You all thought I wanted to water down the term "Nazi" by asking what it even means.
And just diverging from what the topic is. A nazi got punched and he deserved it. That's it. All this shit trying to classify nazi and nationalist and/or just a racist bigot is so got damn stupid. They all deserve physical harm as soon as they are bold enough to come to other people's spaces and try to harm or intimidate them etc. it's that simple.
My point was that the US hasn't answered these questions as a society.
You all thought I wanted to water down the term "Nazi" by asking what it even means.
I'm baffled that you guys genuinely seem to miss the point Gigawatts is making.
But what if this nazi was a child and wore glasses and helps out at the old folks home and someone's got a gun to his head?
My point was that the US hasn't answered these questions as a society.
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi!
I'm baffled that you guys genuinely seem to miss the point Gigawatts is making.
LMAO.But what if this nazi was a child and wore glasses and helps out at the old folks home and someone's got a gun to his head?
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I have no idea what point you are arguing anymore. The man who was punched was wearing a Nazi armband, of his own freewill, harassing people, of his own freewill, and espousing hateful rhetoric, so to say he was a Nazi is pretty much a forgone conclusion. He talked shit, he got hit.
Even just thinking about seeing someone/anyone getting beaten to death makes me physically ill.
Anyway, back to making a bobble head out of sculpy for a friends party. I'm a pussy and a dork.
What I am trying to argue is that the US isn't applying the same forceful oppositions to all forms of Nazi ideology.
Once it comes in a sheeps clothing its largely left alone.
And that a huge problem because as I said: That is actually the more dangerous version of nazism.
Just because you have a fuzzy definition of the term, a fuzzy concept of how it applies, and a weird explanation for how everyone else just must have missed it doesn't mean that's the reality everyone else actually occupies.
I can see that's how you want it to be read, but that's not actually the point you made, and the support for that point isn't really present in your post. Nevermind that you're starting with a busted premise in the first place.
You're trying to suggest that America is blind to the real Nazis, and that by "waiting" (apparently) for idiots to show up in regalia we're missing the enemy as he stands directly in our face.
That suggestion is horseshit. You're not enlightening anyone with that mess. White Supremacy has the White House and not a single member of the cabinet (save for Gorka) was rocking paraphernalia during that campaign.
America wasn't fooled by White Supremacy in different clothing. America knows what a racist looks and sounds like, what a Nazi fuckin looks like, even the undercover kind.
It's just that a lot of White America has a lot of different reasons for not giving a fuck about stopping it, and a very large amount of us are cool with promoting it.
That's not the same as not having seen it at all.
Just because you have a fuzzy definition of the term, a fuzzy concept of how it applies, and a weird explanation for how everyone else just must have missed it doesn't mean that's the reality everyone else actually occupies.
You gotta stop publicly advocating for people's deaths dude.
Even just thinking about seeing someone/anyone getting beaten to death makes me physically ill.
Anyway, back to making a bobble head out of sculpy for a friends party. I'm a pussy and a dork.
Well then fucking go ahead and have a public debate about it in the US.
I didn't ask these questions because I want answers, I asked them because the US hasn't answered them.
Because from where I am standing most of you have no idea what makes a Nazi...
Half the country thinks Hitler was left because his party had "socialism" in its name.
Nationalism isn't recognized as the toxic ideology it is.
Nazism is broken down to a few stereotypical indicators.
Nazis are universally seen as evil, yet Nazi ideology is extremely present in right wing media and Republican politics and its mostly just accepted.
Yeah, for example if he had a TV show on Fox or a column on Breitbart or Infowars.
Would someone dare to beat him up?
How would the public react?
You all misunderstood my point. Read above.
The Nazi didn't get beaten to death so not sure what you're on about.Even just thinking about seeing someone/anyone getting beaten to death makes me physically ill.
Anyway, back to making a bobble head out of sculpy for a friends party. I'm a pussy and a dork.
Thats literally the lesson Europe is currently learning with its rise of the far right.
Nazi parties have existed in Europe for decades, the stereotypical ones.
They were irrelevant, not a threat to democracy in any way.
But now Nazis reimagined themselves and appear in form of a Le Pen or Alice Weidel.
The same nazi ideology but presented in a somewhat politically correct way.
And its wildly successful and a real threat to western values as a whole.
As a hispanic man married to a jew WTF do you think these folks are advocating?
Even just thinking about seeing someone/anyone getting beaten to death makes me physically ill.
Anyway, back to making a bobble head out of sculpy for a friends party. I'm a pussy and a dork.
YouTube just leaves up a video of someone getting beaten to death?
I think I get what you are trying to say, but you should word it better, guess you are trying to say that today far-right is basically past nazis with a fresh coat of paint? But I wouldnt call the stereotypical nazis irrelevant, they still fuel hate just the same.Thats literally the lesson Europe is currently learning with its rise of the far right.
Nazi parties have existed in Europe for decades, the stereotypical ones.
They were irrelevant, not a threat to democracy in any way.
But now Nazis reimagined themselves and appear in form of a Le Pen or Alice Weidel.
The same nazi ideology but presented in a somewhat politically correct way.
And its wildly successful and a real threat to western values as a whole.
That's racistI wonder how things would be if we waited to address subvert racism.
HERE. WE. GO!
I'm saying when you flat out talk about how you'd love to see people getting shot you'll probably catch a ban because you're basically entertaining murder fantasies as opposed to discussing the topic at hand.
For as much as people are focusing on those defending the Nazi's right to not get hit in the face for being a Nazi, quite a few other posters here have gone gray because they couldn't stop gleefully entertaining Nazi murder scenarios.
if we all post "sean hannity is a nazi" does gigawatt vanish into thin air?t