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You feel sorry for the devs that one of the features they said would be in the game isn't in the game? And then they could have solved the problem easily by addressing it straight up on Twitter but didn't?
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A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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You feel sorry for the devs that one of the features they said would be in the game isn't in the game? And then they could have solved the problem easily by addressing it straight up on Twitter but didn't?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
This should be tried agaib, but with people who live in the same county and started their game on release day at the same time.
The different time of day for the planet clearly shows they aren't in the same instance (server within a server).
Even lead designers are beholden to producers, studio leads and then advertising and publishers / investors above that. all of these will have a finger in that pie and what they want public perception of the game to be. he would not have been allowed to say whether a feature has been removed from the game or not.
ridiculous isn't it.
look. I'm not trying to justify the situation, i'm just trying to provide context and an explanation to show how these situations occur.
Conkerkid11
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He really seems to struggle with literally just saying, "no, you can't play with other people. You can name planets and creatures, that's the only multiplayer aspect of the game." Did he play Journey? Journey was playing with other people. Dark Souls I can see the connection to because of the notes you can leave for other people, but the Journey connection doesn't make sense.Sean Murray said:
Though he does blatantly answer "So you are saying that if my friend travels to the same place I am at, we could play together for awhile? with a "no".
Too bad he only decided to tell the truth in a single obscure interview and still can't tell the truth on Twitter.
NJDEN
Member
Yeah, that's how I feel about it. The best thing for them is to release an official statement with a definitive yes or no answer and as to whether or not it can be expected at a later date in a patch.
Glass Shark
Banned
you can see it when someone names a planet "Dickbutt" tho
Backlogger
Member
What if the PC version has more online capabilities and they just aren't allowed to discuss because of the Sony Marketing agreement
Or in the same vein what if due to performance issues on the PS4 they had to remove some multiplayer functionally nearly last minute
Or in the same vein what if due to performance issues on the PS4 they had to remove some multiplayer functionally nearly last minute
Where did I say coop? They have been saying that it is possible to run into people and there is a game play video made by them that hints at multi.
There would be no issue if someone would clarify whether or not there is multi.
His answer is not only weird, he looks always visibly uncomfortably when answering questions about the MP. My guess: he knew there would be no real-time MP and he was pulling that stuff out of his ass.
The thing with this statement that no one is ever calling Sean out on is that the chance goes up a lot if people aren't randomly picking planets. Like say if two people are, you know, trying to find each other.
I don't care that much since I took the vagueness as meaning it wasn't in, but I also don't think leading people on about it was a good look.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Which is what they've said since the start. There is multiplayer in that players can pass like ships in the night and subtly influence the game world for others.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Fuck
MassiveNights
Banned
I would like to see more people try for sure.
My best guess at this point is that you see echoes/apparitions of other people (probably real time, like Journey) and can't interact with them.
I would love to know for sure and I would love for real players to be the ones who reveal it/discover, if it's there.
The sticker stuff is more concerning than the two guys trying IMO.
But like theoretically, if it isn't in the game, there should be no reason why people shouldn't be mad.
Sean's claims about the streamers, dodgy-ness as of late, and constant need to say how emotionally unstable he is over this game reeks of the cycle that games like Spore and the Fable series went through.
So far there is enough stuff to raise ears.
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And if a feature isn't in the game due to constraints, there is no excuse for why he would make such a claim all the way from years ago until now.
OuterLimits
Member
Exactly. I have the game and really don't care if it's single player or not. However, I recall the interviews where he said the only way to know what you look like is by seeing another player, or how seeing another would be very rare but a bit more likely closer to the center.
Never thought it would be a true multiplayer, but always thought perhaps seeing another player was at least possible.
Glass Shark
Banned
Sounds like the dev were hoping no one ever met each other. Murphy's Law strikes again.
All the people at Hello Games are incredibly smart. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't understand the math of this and plan for the eventuality
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Oi, that's no good.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
I have a feeling the PC version will be a disaster. I hope I am wrong.
Lol, this thread is amazing. Go to the 3:56 mark, where he specifically answers "No" to the question "So if my friend travels to the same place I am at, we could play together for a while?".
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
His recent tweets seem to indicate it's fully possible, just that the server overload is breaking it right now.
Now he is dancing around the questions and spouts intentional misinformation on twitter. That's just despicable and he didn't need to do that even when he wasn't allowed to talk about cut features. A big part of the blame in this case lays on him. Period.
