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Digital Foundry: The Witcher 3 patch 1.10 gives PS4 the boost it's been waiting for
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ninjablade
Banned
Graphics have been downgraded, but no one is willing to talk about it.
Version 1.08
Version 1.10
Lol some idiots will actually fall for this.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Damn, you're sharp. Nothing gets past you.
thelastword
Banned
You're pretending I'm some type of bastion for the newly patched PS4 version. Just like things are broken on the XB1, I'm sure there are things broken on the PS4 as well, it's the nature of releasing your product in a shoddy state and trying to fix it months after.
As I've said in a prior post, the only difference I saw different was the little extra foam and ripples on the PS4 version on the water, that was always on the XB1 version and 6 months later it's on the ps4 version, yet it's just a property of the low preset for water. I can see the slight improvement to texture load-in and a reduction in pop-in, but I can't give them any praise for that since an A10 APU with an onboard GPU loaded assets much much better in this game. It's the same for the framerate, some people are saying it's massive, but it's simply a case of them getting rid of their random 20fps framelock. It's not like the game is performing at 30fps solid, and it still does not have the assets of entry level or medium pc rigs for that matter, which it shoudl.
As I've said, I wish there was a more thorough analysis of this patch to highlight what was changed, what was upgraded, what was downgraded, it's not always easy to pick up such differences via youtube videos.
In any case, I hope XB1 performance is restored to where it was, but it's such a see-saw affair from CD Project as it is.
I imagine, there's still a lot of patching to come. Apparently this is CDPR's modus operandii, their GOTY editions of W1 and W2 was the actual finished product. I can only assume that there will be more patches going forward till their W3 GOTY.
That's usually what I see in these threads, I'm not even sure why the PC guys are trying to declare that's all the consoles can do. I realize some of them do that for every supbar port on the PS4. Strider can't do af, Unity is GPU bound on PS4, Farcry 4 is....Gta5 is....It's really disingenuous.
At least PC guys got a good port, but yet, here they are, even a dev recommended that you play the pc version, it's good. I've always maintained that the PC version is excellent, but the consoles got the short end of the stick, especially PS4. Lower end GPU's/systems just did too much over the consoles and had much better presets. They excelled and still do, perhaps in everything but performance depending on the GPU. Can you imagine if I went into a batman Ak thread on release day and said that's all PC could do.........just accept the PC port for what it is......and drop something like, "it's probably cpu bound or vram bound for textures assets or whatever else"...."rain effects are probably too tasking etc..."?
Tbh, I'm still not impressed with what CDPR have done with this patch, there's a lot that needs to improve still, ALOT more.
I don't know about the bog but pool in the cave with the torchlight are horribly low buffer on ps4. I don't know if they were like this before but it's terrible to see. Really blurred and compressed.
Thank you. Your sarcastic comments are well received. Hope you feel like the awesome dude you are, implying/presenting other members in the community as idiots.
Very nice.
Dictator93
Member
Hrm, got a picture? On PC they do something kinda interesting there that I did not think screamed low res.
Also, there are some caves where fog is in them... those would be best to see if they reduced alpha resolution in addition to the amount of it.
Well I'm quite ignorant about the correct tech term but it's really noticeable just when I use the torch, not so much otherwise. When the light reflect in the water, reflection disappear and the ground appear terrible blurred and undefined with some horrible artifacts but not pixelated at all. That's annoying to see. I try to put some shot when I'm back to home.
By the way I'm not sure if it happens for this patch. Probably it was present before too because cave runs quite good.
Is it possible to have picture? I need this with a pool reflected with a torchlight how works in the cave on PC. Out my curiosity.
Filthy Casual
Member
Just in time for hearts of stone, nice.
Kinda crazy that they don't really have to, and they still are. It was perfectly playable for most people at launch, and mostly everything they have done was to please fans. What a remarkable developer.
It wasn't super buggy, I suppose, but it ran worse than Assassin's Creed Unity when it launched (and I feel it looks much worse too, though they're doing very very different things). These days, the majority of open world games on consoles are launching with a very stable 30fps (sometimes even 60). ACU and Witcher 3 were two of the only exceptions to that.
They launched a game with a lot of technical problems and are fixing it. Just like Ubi and the like. I don't get the praise they receive.
Ubi was lynched for ACU but I don't feel W3 launched in a much better state on consoles.
I didn't play AC:U so I can't comment, but although W3 wasn't perfect, I found it fine (as did many people with AC:U). Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they have continued to improve the game, but many of the things they've improved were not really urgent, and they did it because of player feedback.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
20fps was not acceptable and it wasn't done out of the kindness of their hearts. No surprise it gets fixed as they try sell DLC.
Well maybe the fact that one is a masterpiece made the difference. Anyway didn't acu run at 900 or something on both consoles?
Well, we have witness many recent releases of unpolished games, where the release state of the game impacted the value of the franchise. Unity and CoD:Ghosts are good examples. They certainly do not fix their game just out of the goodness of their heart. They do it to prevent consumers, who paid $60/70€ or more for their product, from shying away from buying DLC or preordering The Witcher 4.
