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Star Citizen to use only Vulkan API
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fabricated backlash
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Dooms Vulkan Implementation made me a Believer
lordfuzzybutt
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Good. DX12 makes no sense unless you are a MS 1st party dev.
On the Nvidia side of things it seems to work from the 600 series to the newest stuff: https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver
On AMD's side anything from the HD 7000 series and up is compatible: http://www.amd.com/en-gb/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vulkan
Also not limited to Win 10 like DX12 is, works on Linux, literally no reason to go with DX12 at this point
AntiFacebook
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Do the ps4 and xbo even support vulkan?
unapersson
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I like that hint of possible Linux support, not sure if that has been mentioned before.
Patrick S.
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Is Star Citizen coming to either one of them?
Is it ever coming out at all?
Patrick S.
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AntiFacebook
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Not yet, but that's the way those kickstarter games work. They always announce console versions at a later point.
Star Citizen is the most funded game to date and seem to have years left in development
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Deleted member 465307
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I don't think they do? I think Switch might. Star Citizen seems like a game that would release on PS5 and whatever Xbox exists then, and if Vulkan is still around at that time, I'm sure both of those future hypothetical consoles will support it.
Sniffynose
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Makes sense to me, would be nice if more support headed in that direction. DX12 is basically a first party Microsoft tool locked down to windows 10 "store" so piss on that if you can get the same or better performance with much better compatibility across several platforms.
MasterOfPastures
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As mentioned by them before, two things need to happen for SC to come to consoles: more power (PS5 or XB2), and removal of the cert process for their updates. They plan to release new authored content every two weeks or so, and no way can they wait a month for an update to be approved. See: tf2 on consoles.
MrCunningham
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I don't think the OG XBone and PS4 supports Vulkan. The PS4 Pro probably does, but I doubt it is really needed since the PS4 and PS4 Pro have their own low level API's. Scorpio probably could run Vulkan, but I doubt that it is supported by Microsoft. Microsoft exclusively uses DirectX for their consoles. Switch does support Vulkan however.
PS4 has its own low-level API from the day 1 [which is most likely even faster because it is optimized only for one hardware and one OS]. There is no need to have recently unveiled DX12/Vulkan on it.
Xbone launched with DX11, but then it switched to [slimmer version of] DX12.
Sad Affleck
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This is great news.
MrCunningham
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Pretty sure that they mentioned Linux support in the past for Star Citizen. But the great thing about Vulkan is that it run's natively in WINE (windows compatibility later for Linux) as well.
Look at the performance that DOOM 2016 gets on Linux through Wine on Ubuntu: https://youtu.be/AWZvwhwT1Sk?t=209
It is insane.
When development hell freezes over.
Candescence
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The more games that push Vulkan, the better - there's simply little reason to use DX12, and if more devs finally move away from DirectX, maybe the industry can teach MS a little lesson. Maybe.
But in any case, nice to see SC going the more flexible route that lets more people play.
But in any case, nice to see SC going the more flexible route that lets more people play.
LelouchZero
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Vulkan is a really cool and flexible API, it's awesome to see that more developers are using it!
funkystudent
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Hope more games follow suit
Johannsson
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Vulkan is a really cool
Btw the work on migration to DX12 started more than year ago.
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You are mistaking writing the whole engine from scratch with changing rendering pipeline to use full advantage of new APIs.
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You are mistaking writing the whole engine from scratch with changing rendering pipeline to use full advantage of new APIs.
Well, at least they agreed on the graphics api.
lol
What development hell?
Game has enormous scope, so it takes time to develop. Watch this and you will understand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c2DogQL95o
Dictator93
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Saweeet.
Replace "pics" with "receipts".
Replace "pics" with "receipts".
To xb1 or PS4? Nah. To their successors? Maybe. It depends on how much peripheral support they have and whether or not their customer populations would be arbitrarily separated by MS and Sony. Beyond the technical problems of bringing SC to current gen, a problem in the road for next gen consoles would be that Chris Roberts wants all the game populations playing in the same simulated persistent universe. MS and Sony are not too friendly about allowing intergame meshing across the competitor platforms historically.
I think SC is a statistical outlier at this point. So much so, that predicting facets of its development and course vis-a-vis otehr kickstarters is not so... convincing.
CryEngine was originally chosen under a uniquiqe context and set of circumstances when you think about it. At a time before UE4 when the game's internal scope was different in a number of ways. CE was, at the time, the most advanced engine graphically and had the vehicle set up support to make the game. Now since the game has had so much funding, they can afford to match the design scope on a technical level, hence how they have basically a large portion of the old CryEngine rendering and architecture team in Frankfurt and a lot of low level graphics coders in the UK.
Aztechnology
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I like it.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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One more joining the right side of the history. Vulkan needs to be a standard.
Sure, but they've already had to rewrite the physics and entity management to get their multiple physics grid thing and 64 bit coordinates going, and also rewritten the netcode, and part of the animation system, and now graphics too.
There's what, audio left before they've gone full Theseus Paradox?
Evolution of Metal
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No, you are just incredibly biased.
We have a thread which is almost all positive so far, where the discussion revolves around what it means for SC and Vulcan, but you just have to front-load your comment and ask for trouble.
TheChewyWaffles
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This game is vaporware.
R_thanatos
Member
Glad they finally choose one, hopefully this won't cause anymore delays.
They seem to constantly release footage and content....it's not like it disappeared.
This is not true by definition. They already released multiple playable demos and components. In fact, since they already released something, it can never be vaporware any more even if the developer were to vanish completely tomorrow.
Lister
Banned
OK....
Hmmm....
Yeah, no he's right. It's not a Star Citizen thread without the same nonsense - it's never coming out, and when will the PS4 Pro version be announced.
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