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[GrizzleBoy]

They are a terrorist organization.

More like a hired gang in uniform.

 

[Princess Carl]

More like a hired gang in uniform.

No better protection than laws that you can change and enforce at will, depending on your mood/level of hate on that day.

 

[aquavelva]

If being included into society isn't the goal, then what is? Would you have the black population declare independence from the rest of the US?

Why would anyone want to be included with their enemy? I view white supremacy the same way the US government view the war on terror. For black people it's a matter of national security and this country has made it abundantly clear that we will never be treated as equals.

 

[Lime]

Ferguson's judge, prosecutor, and others haven't read the DoJ report

Ferguson Judge Ronald Brockmeyer, who was criticized in the scathing report, said he welcomed a reporter to visit his court in person to “report the actual facts as to how the court operates.” But he didn’t show up to court Thursday night in Dellwood, where he is prosecutor, and otherwise declined to comment through a series of emails.

There was also no comment from Ferguson Prosecuting Attorney Stephanie Karr, who works by day for a private law firm — Curtis, Heinz, Garrett & O’Keefe — whose partners are involved in just about all aspects of the region’s municipal court operations.

Several prosecutors, city attorneys and judges contacted Thursday said they couldn’t comment on the report’s findings because they hadn’t read it.

Among them was Frank Vatterott, the judge in Overland who is leading a voluntary municipal judges’ committee investigating reforms.

But on favors, he noted, “unfortunately ticket-fixing goes on in every city, every state. It just does. I don’t know that St. Louis is any different.”

Some court and city officials outside of Ferguson took a defiant tone Thursday.

Brian Gremaud, an alderman in Vinita Park, one of the cities where Brockmeyer works as prosecuting attorney, said the Department of Justice report “all seems a little overblown.”

“We are taking too much power away from the police and courts if we criticize what they are doing to keep us safe,” he said. “They are just doing their jobs. I don’t think our courts are strong enough.”

In Breckenridge Hills, where Brockmeyer serves as judge, councilwoman Tamara Johnson said she didn’t think her city had problems.

“I’ve never heard a bad report against our judge. We don’t have elevated court fees. We try to keep everything fair … so we don’t have our names smeared all over the place as being a bad city,” she said.

Breckenridge Hills Mayor Jack Shrewsbury said the board actually had a closed door meeting recently to discuss firing Brockmeyer for being too lenient on court fines and jail time for offenders.

 

[Enron]

Why would anyone want to be included with their enemy? I view white supremacy the same way the US government view the war on terror. For black people it's a matter of national security and this country has made it abundantly clear that we will never be treated as equals.

So what is the point? If "live together" isn't the goal then its either "leave" or "dominate/destroy" said enemy. Which do you prefer?

 

[aquavelva]

aquavelva, I think the responsibility and action lie with the power holders, i.e. White people and the system.

White people are responsible since they are the ones who created the system, but after 400+ years of oppression, black people need to wake up and accept the fact they aren't going to change and begin to take the necessary steps to protect themselves from this evil and wicked system.

I can't understand how a society can continue to be so bad for so long (decades if not centuries) without doing anything to fix it.

Ferguson PD is a symptom of a general atrocity which has been persistent for so many decades.

Once you understand what white supremacy is, the confusion goes right out the window and it becomes extremely obvious why people of African descent has been treated the way they have.

So what is the point? If "live together" isn't the goal then its either "leave" or "dominate/destroy" said enemy. Which do you prefer?

The point is to be treated as a human being. The fact you believe that one of our courses of action would be to live in a society where we are hated and viewed as the enemy as absolutely disgusting to me.

Various black leaders over the centuries have been telling my people to take the specific actions to shield ourselves from this. But as I stated early, black people don't want to take the necessary steps to truly fight white supremacy.

 

[Partial Gamification]

What are the neccessary steps to protect one's self?

Is the goal social harmony or unrest?

It just sounds like the preliminaries for instigating a riot or sedition.

How is the media going to paint that image?

Who's going to win that imbalanced fight?

There were cities on fire in the Seventies and it changed very little, made it worse in many places.

Is the problem not looking past the amount of fucking melanin a human being has in their skin?

In Ferguson, there are individuals identitified by the DOJ as having participated in Constitutional violations. Nothing changes if violence breaks out.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Well this is some nice justice porn, 2 officers resigned and the county clerk that engaged in those emails was fired. It's obviously small but I hope it's a step in the right direction. Eric Holder when interviewed said he'd disband the entire department in Ferguson if that's what it takes for reform.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-justice-department-report-fallout/index.html

 

[timetokill]

Well this is some nice justice porn, 2 officers resigned and the county clerk that engaged in those emails was fired. It's obviously small but I hope it's a step in the right direction. Eric Holder when interviewed said he'd disband the entire department in Ferguson if that's what it takes for reform.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-justice-department-report-fallout/index.html

Looks like they chose some old guys to take the fall, and I'd imagine with a pretty nice severance package.

