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Shpeshal Nick · Oct 25, 2016

This is under the assumption that Scorpio itself loses the One branding also. But either way, given the direction Microsoft plans to take their gaming platform, it wouldn't make sense to continue to use Xbox One at the top of all their game cases.I would have thought that all games are just "Xbox" games, so I figure they'll probably just remove the One part from the case given all games will work going forward in (supposed) perpetuity.

I made a quick mock up to give an idea

So it's still recognisable as an Xbox One game for all existing owners but in keeping with the new direction, all games would just be Xbox game that work across all consoles. Obviously at some point, they'll most likely have a logo on the back to list which Xbox console is the "minimum base" console required to run the game, much like how iOS apps mention the minimum phone or iPad required.

Kinda like this one. Thoughts?

Because at some point, despite all games working on Xbox One (for the time being) they'll drop the name Xbox One from their consoles.

spons · Oct 25, 2016

Collingwood said:
Obviously at some point, they'll most likely have a logo on the back to list which Xbox console is the "minimum base" console required to run the game, much like how iOS apps mention the minimum phone or iPad required.

They will have to do that from the get-go because there are people who will think these games will run on their 360s. Then they'll sue Microsoft for false advertising.

This might sound far-fetched but people are inane.

Chris1 · Oct 25, 2016

I think they should have done it with the slim and just went with xbox. But now I don't think so. Scorpio will be called xbox one (insert word here).

I think releasing a new console and changing the name on cases at the same time leads to confusion.

Ran rp · Oct 25, 2016

Xbox One X

Spider_Jerusalem · Oct 25, 2016

Collingwood said:
Because at some point, despite all games working on Xbox One (for the time being) they'll drop the name Xbox One from their consoles.

No they won't. Spencer has been very clear in saying that Scorpio is part of the *Xbox One* family.

Xbox One isn't a single console anymore, but a family of products. Probably even Scorpio's successor will be part of the same family.

Andrezu · Oct 25, 2016

Xbox One Too

Majine · Oct 25, 2016

It will still be called Xbox One... something. The people who think they will just call it Xbox have no idea what they're talking about.

SlipperyFishes · Oct 25, 2016

They might end up borrowing OS version requirements and start labelling their yearly Xbox update.

Windows 10.3 for Xbox requires etc.

Always-honest · Oct 25, 2016

XboxOne Pro

Spider_Jerusalem · Oct 25, 2016

Majine said:
The people who think they will just call it Xbox have no idea what they're talking about.

And haven't fully understood what Scorpio really is.

jelly · Oct 25, 2016

I dunno, it's a branding headache when you want to show off and hype a new product.

My old thought was as you see now the games have a 360 label etc. on your dashboard so the software has distinction but the hardware going forward might not be so clear.

Scorpio would just be called 'Xbox' and perhaps a Gen 5 distinction and the new gen games are labelled something unique 360, Xbox One etc.

Raide · Oct 25, 2016

Maybe they will go for Microsoft: Play Anywhere as a branding that covers all their systems.

Poimandres · Oct 25, 2016

Spider_Jerusalem said:
And haven't fully understood what Scorpio really is.

I personally think it's basically a next gen system with native backwards compatibility. Don't care if Microsoft claim otherwise, I've seen double talk before.

krang · Oct 25, 2016

Spider_Jerusalem said:
No they won't. Spencer has been very clear in saying that Scorpio is part of the *Xbox One* family.

Xbox One isn't a single console anymore, but a family of products. Probably even Scorpio's successor will be part of the same family.

"Xbox" is the platform, "Xbox One" is the hardware line.

Salty Rice · Oct 25, 2016

Who says it isnt called Xbox One 1080p?

Jacknapes · Oct 25, 2016

I wouldn't think they would ditch the Xbox One name from packaging, they did mention that all current and future Xbox One software would work on Scorpio. I'd be assuming they'd stick with the name for now.

tapedeck · Oct 25, 2016

Chris1 said:
I think they should have done it with the slim and just went with xbox. But now I don't think so. Scorpio will be called xbox one (insert word here).

I think releasing a new console and changing the name on cases at the same time leads to confusion.

Eh, I disagree on both points.

I don't think they should have changed the packaging just for the One S, that would have certainly been confusing..its still an Xbox One just with an added function.

Scorpio is an entirely new console that happens to be 100% backwards compatible, MS should and I'm sure will drop the One designation. It'll just be Xbox Scorpio or whatever they end up calling it.

Majine said:
It will still be called Xbox One... something. The people who think they will just call it Xbox have no idea what they're talking about.

See above, and I certainly don't think they'll just call it 'Xbox'.

dragonyeuw · Oct 25, 2016

Has Scorpio been confirmed as the name, or is it just a codename to be changed once its formally unveiled?

