How could anyone have guessed a striped controller and the color?
The person who posted that was clairvoyant?
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[Forum Rumor] Durango Beta has 2 APUs. Console and Controller plastered with stripes.
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How could anyone have guessed a striped controller and the color?
The person who posted that was clairvoyant?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Yet. Kotaku might be drip-feeding info.
Pharaoh 117
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It's good news for MS so obviously fake, right GAF?
I don't care as long as multiplats don't suffer in the end.
I don't care as long as multiplats don't suffer in the end.
Iacobellis
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And would dual APU's mean it has more power than the PS4?
SniperHunter
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yes
Both APU's wouldn't necessarily be the same power, right? And one could be relegated to non-gaming tasks or Kinect 2.0 (more likely). PS4 also has special cores for non-gaming tasks, though not a whole APU. I'm betting that, if this is true, it's for the new Kinect.
Iacobellis
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Two APUs makes no sense, even if they were planning on doubling up on certain things. The whole point of an APU is that everything is contained on one chipset so it can communicate easier, having more than one defeats the purpose. On top of that, I've heard that Durango is an SoC instead of an APU since you can't embed eSRAM on an APU.
I still think Durango will end up with higher clock speeds of some sort than rumors have stated but I don't see dual APUs happening. The zebra controller bit is interesting though.
I still think Durango will end up with higher clock speeds of some sort than rumors have stated but I don't see dual APUs happening. The zebra controller bit is interesting though.
Shalashaska161
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Dual APU's definitely means they have one for Kinect, background stuff, etc. They aren't going to throw 2 of the exact same APU's in there that would be dumb.
The more I think about it the more this seems to make sense. They could have a second, low power one for the OS/Kinect features and stuff which would free up the processing power of the other one quite a bit. It could have the same specs as we've heard before, since that's what's relevant to game performance, but more of that power could go to the games.
Codeblew
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It would have more flops but the real question is how efficient it would be running two GPU's in xfire mode.
I would be shocked if it 2 mirror apu. Really doesnt make much sense.
Everything I have read about the 2 APU design was a lower power "app" apu and then the higher power main APU.
Really an 2 apu system 1.2 tf system looks good on paper but in practice it would be terrible to code for. No way MS goes with this system. Seem just silly.
Everything I have read about the 2 APU design was a lower power "app" apu and then the higher power main APU.
Really an 2 apu system 1.2 tf system looks good on paper but in practice it would be terrible to code for. No way MS goes with this system. Seem just silly.
So what would this mean for gaming performance?
Less system resources would be dedicated to OS/Kinect stuff so the main CPU/GPU, possibly even RAM, can focus on games.
A long way. I believe it started with some of Rigby's speculation on PS4.Reiko said:
FairXchange
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If it's two APUs with one being 'lesser' than the other, perhaps it's to ensure remaining competitive with the PS4, rather than having the 'powerful' APU bogged down with all the other background tasks they have planned.
Interesting.
AgentP
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It comes from a Sony patent, which turned into rumor. The idea is a APU for CPU/GPGPU and a discrete GPU for graphics. I'm not sure how this validates a Durango rumor...
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...68".PGNR.&OS=DN/20120320068&RS=DN/20120320068
It doesn't validate anything. It's crazy this rumor went that far back.
AgentP
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It doesn't, you are imagining things. The Sony patent is real, it was the source of early PS4 rumors (which are wrong). The latest one was invented on the internet by forum dolts. They are not related other than the invention might be based on the patent. You need to stop seeing patterns where none exist.
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_the_pattern_behind_self_deception.html
So how did this forum dolt accurately guess the striped controller and color before Kotaku?
AgentP
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Who cares? Again, you are stringing bits of information into a reality you want to happen rather than looking at the data objectively. The stripes are irreverent to the dual GPU info. The most likely scenario is the poster read or knew about the same info and then threw in some made up stuff for April Fools. He has not posted anything else on the OT. Even if this story ends up being true, it is not rational for you to believe it now (evidence is far to weak, along with the date), other than for confirmation bias. You even used the fact that Proeilte said it was false as evidence that it is true, typical conspiracy theory stuff.
Angelus Errare
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You guys take NeoGAF's tagline too seriously.
