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Cowen downgrades EA's stock as it thinks Titanfall 2's sales will be disappointing
- Thread starter razgriz417
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Katana_Strikes
Member
After those UK sales I think they'd need to downgrade them some more for I don't think disappointing would cover the massive fall.
Valkerionseven
Member
Hopefully it sells well, its getting good reviews and has even got me interested in purchasing it as my next game with all the attention its gotten.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, hopefully it has legs, but damn. It might do better in the US, but doesn't seem like a game which will necessarily have a lot of appeal outside of typical shooter-centric regions (UK, North America, some European countries, maybe Australia?).
infinityBCRT
Member
I think Game publishers need to start getting into the habit of finishing a game, and then holding to release it until the time is right. Currently release date is purely a function of finish date, which is problematic-- both in terms of releasing a game before its done, and releasing a game when its a bad time in the market.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I said it once andI will say it again, why do companies keep releases high profile games at the same time as other high profile games? Not to mention that the competition games are very similar to yours. It just doesn't make sense.
Diablohead
Member
Goes to show how important the release date is, will make or break any game.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Just
Why
Why would they send this shit to die like this
Why
Why would they send this shit to die like this
CosmicQueso
Member
Why is everyone pointing just to the release date?
Seems to me the beta had as much to do with the sales performance as anything else.
Seems to me the beta had as much to do with the sales performance as anything else.
TheCanisDirus
Member
This is sad. And very evident when playing online and looking at the population numbers. :/ Game is great it's just a shame.
Exactly where I'm sitting. I don't think the release date hurt it that much. Sure it hurt it a little, but BF and Titanfall are completely different games and I think people forget both games are EA, they know exactly who plays what and where the overlap lies and how big it is.
The biggest problems is the tech test and that it didn't have Microsoft's marketing machine behind it like TF1.
It only got 700 ratings in PSN as of now. Thats pretty bad. Most new AAA games would get like a couple of thousand ratings in the first days, or even before release as now pre-orders can rate too.
On the other Hand I just checked Battlefield One and it "only" got 2300 ratings. But of course they are a stronger franchise on PS4 as they exist longer. So it might not be THAT bad, or sales just are down a bit generally as people wait for new Hardware or just bought VR.
Me personally I would have loved to try a Titanfall 2 Beta I guess I missed it, because I never played the franchise but always was interested in it. Tho I would also really like Bots and a Survival Mode as Modern Warfare games used to have, that would motivate me a lot more to check it out. Besides from that I guess COD did succeed in "stealing" their MP audience quite good by just "copying" some of their gameplay?
On the other Hand I just checked Battlefield One and it "only" got 2300 ratings. But of course they are a stronger franchise on PS4 as they exist longer. So it might not be THAT bad, or sales just are down a bit generally as people wait for new Hardware or just bought VR.
Me personally I would have loved to try a Titanfall 2 Beta I guess I missed it, because I never played the franchise but always was interested in it. Tho I would also really like Bots and a Survival Mode as Modern Warfare games used to have, that would motivate me a lot more to check it out. Besides from that I guess COD did succeed in "stealing" their MP audience quite good by just "copying" some of their gameplay?
I'd say the lack of beta on PC (something they did last time), no server browser (which was a huge complaint from PC players), and the first game dying out within a week of launch sealed it's fate more than anything.
Console sales seem affected by the last one more than the first two, but it's no surprise hardly anyone is buying the PC port. Why spend $60 when the company has no confidence in the sequel to show they fixed the issues people complained about?
CosmicQueso
Member
Right... there are a list of things that resulted in the performance.
TF2 with a fantastic beta, more highly reviewed, with a bigger spend, and the other issues mentioned would sell very well despite the release date.
Pointing only to release date makes it sound like there's nothing that could have been done to make the game sell well.
Instead, there are many decisions that were made that combined to get the game where it is.
TF2 with a fantastic beta, more highly reviewed, with a bigger spend, and the other issues mentioned would sell very well despite the release date.
Pointing only to release date makes it sound like there's nothing that could have been done to make the game sell well.
Instead, there are many decisions that were made that combined to get the game where it is.
They've had ads on TV, but that's about it. Even if they did a marketing push PC won't bite when there is no server browser. I remember the last time I tried the first one I got nothing but lag slide-show matches despite being a US cloud (ugh) server. Why buy the second if the first one performs like that?
AuthenticM
Member
I can confirm that were it not for having bought Battlefield 1 last week, I would have bought Titanfall 2. In fact, I regret having chosen Battlefield over it.
I will buy the game early next year though, believe me. I need to play that game.