Xater · Oct 25, 2016

dragonyeuw said:
Has Scorpio been confirmed as the name, or is it just a codename to be changed once its formally unveiled?

It's a codename.

Lucifon · Oct 25, 2016

tapedeck said:
Eh, I disagree on both points.

I don't think they should have changed the packaging just for the One S, that would have certainly been confusing..its still an Xbox One just with an added function.

Scorpio is an entirely new console that happens to be 100% backwards compatible, MS should and I'm sure will drop the One designation. It'll just be Xbox Scorpio or whatever they end up calling it.

See above, and I certainly don't think they'll just call it 'Xbox'.

No chance, that would only confuse matters much more. The branding is staying the same, Xbox One is the console platform.

Bits N Pieces · Oct 25, 2016

It's part of the 'Xbox One Family' so whatever they decide to officially call Scorpio, it will be the Xbox One ... something.

The name and brand ain't going anywhere, this gen.

Banjo-Kazooie · Oct 25, 2016

BeforeU · Oct 25, 2016

We will know in fall 2017

FarFromAnyGame · Oct 25, 2016

Why do people think of the Scorpio as a next generation console? It's just a better Xbox One. They'll call it Xbox One!!

Chris1 · Oct 25, 2016

tapedeck said:
Eh, I disagree on both points.

I don't think they should have changed the packaging just for the One S, that would have certainly been confusing..its still an Xbox One just with an added function.

Scorpio is an entirely new console that happens to be 100% backwards compatible, MS should and I'm sure will drop the One designation. It'll just be Xbox Scorpio or whatever they end up calling it.

That's kind of the point. Xbox One S, rebrand game discs to Xbox, people will know they play on Xbox because there's no newer console out. It gives you a year for people to get used to it and adjusted. Then when people know Xbox cases = Xbox one, release Scorpio with a new name detached from xbox one (like Xbox Scorpio) to get rid of the bad stigma, but still part of the xbox one family.

Now you release Xbox Scorpio, and you change all new physical cases to say just Xbox.. That's adding a ton of confusing and people will think you need Xbox Scorpio to play these new games with just "Xbox" and the old Xbox One can only play games with "Xbox One" cases. Thus I think it's not happening now, and the name of Scorpio will be Xbox One Scorpio, or whatever.

Mat-triX · Oct 25, 2016

As if calling the console "Xbox One" wasn't bad enough, now you feel it should call the games just "Xbox"? What if someone says:

"I want to play that Call of Duty (the one with the subtitle) game on my Xbox?"

FyreWulff · Oct 25, 2016

If they actually hold to games requiring to run on the base One, they will likely keep the name + branding, and any Scorpio'd games will either have a case badge or a thing on the back.

Interfectum · Oct 25, 2016

Available on Xbox Surface, Xbox One, PC

Fox_Mulder · Oct 25, 2016

I think that the Scorpio will be named Xbox Two

MemoryHumanity · Oct 25, 2016

I think it's pretty obvious that they will. I mean, they've kind of already started:

KORNdoggy · Oct 25, 2016

seeing as it's not a new gen. it will maintain the xbox one brand in some form despite how badly MS will probably want to move on from it. xbox one pro or something. it needs to be clear the games work on both systems.

spannicus · Oct 25, 2016

Xbox One S plus

Kleegamefan · Oct 25, 2016

Scorpio is an Xbox One, so no, I don't see them dropping the XB1 brand.

This needs to be clear :

1) Although Scorpio is more than 5 times more powerful than Xbox One, it is NOT a new generation Xbox. Microsoft has clearly and repeatedly specified this.

2) Since Scorpio is an Xbox One, it plays Xbox One games, of course.

3) Since Microsoft does not have their own bespoke VR solution, they will support 3rd party VR headsets like Occulus Rift and Vive

4) Since Xbox One and Xbox One S both do not have enough hardware power to drive Occulus/Vive software in an acceptable manner, Scorpio will be a requirement for VR software.

5) Since Xbox One Scorpio, at minimum, is needed for VR within the Xbox One family, these are your "exclusive Scorpio games"

That is all.

Sydle · Oct 25, 2016

Bits N Pieces said:
It's part of the 'Xbox One Family' so whatever they decide to officially call Scorpio, it will be the Xbox One ... something.

The name and brand ain't going anywhere, this gen.

This.

dragonyeuw · Oct 25, 2016

Kleegamefan said:
Scorpio is an Xbox One, so no, I don't see them dropping the XB1 brand.

This needs to be clear :

1) Although Scorpio is more than 5 times more powerful than Xbox One, it is NOT a new generation Xbox. Microsoft has clearly and repeatedly specified this.

2) Since Scorpio is an Xbox One it plays Xbox One games, of course.

