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Buying a 4K TV for PS4K thread!
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Aztechnology
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I'd say it's likely the deals will fade. Burn in however it you're cognizant of your TV use. Set up proper auto off functionality. Dimming mode for unattended set etc. Or just make sure you switch h it off when you're not at the TV and there won't be an issue at all.
Basically what any TV user should be doing anyway. No need to leave a static image in the screen wasting energy and decreasing the life of your device.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I think I'm sold on the KS8000 65"
Saw it in a very bright Best Buy and the image looked really good, even the black levels seemed pretty solid.
Would really like to get this for TLG/FF15/Horizon, so I may decide to grab it over Black Friday....would prefer to not pay $1500, and really wish I could have gotten in on that EPP deal or whatever, but I can afford it if it comes down to it...
Image retention is more guaranteed than image burn which is rare to non existent. It is an issue with the display technology itself. OLED are ridiculously vivid and bright with a pitch black picture. As long as you take care of the television don't leave some static image with bright HUD on the screen without a change for houes you should be good. Waiting next year will probably get you better prices, however it really depends on what LG does. They are pretty much the only player in the OLED space right now.
I'm googling again to find the input lag on my current TV but am struggling.
Can anyone help me find the input lag on westinghouse cw46t9fw? I'm hoping it's like 80 hours.
I don't think anyone ever listed it because no one cares about this shit tv
falconxcrunner09
Member
Can anyone comment on how good/bad this Sony is? Is the input lag actually noticeable? How is the 4K and HDR for PS4 pro?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/XBR55X700D/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I am seeing a lot of conflicting reviews about it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/XBR55X700D/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I am seeing a lot of conflicting reviews about it.
DreadfulOmen
Member
That would be the only downside of the KS8000, but it seems pretty clear the HDR10 is winning this format war, with no Dolby Vision bluray players even available and Dolby vision only available on a few TVs (Vizio P series and LG OLEDs basically). Vudu and Amazon are the only streaming services that even offer Dolby vision afaik.
Aztechnology
Member
you're not getting any kind of special deal here and it's not really an HDR tv. It's not very bright and it doesn't support wide color gamut. it's also IPS which is a nono on a TV for me personally as it has very sub par contrast.
IMO if you were considering the bundle you're better off going for the deal on the Pro from Amazon or Target going on right now and buying a larger model Samsung KU6300 or 6290 (Same TV 6290 is just cheaper, doesn't have Bluetooth or a smart remote) and deals vary so it's dependent on the deals.
The Samsung is also HDR10, but keep in mind it's not true HDR either. It just supports the metadata and displays it in a non HDR space essentially. It's more technical than that, but it's the gist of what's going on with the sets that are HDR10 compliant but without the features to truly support the standard.
falconxcrunner09
Member
The Samsung looks good but if it doesn't have true HDR, I won't bother. So if I wanted to get true HDR, what should I be going for? Price range is about $600-800 and looking for 55".
Aztechnology
Member
The standard for Dolly Vision is also kind of bullshit as of right now.
12 bit color
The best TV's are 10 Afaik so it would be 10 on something like the B6 with dithering to 12.
4000 but targeted brightness
Rec 2020 space target. The KS8000 and even the LGB6, C6 only cover around 70% of that color space.
Its just too lofty of a standard currently. The main thing holding it back honestly though is HDMI bandwidth limitation. I wish so badly we would just transition to Display Port. It's so far superior to HDMI.
Aztechnology
Member
The Employee Pricing Program was your only shot at that happening Afaik. The 55" KS8000 was $729.
I really have no idea as to the status of that deal now though, I believe it's dead and buried.
If you want true HDR10 you're going to be spending a $999+ now.
How do you know if a TV fully supports the standard. Is there a certification?
falconxcrunner09
Member
Damn that sucks. In case an online retailer pops up with something great, can you recommend anything I can look out for?
I know that KS8000 is highly recommended around here but any others?
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I'm replacing a 10 year old 1080p set (Samsung DLP - 68" or so).
Do you think the new Samsung KS8000 will be a great TV to last me for the coming 4K generations (PS4 Pro, Scorpio, PS5, etc...)?
$1500 is a lot to drop on a TV, but if it will last me that long perhaps it's worth it.
Now just trying to figure out if I should keep it at around 65", or "downgrade" to 55" for a little less money...My room is such that I'm situated anywhere from 8-10 feet from my TV, but in theory could move closer
Aztechnology
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I wish. They're more like goalposts currently. It's definitely the wild west for HDR right now. I think HDR10 is definitely going to win the first bout but who knows when they'll have a legitimate certification. As of right now it just tells you if it will receive HDR10 metadata essentially.
The LG OLED B6, C6 but those are too expensive.
The Sony X800D but I don't think that's any cheaper and is generally considered to be a step down comparative to the KS8000.
The best budget 4k set I can recommend right now is the KU6290. Either that or you wait for deals to pop up again.
Honestly I'd consider grabbing the 40" KU6290 for $300 as a stopgap. I know it isn't ideal. But it's cheap and would easily be sellable to upgrade when you're ready.
Considering what you're coming from (I'd imagine it had fairly substantial input lag?) I wish I could recommend the OLED to you at 65" but it's like twice the cost so that's not an easy choice. I'd say yes its a great TV. But depending on your usage, you might consider looking for a deal on an OLED.
mingoguaya
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So I just found out while getting ready to get my desired Samsung on the target.com BF online special that they dont ship TV's to Puerto Rico, so Im stuck with whatever local TV sets I can find. Walmart will have the Samsung 50in 4kTV for $438 but only 12 available so its either braving the crowds and losing most of my Thanksgiving waiting in line or getting the TV online via target.com, having it shipped to a relative in mainland US and have them ship it to me via FedEx..... but I fear what might happen on two shipping trips on a TV. Im so screwed. :/
Clockwork
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
The cost of the OLED is the sticking point. It twice the cost I'd rather upgrade now for 5 years and then pay the same cost today for another replacement TV in five years.