I will buy the game early next year though, believe me. I need to play that game.
John Wick
Member
Lmfao! And people say Sony have no games during the Holiday season. There is a damn good reason why Sony spread their titles around the year. Game looks fantastic and I hope it sells well enough for more titles.
What was so bad about the release date? Haven't followed the game so have no clue.
tearsintherain
Member
A week after Battlefield 1 and a week before COD:Infinite Warfare. Same day as Skyrim remaster.
Just a lot of popular games to try and compete with.
Its too bad Respawn/EA didn't treat this more like Overwatch. Give it a 4-5 month, long ass MP beta and invite streamers and more and more users. Tune that shit so its perfect. Overwatch had a beta that lasted like A YEAR and it still sold 10m+ copies at launch. Good betas don't hurt sales. Betas that are short, get received poorly, and skip the PC completely can hurt your launch. Although then again Infinite Warfare will be the one that probably proves me wrong.
razgriz417
Member
Came out a week after BF1 (another EA published game) and next week is COD. Also day and date with Skyrim.
Why blame EA and not shitty gamers for constantly funding the CoD Yearly Same Ol' Same Ol' train? Even BF1, it's basically the same game just with a different skin on it (And still not as amazing as BC2 ^_^).
I personally cannot stop playing TF2. BF1 is barely getting any play time, Overwatch is dead, Gears of War 4 gathering a fine layer of dust for MP. It's just the better game right now. And no one is going to buy it. Gamers. What are they good for?
I personally cannot stop playing TF2. BF1 is barely getting any play time, Overwatch is dead, Gears of War 4 gathering a fine layer of dust for MP. It's just the better game right now. And no one is going to buy it. Gamers. What are they good for?
N° 2048
Member
Holy, post of the fucking day.
I really hope you meant, for you and not in general because Overwatch, BF1 and Gears 4 are some of the most active MP games right now.
Obviously for me. I'm not stating for anyone else. Sorry it read any other way. My play time for newly released games is all about TF2 now.
(EDIT: Even Dark Souls III DLC I bought but haven't touched. This is just crazy talk now!)
tearsintherain
Member
I play COD with some friends and its just easier all agreeing on a single game than suggesting new games and some people don't want to switch etc etc. At this point the COD franchise is established and thinking you are hot shit who is going to take it down is dumb as hell, not much different than Battleborn when it thought it would be fine competing with Overwatch.
BF1 vs T2 is totally personal preference, I much prefer BF1 and its pretty ludicrous to say its just a reskin of BF4 or something. Its wildly different and as of right now there are currently 331k players in it, peak in the last 24 hours was 714k. That is 10 days after launch.
Titanfall 2 is currently at 8k players online on PC, not sure how much peak is across all platforms but I can't imagine its higher than 50k. 3 days after launch.
Dash_Riprock
Member
For comparison, what was TF1's MP numbers at this same point after launch? I know its not exactly fair given the competition and release dates but its better than nothing.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Hopefully its a slow burner and sales eventually pick up because it really is a great game and a big improvement over the first one, which I really didn't like all that much.
I've been playing it most of the afternoon and the campaign is superb.
I've been playing it most of the afternoon and the campaign is superb.
Player counters weren't added until well into it's life cycle. When it was added (late 2014) it was around 15-20k on XB1.
Right this minute there are 29K on XB1 on TF2. Yesterday there was about 40K online at this time.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
As long as positive word of mouth continues I have no concerns about the longevity of the MP community, especially when you take into account all maps/modes will be free in the future. If all of the people who were on the fence about that concern specifically actually purchased the game this would be a total non-issue.
I chose this over BF1 because I'm not down for varying fps drops from sub 30 in some instances up to 60. That kind of judder is unplayable imo and it doesn't hold a solid 60 in any sort of hectic firefight -- where it matters most.
SliceSabre
Banned
That's sad to hear but releasing this so close to BF1 and Cod: IW made it a nonstarter for me. In the toss up between this and BF1 I chose BF1 because Titanfall 2 simply cannot compare when it comes to destructibles environments, large MP, vehicles and the feel of battle.
I'll probably get CoD: IW before I get Titanfall 2 as well.
I'll probably get CoD: IW before I get Titanfall 2 as well.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
I wish it wasn't so, but you can't just come out and command the people's attention, no matter how good you are. The people have to choose you.
Dont know why they bothered with a pc version if the plan was to ignore the complaints. Just contractual obligation like cod? Who knows.
joecanada
Member
I got tf and no longer need bf1 for a while. And that's a big statement coming from me. Cod? I don't even remember what that is aside from poor servers.
Tf is Fps of the gen for me so far