3) Since Microsoft does not have their own bespoke VR solution, they will support 3rd party VR headsets like Occulus Rift and Vive

4) Since OCTOBER Xbox One and Xbox One S both do not have enough hardware power drive Occulus/Vive software in an acceptable manner, Scorpio will be a requirement for VR software.

5) Since Xbox One Scorpio, at minimum, is needed for VR within the Xbox One family, these are your "exclusive Scorpio games"

That is all.

Good breakdown.

MontyMarx · Oct 25, 2016

Xbox SCORP1O?

Whatever they end up calling it I'm sure they'll brand the software appropriately

Kilau · Oct 25, 2016

Xbox ScorpiOne

DonkeyKong · Oct 25, 2016

FarFromAnyGame said:
Why do people think of the Scorpio as a next generation console? It's just a better Xbox One. They'll call it Xbox One!!

Unless I misunderstood I thought from now on the plan was that any new hardware (scorpio , the one after that, and so on) will be backwards/forwards compatible - no more generation resets - or have I got that wrong

Kleegamefan · Oct 25, 2016

DonkeyKong said:
Unless I misunderstood I thought from now on the plan was that any new hardware (scorpio , the one after that, and so on) will be backwards/forwards compatible - no more generation resets - or have I got that wrong

That is what Microsoft is implying with their "Beyond Generations" mantra.

Conversely, Sony has alluted to a literal (albeit with ~3 year separation)iPhone iteration model..that is;

PS4
PS4 Pro
Next Generation PlayStation (PS5)
Next Generation PlayStation Pro (PS5 Pro)
Next Next Generation PlayStation (PS6)
Next Next Generation PlayStation Pro (PS6 Pro)
And so on

Yoday · Oct 25, 2016

Spider_Jerusalem said:
No they won't. Spencer has been very clear in saying that Scorpio is part of the *Xbox One* family.

Xbox One isn't a single console anymore, but a family of products. Probably even Scorpio's successor will be part of the same family.

I agree, and it's unfortunate because it's going to be hard coming up with a clear naming line that has to follow "One". Xbox One 2 is just absurd sounding, so it has to be another word or a letter. Adding on another word is going to make the name far too long, so it will likely be another letter. It's possible that they just adopt Xbox One S as the core name going forward and tack a number on the end of it like the Samsung Galaxy S series.

Another more crazy idea I've had is that if licencing reasons makes them stuck with the Xbox One brand in order to maintain compatibility going forward then they could work it into an acronym as a rebrand. The logic would be dumb, but Xbox One X(X to represent Windows 10) could be turned into XBOX.

Honestly though, I bet we see them continue with Xbox One S2. I've never seen them lean so heavily into the brand name of a slim before, which leads me to believe that the S is the start of a brand refresh that they plan to continue.

bananas · Oct 25, 2016

Call it Xbox 4K

Xbox
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox 4K
Xbox 5
Xbox 6...

And order returns to the world.

Yoday · Oct 25, 2016

DonkeyKong said:
Unless I misunderstood I thought from now on the plan was that any new hardware (scorpio , the one after that, and so on) will be backwards/forwards compatible - no more generation resets - or have I got that wrong

That's the idea, and Phil has said it is the plan, but he won't commit to it because the market needs to dictate that it is the way to go.

Kleegamefan · Oct 25, 2016

bananas said:
Call it Xbox 4K

Xbox
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox 4K
Xbox 5
Xbox 6...

And order returns to the world.

I like it and so they will not do this for sure

ForkNetwork · Oct 25, 2016

They should call the Scorpio the Xbox SSS

Astral Dog · Oct 25, 2016

To Scorpio?

timberger · Oct 25, 2016

Don't be ridiculous. Scorpio is an Xbox One, it will have the same library and releases as Xbox One. How would changing the branding on game cases make sense for the majority of Xbox gamers who won't be bothering with the Scorpio model?

Welfare · Oct 25, 2016

MS seem to like having a letter designation to new models of consoles

Xbox 360
Xbox 360 S
Xbox 360 E

Xbox One
Xbox One S

So Scorpio will probably be just a new letter. They could go Xbox One Pro, Xbox One Elite, or my favorite, Xbox One Ultra.

jelly · Oct 25, 2016

Poimandres said:
I personally think it's basically a next gen system with native backwards compatibility. Don't care if Microsoft claim otherwise, I've seen double talk before.

I think this too. Microsoft won't admit it though for obvious reasons but it doesn't really matter, they are still supporting Xbox One and will for a good few years yet but I don't doubt a time will come in less than 4 years when one of their tent pole games won't make an appearance on Xbox One and be Scorpio exclusive or so watered down that you avoid it at all costs.

Rourkey · Oct 25, 2016

Xbox "we heard yer" one

HStallion · Oct 25, 2016

They will just rename the Scorpio the Xbox 2

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