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Nirolak · Oct 8, 2014

From the SFxT thread, Ono's statement here sounds quite general:

Famitsu via Eventhubs said:
Tsubaki: Is that so!? But in all honesty, what I'm hoping for here is a sequel to the game. After all, even with Capcom vs. SNK, it wasn't until CvS2 that it became a huge hit. Even today it's still hailed as an incredible fighting game. So I was hoping for a similar development to happen with Street Fighter X Tekken.

Ono: That's what I've always been telling the company too. But at the end of the day, there are just some brick walls that a salaryman can never overcome *laughs*. For instance, if a game doesn't sell over 2 million copies, then we'd have to put the brakes on any plans for a sequel. All that means is that we weren't capable enough. And all we can do after that is to reflect on the experience, take what we can learn from it, and try to apply those lessons on some other title.

Source: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/...ring-number-darkstalkers-resurrection-copies/

Of note, here are some recent AAA games that did and didn't make it over that bar.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

Over 2 million:
-Resident Evil 6: 5.9 million
-Street Fighter IV: 3.3 million
-Marvel vs Capcom 3 Fate of Two Worlds: 2.2 million [Note: This has licensing issues and is pretty borderline.]

Not over 2 million:
-Street Fighter X Tekken: 1.7 million
-DmC Devil May Cry: 1.6 million
-Dead Rising 3: 1.4 million [Note: This was a launch title and published by MS, and DR2 did 2.9 million, so it's a bit more open.]
-Dragon's Dogma: 1.3 million
-Lost Planet 3: Less than 1 million

I left off their handheld and downloadable titles since I doubt those get the same standards applied.

Kyoufu · Oct 8, 2014

RIP Dragon's Dogma.

:'(

Mesoian · Oct 8, 2014

Capcom still somewhat lost when it comes to managing projects. Expects F2P mmo-lites to reclaim gamer interest.

News at 11.

Kyoufu said:
RIP Dragon's Dogma.

:'(

Shoulda made a PC version. Probably too late now.

yamo · Oct 8, 2014

RIP Dragons Dogma

edit: too late

BadWolf · Oct 8, 2014

So Dragon's Dogma is out the window?

Does Devil May Cry count? DMC4 sold over 2 million, it was the reboot that under-performed.

dugdug · Oct 8, 2014

We only need .7 million more people, guys. Spread the word!

ShockingAlberto · Oct 8, 2014

They sound like a company scared that a single failure could sink them.

They might be right to feel that way.

sublimit · Oct 8, 2014

Kyoufu said:
RIP Dragon's Dogma.

:'(

More like RIP Capcom.

SFenton · Oct 8, 2014

I have a feeling this standard is likely applied at other AAA publishers as well.

Mesoian · Oct 8, 2014

ShockingAlberto said:
They sound like a company scared that a single failure could sink them.

They might be right to feel that way.

They should work with better people.

Justice_Bolt · Oct 8, 2014

No Dragon Dogma sequel!? Fuck!
They are doing Deep Down instead.( *Facepalm*)

keit4 · Oct 8, 2014

Nirolak said:
-Dragon's Dogma: 1.3 million

Noooo

MavFan619 · Oct 8, 2014

Dragons Dogma and SFxT

OnionPowder · Oct 8, 2014

Street Fighter and Resident Evil the only AAA capcom games we'll see then?

How depressing.

Tenki · Oct 8, 2014

So Capcom will be Monster Hunter + Resident Evil + Street Fighter.

John Bender · Oct 8, 2014

2 million for a AAA game?
Yes, makes totally sense. No problem here.

Nirolak said:
-DmC Devil May Cry: 1.6 million

But THIS is shocking!
DMC only did 1.6 million worldwide?
On PS3 and Xbox 360 combined??

Pinko Marx · Oct 8, 2014

Capcom if we don't get a DD2 I'm going piss in all your cereal bowls. Every single one i swear to FUCKING GOD.

Comandr · Oct 8, 2014

Psh. C'mon Capcom. 1.3 is a super respectable number for a brand new IP.

digita1alchemy · Oct 8, 2014

So they're The Resident Evil Company™ now?

Edit: Totally forgot about Monster Hunter.

Nirolak · Oct 8, 2014

Justice_Bolt said:
No Dragon Dogma sequel!? Fuck!
They are doing Deep Down instead.( *Facepalm*)

Yeah, that was what I felt was likely originally, and this seems to add more evidence to the pile.

An f2p title with randomized dungeons and some loose ties to the old concepts is likely much, much cheaper to make.

koryuken · Oct 8, 2014

Kyoufu said:
RIP Dragon's Dogma.

:'(

One of the best games of last-gen.

Visualante2 · Oct 8, 2014

ShockingAlberto said:
They sound like a company scared that a single failure could sink them.

They might be right to feel that way.

Or just a company with limited resources. They might want to pool everyone into two or thee key titles each year.

Death Metalist · Oct 8, 2014

R.I.P half of Capcom's games.

Zoned · Oct 8, 2014

John Bender said:
2 million for a AAA game?
Yes, makes totally sense. No problem here.

But THIS is shocking!
DMC only did 1.6 million worldwide?
On PS3 and Xbox 360 combined??

Wasn't this game free on PS plus?

ThoughtsOfSpeaking · Oct 8, 2014

It pleases me to know DmC won't get a sequel, as if that wasn't obvious already.

Napalm_Frank · Oct 8, 2014

-DmC Devil May Cry: 1.6 million

C'mooon PS4+XBO rerelease, you can do dat 400k!

