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Dualshockers: NieR: Automata Will Take A Lot Longer than 25 Hours to Finish
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Some Sidequests were pretty good in my book. Loved the fact that the sidequest actually expanded the personalities of the main cast.
That's good news, not because I generally prefer longer games (I don't anymore), but because it seems indicative of a design that leans towards the "RPG" side of "ARPG" and not just the action side.
I don't know if I want "awful grindy" sidequests, but I do very much expect a variety of sidequests from a Nier sequel.
Actually it's even shorter than that. For the first game, to get all the endings you need all the weapons. So you need materials and money and that involves grinding and side quests or doing the farming rice trick.
Glass Rebel
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If this release is successful, that is a distinct possibility. Especially with the game being released on multiple platforms.
That gameplay certainly doesn't look like any kind of game in the JRPG genre.
It will likely end up as a nice melding between some JRPG elements, but seems to be a traditional action game in its gameplay systems.
My ideal scenario was they throw in both games so that people have the option to play through as Papa Nier or Brother Nier, but that's probably unrealistic since Replicant doesn't have an English VO track to help facilitate that easily.
skLaFarebear
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This would be the best time to link the "Because that is the final boss" image.
It wouldn't be in the spirit of the franchise if you could see everything about the from one playthrough. You'll most likely need to see the credits a few times before you get it all, otherwise it's not really a Drakengard/Nier game.
Though I guess if you've never played one of these games you wouldn't really understand the structure of how these games and their NG+/extending branches work.
Spieler Eins
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The original was a somewhat action heavy Zelda-esque with occasional stats and levels thrown in, which weren't all that prominent to begin with. This will be the same.
Leona Lewis
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Inject it
So the original didn't have traditional JRPG gameplay elements?
Glass Rebel
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It was. It was an RPG developed in Japan by a Japanese team. Thus, a JRPG.
it's sort of mixture of japanese rpg elements, japanese characters-action elements, and japanese bullet-hell shooter elements.
This is still a rather reductive descrption considering all the other genre blends in the game.
skLaFarebear
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Don't forget the Japanese text-adventure!
i don't have the time to write a wikipedia page on neogaf, so sue me
Spieler Eins
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ness-of-the-original-and-a-little-more-polish
It's like Zelda in its map layouts, dungeon interactivity and changing genres for minigames and other subactivities. However, the emphasis on combat was/is bigger and the existence of levels and different weapons kind of make it an action RPG. The most ,,traditional" element was an abundance of side-fetchquests. Anyway, this will not be like Metal Gear Rising outside of combat either way.
Not going to derail the thread any further, but geographical area is not how to describe a genre, nor is it an accurate description of any media as location is irrelevant to development, only relevant to origins.
What gameplay elements does it have? How is the narrative presented? These are relevant to genre choice, not location. Seeing the gameplay elements present in the original Nier, it almost seems like a stretch to label it a JRPG.
So it's difficult to point to a specific genre as it dips into many.
Glass Rebel
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The term "JRPG" is inherently inaccurate and useless but you asked.
No, it's really not. Like 90% of the game is pretty much an RPG with a real-time action-based combat system. All the other genres that "blend" into the games are specific to certain parts. Even saying that it has "bullet-hell shooter elements" is overselling it or oversimplifying the bullet-hell shooter genre. It has one (1) bullet-hell shooter element, namely the attack patterns that you can also see in the Nier Automata boss fight.
matrix-cat
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Yeah, I don't know why people are so married to the JRPG moniker for Nier. There's a mostly-hidden XP system that results in 'Level Up' notifications every now and then; you get stronger over time but you don't allocate stat points or anything. It has sidequests, but, y'know, what game doesn't these days? The only real customisation you can do is equipping small percentage buffs to your weapons, and you aren't making choices that affect the outcome of the story (technically I believe you can choose to get the fourth ending before the third one and screw yourself over
).The rudiments are there, but in practice it's much more similar to a 3D Zelda game's structure. You fight monsters, you adventure to new towns, help out NPCs, you go into dungeons and fight bosses to collect new abilities (they even threw in a cheeky little Zelda reference to highlight the similarity).
ViewtifulJC
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oh no, not another "what is a RPG" discussion!
VibratingDonkey
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Well, I hope we'll feel those 25+ hours are worthwhile then.
Eh...
Ok maybe.
Barkley's Justice
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Ew, guess I'm bailing. Or I'll wait for that sub-$20 sale.
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