It's cool if the game is fine for you and others. But a sizable number of players expect more than sustained 20fps gameplay.
Oh, the PS2 version is finally here! Gotta get one for dirt cheap to play this game at its bestGraphics have been downgraded, but no one is willing to talk about it.
Version 1.08
Version 1.10
LOL, if someone falls for this, "idiot" would be far too kind a term.
This guy gets it.There's no way it took them 9 patches just to coincidentally and miraculously end up with this significant performance improvement just in time to release their dlc.
Well, quality is subjective. I'm not a big fan of W3 myself. Just talking about technical quality at release.
Outside of the bog area and night time in Novigrad, vanilla Witcher 3 ran much better and more consistently at 30fps than ACU, most notably PS4 comparisons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clQfCP3NFuc
vs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkB8gpPzMkw&t=1m16s
ACU basically had bog area equivalents throughout the whole game, and still does.
The "20fps" was only during cutscenes as far as I'm aware. During combat it could dip that low but if fluctuated. Not saying it's acceptable- just that the areas where it would happen represented such a small part of the game, I didn't mind it that much. I'm happy they improved the game, and some fixes were needed to get the game to a playable state for a lot of people, but so many of their improvements were just icing on the cake, and that's what I was trying to highlight.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
Already played on PC but been wanting it on PS4 so I guess it's time.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
ACU's gameplay also requires lower latency than The Witcher 3, which is pretty slow paced, so the performance problems are far more noticeable. Witcher 3 may have dropped frames heavily in places at launch but never to what I'd consider unplayable for its gameplay.
ACU and Dragon's Dogma are the only games that I wanted to play more of but simply couldn't because of the performance. And neither were ever fixed.
Witcher 3 stutters and skips like mad on PS4 (at launch). It was never smooth. ACU actually looks more consistent and fluid overall on PS4 in comparison. You have dips in many areas but it doesn't feel as jittery as The Witcher 3. The fact that it animates much better than W3 helps as well.
Dictator93
Member
So this what I talked about
Is it low buffer water or what else?
I took some images of the water in caves, it seems to run a dof like effect on the water volume. You can see it has masking problems when geralt stands next to it.
I think it is trying to emulate the look of salt water pools you see in caves.
Also, going back to the swamps and my performance there... I am pretty sure any adjustments to the fog did not effect PC. Still has a shit ton:
I just picked up the game after hearing about the positive improvements with the latest patch.
The game runs very nicely but then sometimes an area that was totally smooth will just start to run like crap. No matter where I go after this performance drop starts the issue persists until I restart the game.
Anyone experienced this?
The game runs very nicely but then sometimes an area that was totally smooth will just start to run like crap. No matter where I go after this performance drop starts the issue persists until I restart the game.
Anyone experienced this?
Summer Haze
Banned
Yup, I'm having the exact same issue. As are a few others here and on the CDPR forums. For me what fixes it is to save the game and then load that same save back up. It only lasts for around 10-15 minutes before it reappears, though.
The support team told me they'e aware of it and that they'e investigating a fix but I won't hold my breath for it to be fixed any time soon. I can wait, though, now that I've had a taste and loved it.
Yup, I'm having the exact same issue. As are a few others here and on the CDPR forums. For me what fixes it is to save the game and then load that same save back up. It only lasts for around 10-15 minutes before it reappears, though.
The support team told me they'e aware of it and that they'e investigating a fix but I won't hold my breath for it to be fixed any time soon. I can wait, though, now that I've had a taste and loved it.
Thanks, yeah I really loved what I played of it, but this is game breaking for me.
scorcher59
Member
Jesus this game's been out for what 2 months now and still patching up for performance? this gen man...
Hey Dark, what HDDs does DF test on? I genuinely think that harddrives have some effect on performance in this game. I've seen plenty of footage of this game getting real bad but outside of a few hiccups, it didn't really drop below mid 20s for me, even in a thunderstorm in the bog (which I have posted footage of before). Still rough but not like the usual bog footage. I have a SSHD.
I'm usually pretty sensitive to drops below 30 and would have been pissed if I had seen it hitting sustained 20 like in some of the footage I've seen but it never happened and some of my friends who also use SSHDs had a similar experience to myself. I also never had streaming issues in Novigrad, something I also would immediately notice. Curious if you or someone could look into it. I genuinely want to solve why performance felt more solid for me than others since I am somebody who would be very vocal if I had those massive sustained drops. Harddrives don't seem like something that would lead to a framerate difference but it's the only thing that's different about my console.
shinobi602
Member
Never felt that way at all, not even close and I've been playing it since it released. Admittedly it dropped heavily around the swamps especially while raining, but the vast majority of the game doesn't take place in the swamps. Dipping a few frames in other places never bothered me.
Careful, sounds dangerous.
CambriaRising
Member
At least they are still working on it instead of just abandoning it.
Even Digital Foundry doesn't feel like milking this title anymore.
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
How is that bad? Please cast your eyes back to the first few years of the PS3's life, when many UE3 games would run like dogshit and never get patched. CD RED is doing work they are in no way obligated to do, because 99% of customers are no doubt fine with where the game was.