I know they wouldn't do DmC2

ViviOggi · Oct 8, 2014

Port DD to PC already, ez sales ez sequel

Didn't they spend a crapton of money on that game though? I wasn't aware it only sold a meager 1.3m. God Capcom's management is so clueless.

Relaxed Muscle · Oct 8, 2014

So is Devil May Cry dead too?

HabeeNo · Oct 8, 2014

Hopefully we'll get a new game with the same mechanics as Marvel

And Magneto as a guest character

John Bender · Oct 8, 2014

Zoned said:
Wasn't this game free on PS plus?

Yes, it was

PensivePen · Oct 8, 2014

Relaxed Muscle said:
So is Devil May Cry dead too?

DmC is at least. Jury is still out on the main franchise, since DMC4 sold well over 2 million.

JayEH said:
RE6 sells almost 6 million and is still a disappointment for them? Ok.

Not too surprising. It cost way more to make than RE5 and sold less.

JayEH · Oct 8, 2014

RE6 sells almost 6 million and is still a disappointment for them? Ok.

Marcel · Oct 8, 2014

John Bender said:
But THIS is shocking!
DMC only did 1.6 million worldwide?
On PS3 and Xbox 360 combined??

No it isn't. DmC not doing that well on sales has been discussed on GAF for a long time.

ViviOggi · Oct 8, 2014

Relaxed Muscle said:
So is Devil May Cry dead too?

DMC was dead for the foreseeable future anyway.

DmC can rip in pieces for all I care

BadWolf · Oct 8, 2014

ViviOggi said:
Didn't they spend a crapton of money on that game though? I wasn't aware it only sold a meager 1.3m. God Capcom's management is so clueless.

Yeah, very expensive and had a lot of their top talent on it. They wanted something like 10 million sales iirc initially.

AmuroChan · Oct 8, 2014

2 million doesn't seem too outrageous considering the budgets of AAA game development nowadays. Weren't both RE6 and Tomb Raider considered disappointment sales-wise by Capcom and S-E even though both sold way more than 2 million copies?

John Bender · Oct 8, 2014

PensivePen said:
DmC is at least. Jury is still out on the main franchise, since DMC4 sold well over 2 million.

I hope we will see Devil May Cry 5 with Dante (and not DINO -_- )

Jimmyfenix · Oct 8, 2014

Zoned said:
Wasn't this game free on PS plus?

Dmc and dd dark arisen were both on plus.

MoogleWizard · Oct 8, 2014

Nirolak said:
-Dragon's Dogma: 1.3 million

The Arisen will not rise again. =(

-Horizon- · Oct 8, 2014

Tenki said:
So Capcom will be Monster Hunter + Resident Evil + Street Fighter.

That's depressing :/

bloodyroarxx · Oct 8, 2014

Capcom fuck you

Both DmC and Dragons Dogma were amazing games that deserve sequels.

Begaria · Oct 8, 2014

Don't worry guys! You'll toooootally get Dragon's Dogma again.

As a browser based sim.

*stares hard at Breath of Fire 6*

BadWolf · Oct 8, 2014

Don't think Devil May Cry is dead, they mentioned the series as one of their essential pillars not too long ago.

Itsuno and team are probably hard at work on DMC5 (I hope).

Ein Bear · Oct 8, 2014

ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
It pleases me to know DmC won't get a sequel, as if that wasn't obvious already.

I can appreciate that the game didn't rub everyone up the right way, but it still makes me sad to see the game underperform. Character action games seem to be bombing left and right, and I worry for the future of the genre when even a well-reviewed, strongly advertised Devil May Cry game doesn't sell as well as hoped.

cnorwood · Oct 8, 2014

This makes sense, they want to make a profit, not make a few gamers happy. Like I said in the other thread its just like the Megaman series. Megaman games get pretty good scores but sale terribly. Then fans cry that Capcom killed Megaman but Megaman died a long time ago and fans seem to not be able to smell his corpse. As much as I would love a sequel to Megaman Powered up, Maverick Hunter X, and Dragons Dogma I realize that those games havent sold well and its not Capcoms Job to make me happy, its to sell games.

fedexpeon · Oct 8, 2014

Definitely need a pc port for DD. 60 fps, mmmm.

Veritigo_X · Oct 8, 2014

Dragon's Dogma hasn't sold two million?

I figured that was a good seller for Capcom. A good amount of my friends got it and I'm pretty sure they don't frequent video game forums. Plus it was marked down a bunch of times on the PS Store. Surprising to say the least.

PensivePen · Oct 8, 2014

BadWolf said:
Don't think Devil May Cry is dead, they mentioned the series as one of their essential pillars not too long ago.

Itsuno and team are probably hard at work on DMC5 (I hope).

Well, we know they aren't working on Dragon's Dogma 2 at least.

BadWolf · Oct 8, 2014

Ein Bear said:
I can appreciate that the game didn't rub everyone up the right way, but it still makes me sad to see the game underperform. Character action games seem to be bombing left and right, and I worry for the future of the genre when even a well-reviewed, strongly advertised Devil May Cry game doesn't sell as well as hoped.

The reboot's under performance is hardly a surprise.

There was a huge backlash to it from day 1.

PensivePen said:
Well, we know they aren't working on Dragon's Dogma 2 at least.

True

zeorhymer · Oct 8, 2014

I'm surprised DmC sold 1.7 million copies. It was actually a good game and pretty fun. Too bad they don't count PS+ towards copies sold.

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