And seeing the OLEDs in best buy, they were nice but they weren't as vibrant to me as the Samsung.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Wut? How do I get the 65" for $999 or whatever?
falconxcrunner09
Member
O_O How do you take advantage of this deal?
You have to be a part of the employee purchase program. It was possible to get invited but not anymore
Only if you got in. Otherwise Perksatwork and EPP is disabled for new buyers. You need to ACTUALLY have perks at work through your job or have been invited and create an account in that small window of time to see this.
You're comparing them in a massively high ambient lighting situation. The OLED is plenty vibrant in a normal setting.
Aztechnology
Member
I'm with you 100% there. The point of diminishing returns on a OLED is too high. Only reason I even upgraded now was because of the stellar EPP deals. $729 was too good to pass up.
falconxcrunner09
Member
Shit, welp got my hopes up for nothing, I think I am going with this one then based on Aztechnology's recommendation.
http://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/4k-uhd-tvs/55-class-ku6290-6-series-4k-uhd-tv-2016-model-un55ku6290fxza/
The refresh rate is 60hz so can it play games in 60 FPS right? Sorry if that was a dumb question, I don't really know a lot about TV specs.Would it be jarring to go from a 240hz TV to a 60hz?
http://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/4k-uhd-tvs/55-class-ku6290-6-series-4k-uhd-tv-2016-model-un55ku6290fxza/
The refresh rate is 60hz so can it play games in 60 FPS right? Sorry if that was a dumb question, I don't really know a lot about TV specs.Would it be jarring to go from a 240hz TV to a 60hz?
Aztechnology
Member
It looks like they removed me from PAW. I am still under the thing, can get deals from other sites, but if I try to go to the Samsung store it says
DreadfulOmen
Member
Any tv you buy now will have much better picture quality than your dlp. At the same time, i think it would be hard to go from a 68" screen down to 55". Just save up some more, don't feel like you have to upgrade right now. These tvs arent going anywhere.
DreadfulOmen
Member
True. The ambient lights in BB are most likely brighter than in someone's home. I watched revenant on an oled and it's plenty bright.
What is your price max? And yes, your game frame rate is console dependent on the game and separate from your tv refresh rate. At 4K, refresh rate is a non factor due to the sheer amount of pixels and visual fidelity. Will see little to no blur. You might notice more blur at 1080p if you are coming from a 240hz native refresh especially for motion or sports, but did you like motion interpolation aka soap opera effect?
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I guess I'm just trying to wait on getting the best bang for my buck for a big investment.
I have the money to splurge on a $1500 65" TV, I'm just trying to decide if NOW is the right time.
On the one hand, I really want to take advantage of the new PS4 Pro, especially when Horizon comes out, but at the same time I don't want to put down money on something that's going to be massively outdated in short order...
Yes. There's a UHD Premium certification that includes wide color gamut and HDR, but not all manufacturers bother with the various certification processes.
DreadfulOmen
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DreadfulOmen
Member
I feel like if your dlp has served you well for this long, you'll be happy with the ks8000. Horizon comes out in february, right? the prices for tvs might go down a little bit more. It's a big decision for sure, especially when it comes to electronics.
texhnolyze
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I'm in the market for a 4K TV.
How are 43" LG 43UF770T and 43UF640? I found a good deal from my local online storefront for them.
How are 43" LG 43UF770T and 43UF640? I found a good deal from my local online storefront for them.
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Deleted member 17706
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After going to Best Buy and comparing all of the sets they had on display, I went with the 55" LG B6. I just couldn't go for an LCD set after seeing the OLED in person in a side-by-side comparison. I considered the 65" model, but honestly I felt like the 55" looked better standing at around a 2 meter distance (duh, pixel density and all that). I probably sit around 3.5 meters from my set in my living room and looks fantastic.
falconxcrunner09
Member
$600 -$800 ish. That KS800 would be perfect if I could do the Samsung discount
Honestly 90% of the time would be for gaming and 10% for Blu rays. I don't watch sports and if I would want to watch live TV, I would use a different TV.
No, I don't like the soap opera effect. Looks awful.
TVs are just as cheap in February due to the Super Bowl. So waiting wouldn't be the end of the world.
How does the lag feel?
It looks like they removed me from PAW. I am still under the thing, can get deals from other sites, but if I try to go to the Samsung store it says
Aw dangit - there goes my plan to buy my OLED off that site in a few years, haha
According to my coupon book, they have the KS8000. 55'' for 979, and 65'' for 1479
Aztechnology
Member
You get removed as well?
meanspartan
Member
Just got back from target.
They had a samsung 49 inch for $477 on sale. It says "hdr premium"
Lg for $400, also 49 inch, "hdr pro"
Pricing seems too good to be true...these not true hdr maybe?
They had a samsung 49 inch for $477 on sale. It says "hdr premium"
Lg for $400, also 49 inch, "hdr pro"
Pricing seems too good to be true...these not true hdr maybe?
FallingEdge
Member
Posted this in the wrong thread but I think I will go all in on the LG C6. Go big or go home.
Not only is it still going on the the 65 inch is down to $1079. That $200 less then I paid and Ive only had the set a week.
FallingEdge
Member
Did you ask for the price match yet? They've already refunded my $200. Wouldn't budge on the tax no matter how much I asked. But still cannot complain for $1205ish with tax for a 65" 4K with full HDR10 set.