Aren't there reports of greater foliage and draw distance when docked? It looks like they opted to go for some improved visuals due to the larger screen over higher resolution. Which seems short sighted.
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Digital Foundry: Let's Play Zelda: Breath of the Wild on Nintendo Switch
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Aren't there reports of greater foliage and draw distance when docked? It looks like they opted to go for some improved visuals due to the larger screen over higher resolution. Which seems short sighted.
Admiral Woofington
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they said that in the whole demo it happened very rarely though.
https://youtu.be/6ktFlmH_0CI?t=14m35s
Glad to hear that it's 1080p. Be nice to Nintendo, everyone! Thanks.
lol
Astral Dog
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Yeah but the Switch is supposed to be top of the line Maxwell tech Nvidia 500 Man Years 4GB RAM 4X Fan on Dock,etc. If it can't handle a Wii U @900p what does that tell us?
Remember the early leaks calling 900p graphics at 60 fps on Switch?
Im sure handheld mode will look lovely however
Jonneh3003
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it was only in that gameplay reveal at the game awards a few years back that the Wii U version had second screen support.
Finale Fireworker
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Well, does Link Between Worlds count? They made a big deal about targeting and achieving 60fps in that game. But that's a 3D Zelda the way Super Mario 3D World is a 3D Mario.
That said, it was plainly obvious this game would never be 60fps.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Oh yeah that was the one. Im finally catching up on stuff today. Finally off
It's coming out in summer. who knows what will change until then.
I read the Wii U version is 720p.
Conkerkid11
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Holy shit, what? Are you serious? Have they made this information widely available? Because this is the first time I'm hearing about it.
Haven't heard anything since they showed off gamepad support back in 2014, and just assumed it was still in.
Fucking Nintendo.
Hold up, why the hell is Splatoon 2 running at 720p docked!? This is clearly some major unoptimization/fuckery going on here.
Yep, it pretty much just off-TV and maybe gyro stuff. Last year, Eiji Aonuma talked about not really being a fan of using both screens.
Always-honest
Banned
The shimmering is insane in these Switch games. I wish Nintendo would take stuff like that (aa) more seriously. Their own tv screens in stores are indeed always horrible. Waaaaayyy too much sharpening making the jaggies even more noticeable.
Anyway, gameplay and world look amazing.
Anyway, gameplay and world look amazing.
Diablohead
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Watching the video they say that the drops mostly happen when there's depth of field from combat on the screen, or large transparent effects.
Watching the footage its smooth 30 every other moment of the gameplay.
Watching the footage its smooth 30 every other moment of the gameplay.
Devs *can* choose to use the handheld clocks in docked mode.
Was confirmed at the last e3.
Chezzymann
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If the Wii U version doesn't have too bad of framedrops I'm comfortable going with that and holding off on the switch for a while
DarknessTear
Banned
Well I trust the guys at DF more than I do Gamespot or IGN so I guess the switch version might be a buy...
I see, but what dev in their right mind would chose base clocks over higher clocks? Why would you NOT use the full potential of the actual hardware? Just seems very very strange to me.
KainXVIII
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"slight drop when DOF is present" they should remove the dof.
8 fps from 30 is not a "slight" drop
Bitch Pudding
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When I'll finally get my hands on Zelda I'll be playing this 95% in handheld mode. For a handheld game it looks awesome. For a 2017 home console game, not so much (tech-wise, art style is stil amazing).
Admiral Woofington
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well, wait for the Wii U demo before you drop $300 on a console. Maybe the Wii U version has been fairly optimized since the demos.
Maybe they already are and just scale visuals docked?
Some of the leaked unreal engine profiles showed that other settings are also compromised when going undocked.
I suspect that the smaller screen size and lower resolution help mask that and it's difficult to really see the thst the other settings are being sacrificed.
In other words, when docked you are actually getting more than JUST the resolution boost, even if it is hard to tell.
That said, this thing is pretty impressive when you consider the size and that it's portable.
Jonneh3003
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It goes back to 30 pretty quickly.
maybe the game is still in development and the docked mode was not stable enough for such an event?
or there is another reason and we will only get 720p. who knows. splatoon 2 is months away.
And 720p docked is the best they currently have for Splatoon 2? Disappointing as fuck if true.
Yea, this would make the most sense to me since the game still got time for optimization.
Naked Snake
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This. Easily the best art direction in a Zelda game I think.
The sky, colors, lighting and lense flare effects are really gorgeous.
Wishmaster92
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what? no that can't be right. 720p is the same res as the wii u. Crazy if true
OrbitalBeard
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That....is not how it works. lol
It's still using the same hardware with the same drawbacks.
Zelda is a "huge open world" and as such the performance compromise comes in the form of 30 frames per second instead of 60FPS of Mario Kart 8. Both Zelda and Mario Kart are 720P on WiiU, yet one ended up 1080P on Switch while the other ended up 900P, which is why it is a curious case because both WiiU and Switch are fixed hardware...and as such the answer to this isn't "because it's a huge open world" but rather something that can only be figured out once we look more into it.
N° 2048
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Wait, demo? When?
I share the same opinion in that. The treehouse footage looked very choppy at e3, but it looks very stable and natural now.
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Being the same in docked and portable does not make sense to me. I'm going to assume this will change by the time the game releases in the summer. If it doesn't, I really hope someone asks the dev team about it and figures out why they chose to do that.
The dips also seem so fast in the footage I don't think they'll be that noticeable as you're playing. Now the dips on the Wii U version are very likely to be noticeable though.
I am curious of the direction they go for in the future. Target the docked mode and then tone down for the hand held mode. Or target the hand held mode and then upgrade for the docked mode. Or will it be game by game basis. That this started as Wii U game I think they might have just targeted the hand held mode from how it sounds.
The game looks beautiful regardless in both modes though. Even with the issues the Wii U has it still looks amazing and likely will be worth playing if you don't pick up the Switch at launch but also have a Wii U.
Milly Osworth
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Richard sounds very negative, but I kinda agree. Zelda looks great, but imagine it on better specs.