing’s servers to answer your queries with contextual awareness, no longer has an off switch.

Microsoft even says as much: "With the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, the search box is now Cortana," Microsoft said in a statement. "Customers can expect the same great search experience powered by Bing and Microsoft Edge with the added benefit of Cortana’s personality."

It does look like Win 10 Professional users still have access to the switch through the Group Policy editor. And it can still be turned off through the registry irrespective of the Win 10 edition installed.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/26/you-will-use-cortana-says-microsoft/

a Master Ninja · Jul 27, 2016

"Customers can expect the same great search experience powered by Bing and Microsoft Edge with the added benefit of Cortana’s personality."

Guevara · Jul 27, 2016

Microsoft pls

ODDI · Jul 27, 2016

"I'm afraid can't let you do that John"

Alexlf · Jul 27, 2016

I'll rip it out using registry keys if I need to. Pity the average user though, this is trash.

zma1013 · Jul 27, 2016

Can you ask Cortana how to turn herself off?

Orbis Tabula · Jul 27, 2016

Well that's annoying.

NeonBlack · Jul 27, 2016

So now we are taking away features. Maybe I should go back to 7.

Xamtheking · Jul 27, 2016

Yeah but I made Cortana use both Chrome as the browser it opens and Google as the search engine it redirects to in the web page
Suck it

Astral/H3X · Jul 27, 2016

Uh.... did people have a problem with Cortana?

Casimir · Jul 27, 2016

And annoying shit like this why I'm buying a Macbook pro again.

Sakura · Jul 27, 2016

I have updates turned off precisely because of stuff like this.

Giolon · Jul 27, 2016

H3XAntiStyle said:
Uh.... did people have a problem with Cortana?

They don't like their personal information being sent to Microsoft (or whatever company). I don't really like it either, and it's why I don't use services like Google Now.

Akronis · Jul 27, 2016

H3XAntiStyle said:
Uh.... did people have a problem with Cortana?

Why would Microsoft want to force people to use it like this? Why would they make it so difficult to turn off now?

It doesn't matter if it's a problem or not, some people just don't prefer it. Options trump benefits always.

iavi · Jul 27, 2016

Casimir said:
And annoying shit like this why I'm buying a Macbook pro again.

For Siri to always be on as well lol

A-V-B · Jul 27, 2016

Dunno why I felt like posting this. I literally have no idea, except that I've been watching this show on a binge.

Blizzard · Jul 27, 2016

Sakura said:
I have updates turned off precisely because of stuff like this.

In Windows 10? How did you manage to turn updates off?

Odrion · Jul 27, 2016

"too late, you all updated to windows 10 suckeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers."

Ragnorok64 · Jul 27, 2016

Does that mean it's always listening?

B-B-Bomba! · Jul 27, 2016

Because fuck you, that's why.

Htown · Jul 27, 2016

"You're gonna use these features whether you want to or not!"

Cyan · Jul 27, 2016

H3XAntiStyle said:
Uh.... did people have a problem with Cortana?

Yes. It turns on randomly for no reason in the middle of other shit.

Even if that weren't the case, I'd still want to be able to completely deactivate it.

gamz · Jul 27, 2016

Why would you turn it off?

Lucumo · Jul 27, 2016

Suck it, Windows 10 users

LUFTRAUSER · Jul 27, 2016

This sucks. I don't want to use Cortana.

At least I still have a Macbook Pro.

Michael F. Assbender · Jul 27, 2016

Casimir said:
And annoying shit like this why I'm buying a Macbook pro again.

Bingo.

Except I'll be buying my first after a lifetime as a Windows user.

iavi said:
For Siri to always be on as well lol

Except Siri can be disabled very easily.

Xamtheking · Jul 27, 2016

Cyan said:
Yes. It turns on randomly for no reason in the middle of other shit.

Even if that weren't the case, I'd still want to be able to completely deactivate it.

You can stop Cortana from uploading information to the cloud and wipe what it already has in this update

EvilMario · Jul 27, 2016

I was just preparing to upgrade to Windows 10 this morning as the deadline approaches. Now I am once again filled with doubt.

RumblePuff · Jul 27, 2016

So if I'm searching for a local app installed on my laptop is going to use cortana and send it off to Microsoft servers?

Vibranium · Jul 27, 2016

What if you already turned it off? Will the update make it work again?

I'll just turn it off in the registry, but yeah, super shitty.

Cyan · Jul 27, 2016

gamz said:
Why would you turn it off?