ISee
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Conkerkid11
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Jesus... This isn't what they've said from the start.
Do we need to post the CrowbCat video every page?
Where did they say that? He just keep saying it was very unlikely that players would meet.
Got a source from before a few months ago?
Glass Shark
Banned
"seem to indicate" continues to be the biggest problem
It's crazy that we have a 60+ page thread arguing about whether this is possible or not, we should KNOW whether it is
Future PhaZe
Member
sean pls
This is what happens when being the face of your personal dream project that you have invested your life into creating yet not being able to say what you want. he wants to engage with people to see how they interact with his game but he is still gagged on certain topics. this is why he has to dance around questions.
eot
Banned
Did you read the first line of that?
That's actually from this thread.
If this isn't officially answered by today, then something shady as hell is going on.
People don't like feeling misled, and I think you don't understand how much people like multiplayer.
GAF->Internet->GAF
The point is: he went the extra mile and was actively deceitful with his tweets (and interviews). This is different than not being allowed to speak about certain topics.
This is exactly what they (HG) hoped to achieve with their strategy of non-answers and being obtuse. The big media outlets fall for it and tell their hordes of viewers "there is still a chance..."!
Murray did say time and time again that Multiplayer is not what this game is about.
Pop
Member
I thought the notorious GAF forum knew things change in development stages. People will just ignore the video though. It's already happening.
texhnolyze
Banned
If it's true and they have nothing to fear, why should they cover that PEGI sticker? What's the purpose of that?
Mad Season
Banned
Thought the same
shawnoftheshred
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http://youtu.be/ZqeN6hj4dZU
In the Colbert interview (skip to 5:40), arguably the most high profile interview this game has ever gotten, which happened about 10 months ago (not years and years ago), Sean clearly and directly addresses both:
1-being able to see other players (yes);
2-can you run into other players in the game (yes);
This is huge marketing/awe-inspiring carrot to dangle in front of a huge audience, many of whom won't follow a game's developer's twitter account in the lead-up of a release.
If it turns out it's not true, that's a bad look for sure. Those that are saying you shouldn't buy a game based on an unlikely scenario are missing the point that many were buying into this game based on awe-inspiring possibilities and discovery. That's a big one that'd keep players LOOKING.
If it turns out it IS true and possible, it's an amazingly cool thing that two people found each other day 1 against such incredible odds. Shame if tech problems are the reason a rare meeting wasn't actually had.
But yeah, the silence on answering a direct question is deafening and I can't help but assume Sony is keeping the tape over Sean's mouth until reviews on PS4 and PC start rolling out first.
In the Colbert interview (skip to 5:40), arguably the most high profile interview this game has ever gotten, which happened about 10 months ago (not years and years ago), Sean clearly and directly addresses both:
1-being able to see other players (yes);
2-can you run into other players in the game (yes);
This is huge marketing/awe-inspiring carrot to dangle in front of a huge audience, many of whom won't follow a game's developer's twitter account in the lead-up of a release.
If it turns out it's not true, that's a bad look for sure. Those that are saying you shouldn't buy a game based on an unlikely scenario are missing the point that many were buying into this game based on awe-inspiring possibilities and discovery. That's a big one that'd keep players LOOKING.
If it turns out it IS true and possible, it's an amazingly cool thing that two people found each other day 1 against such incredible odds. Shame if tech problems are the reason a rare meeting wasn't actually had.
But yeah, the silence on answering a direct question is deafening and I can't help but assume Sony is keeping the tape over Sean's mouth until reviews on PS4 and PC start rolling out first.
DryvBy
Member
As big of a fan of this game, there's a few things that are very disappointing and I was on media blackout except for E3. From the few things I read about it, people believed you could meet up.
I don't even know if the other cool thing I believed is real anymore: if I land on someone else's planet, is everything named by the first person and can I see that? If not, then that's a major bummer.
I don't even know if the other cool thing I believed is real anymore: if I land on someone else's planet, is everything named by the first person and can I see that? If not, then that's a major bummer.
SlickShoes
Member
Any updates yet or is just this mornings tweets and people recycling years old videos still?
MassiveNights
Banned
A GAFer also had the sticker on the back of his box, like the guy on Reddit yesterday. So that seems legit.
Apart from that you're up to date.
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