It's a start, but we need more.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Well this is some nice justice porn, 2 officers resigned and the county clerk that engaged in those emails was fired. It's obviously small but I hope it's a step in the right direction. Eric Holder when interviewed said he'd disband the entire department in Ferguson if that's what it takes for reform.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-justice-department-report-fallout/index.html

Too bad there are probably a hundred other cities desperately in need of reform, too.
It's a step, though.

 

[Chumly]

In Breckenridge Hills, where Brockmeyer serves as judge, councilwoman Tamara Johnson said she didn’t think her city had problems.

“I’ve never heard a bad report against our judge. We don’t have elevated court fees. We try to keep everything fair … so we don’t have our names smeared all over the place as being a bad city,” she said.

Breckenridge Hills Mayor Jack Shrewsbury said the board actually had a closed door meeting recently to discuss firing Brockmeyer for being too lenient on court fines and jail time for offenders.

I don't pretend to know the area but Breckenridge hills is majority white. Ferguson is majority black. I don't think this helps Judge Brockmeyer's case if he is lenient on court fines and jail time in a white town and harsh on black people in Ferguson.

 

[Enron]

The point is to be treated as a human being. The fact you believe that one of our courses of action would be to live in a society where we are hated and viewed as the enemy as absolutely disgusting to me.

Various black leaders over the centuries have been telling my people to take the specific actions to shield ourselves from this. But as I stated early, black people don't want to take the necessary steps to truly fight white supremacy.

You were the one that branded our entire society "white supremacy" and that your only option is to "fight", and that you view society the same as the government views the war on terror...im trying to get exactly what you are thinking should be done. Because it sounds an awful lot like DESTROY the enemy....

So I ask you. What does "Truly fight white supremacy" mean?

What are the neccessary steps to protect one's self?

Is the goal social harmony or unrest?

It just sounds like the preliminaries for instigating a riot or sedition.

yeah, that's what I was getting from it as well. I hope not though and I hope he's just bad at expressing himself.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

You were the one that branded our entire society "white supremacy"

It is, and this isn't an unpopular opinion in black communities that I've seen.

 

[Timedog]

One need only walk around every part of ANY, literally ANY city with a half decent number of non-whites and it's plain to see that our society is white supremacy. It's not even arguable.

 

[Mesousa]

Various black leaders over the centuries have been telling my people to take the specific actions to shield ourselves from this. But as I stated early, black people don't want to take the necessary steps to truly fight white supremacy.

You can't tell a person content in life they are second class citizens any more than you can tell a man in love that he isn't. Its like spitting in the wind.

Its not a failure of leadership, just where people are at this point.

 

[Lime]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/...-170000-in-unpaid-taxes/#.VPsHojeaSkk.twitter

The judge in Ferguson, Missouri, who is accused of fixing traffic tickets for himself and colleagues while inflicting a punishing regime of fines and fees on the city’s residents, also owes more than $170,000 in unpaid taxes.

The rest of the article is too depressing to read.

 

[Infinite]

One need only walk around every part of ANY, literally ANY city with a half decent number of non-whites and it's plain to see that our society is white supremacy. It's not even arguable.

You can also just put on your tv if walking is too much.

 

[Princess Carl]

You can't tell a person content in life they are second class citizens any more than you can tell a man in love that he isn't. Its like spitting in the wind.

Its not a failure of leadership, just where people are at this point.

I think content is the wrong word. Trapped perhaps, stuck in a state of chaos and stress that leaves almost zero minutes to do anything other than survive perhaps. But content? I don't think so.

Content would be the feeling describing those certain Americans who have no problem vilifying Ed Snowden, much the way people vilified Civil Right's activists for breaking the law because "you need to respect the law and follow the proper channels."

And aquavelva, I see what you are saying now.

 

[Vicetrailia]

I think content is the wrong word. Trapped perhaps, stuck in a state of chaos and stress that leaves almost zero minutes to do anything other than survive perhaps. But content? I don't think so.

Content would be the feeling describing those certain Americans who have no problem vilifying Ed Snowden, much the way people vilified Civil Right's activists for breaking the law because "you need to respect the law and follow the proper channels."

And aquavelva, I see what you are saying now.

Yes. We are trapped, but can't be kept down (obviously as people are born into middle and rich classes, new dynasties slowly rise).

 

[RedSwirl]

Isn't this pretty much what went on in the police force Darren Wilson was a member of prior to moving to Ferguson? There's a story somewhere they had to dismantle the whole department in another Missouri town for exactly this kind of behavior.

 

[Suite Pee]

A reminder that people should read "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander for a look at how widespread this stuff is, and how much of it is endorsed by the highest court in the land.

 

[Lime]

Saw this on Twitter:

 

[Enzom21]

You were the one that branded our entire society "white supremacy"

Is it not?

Saw this on Twitter:

It's missing "get murdered by police".

 

[Dai101]

Is it not?


It's missing "get murdered by police".

All the community chest and chance cards are those.