What are we, walled-garden Mac users now? Maybe we want to be able to customize our experience as we see fit?

The Elite · Jul 27, 2016

A-V-B said:
Dunno why I felt like posting this. I literally have no idea, except that I've been watching this show on a binge.

You're doing all the right things here.

Keep watching.

Frustrated_me · Jul 27, 2016

Pro Windows 10 advocate here, this is not a good look on Microsoft. I'm all for updating the user-base to the latest and greatest but removing the option to disable a feature is removing a feature in-itself.

Netherscourge · Jul 27, 2016

H3XAntiStyle said:
Uh.... did people have a problem with Cortana?

Well, yea... it kinda stores your passwords, WIFI information, personal data, website histories, contacts and other online habits on Microsoft's servers for ... reasons.

ThoughtsOfSpeaking · Jul 27, 2016

Lmao. Knew something like this was coming.

It will probably be fixed once people kick up a big enough stink but still. Typical Microsoft.

Xamtheking · Jul 27, 2016

Here's what you won't be able to do after the update:
Use the search bar like a search bar of old, it'll be all Cortana
Here's what you will still be able to do after the update:
Stop Cortana from uploading history/searches to Microsoft
Wipe all current data Cortana has on you

xam3l · Jul 27, 2016

This is the first time I'm glad that Microsoft doesnt care about the country I live in. I can't even turn Cortana on. For now...

Krakn3Dfx · Jul 27, 2016

Yeah, this sounds about right for MS.

The more things take on the illusion of change, the more things actually stay the same.

Akronis · Jul 27, 2016

Xamtheking said:
Here's what you won't be able to do after the update:
Use the search bar like a search bar of old, it'll be all Cortana
Here's what you will still be able to do after the update:
Stop Cortana from uploading history/searches to Microsoft
Wipe all current data Cortana has on you

We have Microsoft's word that that'll actually happen, nothing else.

Ludovico · Jul 27, 2016

EvilMario said:
I was just preparing to upgrade to Windows 10 this morning as the deadline approaches. Now I am once again filled with doubt.

Same...
Laptop won't even benefit from DX12, but I still want a license for my next PC.
10 sounds, still, like a complete cluster.

Xamtheking · Jul 27, 2016

Akronis said:
We have Microsoft's word that that'll actually happen, nothing else.

That's coming straight from the PCWorld article in the OP

HarryDemeanor · Jul 27, 2016

H3XAntiStyle said:
Uh.... did people have a problem with Cortana?

She never returns my phone calls.

Chris R · Jul 27, 2016

Sweeney was right!!!!!!!!

Akronis · Jul 27, 2016

Xamtheking said:
That's coming straight from the PCWorld article in the OP

I understand that, but I'm heistant to trust Microsoft to actually delete whatever info they have on you. It's the same when you "delete an account" on a website or application. It just gets frozen and disabled, not actually deleted.

EDIT: what the fuck is up with quotes, shit ain't working right.

Gentleman Jack · Jul 27, 2016

And MS wants to charge people for this starting Saturday, right?

Sakura · Jul 27, 2016

Blizzard said:
In Windows 10? How did you manage to turn updates off?

Just disabled the update service so it can't run.

daemonic · Jul 27, 2016

Cyan said:
What are we, walled-garden Mac users now? Maybe we want to be able to customize our experience as we see fit?

Took the words right out of my mouth. I have Cortana removed and disabled (it serves no use to me), hopefully this update doesn't reinstall it and override my registry changes.

NeOak · Jul 27, 2016

Sakura said:
I have updates turned off precisely because of stuff like this.

Lol

Enjoy no security updates.

Seriously, all you had to do was get GWX.

Cyan said:
Yes. It turns on randomly for no reason in the middle of other shit.

Even if that weren't the case, I'd still want to be able to completely deactivate it.

Even on Windows Phone she can be annoying due to the search button placement.

whatsinaname · Jul 27, 2016

This issue is a minor inconvenience but it shows that MS are willing to take such decisions. Coupled with the fact that we have no more control over updates, it begins to look a lot worse.

4Tran · Jul 27, 2016

It's crap like this which makes me wonder why anyone can call Windows 10 a great operating system. Yes, you can probably find workarounds or hacks to get it to behave, but the point is that you shouldn't have to do that. Onerous features like this should have prominent enable/disable toggles so that users can use their computer they want to. Forcing features on users is about the last thing that operating systems should be doing.

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