AgentP
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Yes, I'm hoping you read what it is and let it sink in. It is a very powerful idea.
And if you're wrong?
Syphon Filter
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this lines uo with that old leak with 50 pages or what ever it was.lets pray its real.
[Clark Gable]
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You should put him on ignore, he's always trying to muscle in his not so subtle bias.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
The PS4 does not have DDR5 nor even DDR4 ram. It has GDDR5, which is based on DDR3 technology. I wonder if this is what people actually believe? Or maybe he was being sarcastic?
Baconsammy
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Why? Can you imagine the heat that thing will give off? And thus the box that will be needed to house it. Keep it simple, MS.
LOL.
soul creator
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_processing_unit
not sure why people assume "dual APU" automatically has to mean two of the same type of APU. It's a generic term, not a specific branding.
Seems like the most likely answer is that the 2nd one is used for background tasks, 360 BC, the low power mode, etc. But regular game developers will just focus on the "real" one.
Or it could be the Sega Saturn 2. Whee!
not sure why people assume "dual APU" automatically has to mean two of the same type of APU. It's a generic term, not a specific branding.
Seems like the most likely answer is that the 2nd one is used for background tasks, 360 BC, the low power mode, etc. But regular game developers will just focus on the "real" one.
Or it could be the Sega Saturn 2. Whee!
I really hope BD isn't calling me out since I'm not the one who originally posted it on GAF.
I hope you're reading all that BD.
Look here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52440789&postcount=3669
EightBitNate
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It was probably a fluke, but I don't even think he wanted to be taken seriously.
People in this thread going nuts. Calm down! It clearly says "forum rumor" in the goddamn title. There's high probability it's false, but you don't have to get so riled up.
Uno Venova
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Raven77
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"The Xbox 8finity will cost...$599 US Dollars!"
Also I love how people immediately dismiss this cause it was on April 1. So that must mean EVERY news story must have been fake too. You do realize some of the most accurate leaks lately have come from China. The Chinese leaker who posted BF 4 information months ago nailed it on several points, same goes for some the PS4 info that was floating around.
Not saying I necessarily believe this, but hey, its a rumor.
Also I love how people immediately dismiss this cause it was on April 1. So that must mean EVERY news story must have been fake too. You do realize some of the most accurate leaks lately have come from China. The Chinese leaker who posted BF 4 information months ago nailed it on several points, same goes for some the PS4 info that was floating around.
Not saying I necessarily believe this, but hey, its a rumor.
FairXchange
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Okay wait, is this a confirmation to it being made up? This is getting quite confusing.
EightBitNate
Member
I think so. The Chinese guy should have played along.
Who is telling the truth here?
The controller design is "allegedly rumored" to be real.
Angelus Errare
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LMAO, all of my lulz. ALL OF THEM! I think this should be a grand lesson on senselessly reguirgitating everything you read.
Oh oh lol.
AgentP
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Wrong about what? I've made no claims other than peddling unconfirmed and unsubstantiated forum rumor is unhealthy. I am wrong all he time, that is part of science. I was wrong about the PS4 having 8GB, I claimed based on the data I had that it was too expensive. I pushed back in the same way on the PS4 2Ghz "overclock" rumor along with many crazy theories OnQ has pushed.
Can I be wrong on this? Of course, I'm not a soothsayer, I'm claiming the evidence is complete bullshit and believing and pushing the rumor is nothing more than fanboy wishful thinking. IF there was a real source and a credible outlet publishing it I'd be all over the news. Right now we just have another crazy theory, they seem to pop up weekly around here and your name is attached in one way or another to all of them. It's not personal, I just hate BS.
Edit: Wow, so much happened while I was typing, lol. And yes he was calling you out, as he should. No one else was going to make a thread based on so little and risk their reputation, you made the call because you like the story.
Can Crusher
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Lol the chinese poster reply. Damn.
People just need to get with the program, MS simply isn't playing for keeps when it comes to hardware power.
People just need to get with the program, MS simply isn't playing for keeps when it comes to hardware power.
Relax. It's April not long before we get real info.
Whether BD is trolling or not. Obviously that controller info is not a troll.
And cross forum trolling is pathetic.
Well, maybe Kotaku source is this forum... nobody knows...
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