Metalmurphy
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Per contract:
That's exactly the same as the MS one word for word. Sounds fishy.
Per contract:
Is it possible- that we're jumping to conclusions and misreading these NDAs? I'm inclined to believe an interpretation that's something along the lines of Machinimas statement eaier today.
Still scummy.
Definitely. But I'd be willing to give EA legal the benefit of the doubt.Possible, but I'm not inclined to give the Worst Company in America the benefit of the doubt on this kind of thing.
Can't trust youtube anymore.
I'm reading the contract now and it is saying participants may not disclose details on this program to the public.
It gets outed that publishers moneyhat Youtubers and you automatically assume they all must be in on it?
That's exactly the same as the MS one word for word. Sounds fishy.
Definitely. But I'd be willing to give EA legal the benefit of the doubt.
That's exactly the same as the MS one word for word. Sounds fishy.
I wonder how many gaf members are apart of any scheme where you are paid to praise a game/product and not disclose?
I can tell you as a medium-small YouTube channel, and on my own basic principle, I have never accepted an offer that tries to censor my personal thoughts on the game, and I've been offered such deals. I've been offered by more smaller teams to make videos on their game by me sending a copy early, but I just share my thoughts on it, and make 100% sure that I don't have to 'promote' it in an untrue or dishonest way, and simply if the game is good, I'll speak for it and push my love for it, if it's bad, I'll just say what I don't like about it.
I also know I'm not the only one who does this. The only higher profile YouTuber I know a bit personally is Cry or Cryaotic, and I know for a fact he doesn't accept offers of the sort either.
I bet some do, but sometimes it can be a bit easy to tell who's 'selling out' and who's not.
If you guys think only gaming publishers do stuff like this..................................
Every clothing, make up, jewelry, "life-style" company does the same exact thing. Every "December Haul", "Best of..." etc. video series by semi-famous to famous vloggers are paid and sponsored by corporations.
It isn't MS's, it's Machinima's...but ya
I remember posters who would not stop be posting about Halo 2 getting paid tickets for an official launch party and random loot back in Ancient-Gaf..Good thing I only use YouTube for watching gameplay / trailers on my smartphone. Who listens to what YouTubers say about a game? You can get that here at GAF from user impressions.
Can't trust youtube anymore.
That makes more sense, the pictures on the OP looked like this was something on an EA site or something.
I'll be looking forward to seeing if TotalBiscuit or AngryJoe chime in on this.
Nvm thought there was a typo.
I think it's still on MS/EA because isn't it against the law to offer someone payment to do something illegal?
I'll be looking forward to seeing if TotalBiscuit or AngryJoe chime in on this.
I'm reading the contract now and it is saying participants may not disclose details on this program to the public.
Can't trust youtube anymore.
Microsoft sent a bunch of astro turfers here last year for the Xbox One damage control. They even sent Albert Penello for damage control. At least we knew was he was sent to do, though.
CPM - Cost Per Thousand. $1 CPM = $1 per thousand views.
Giant Bomb is supported by ads, not by endorsements (as far as I know)
Yes, but the NDA is what makes it illegal, because without it they are offering youtubers money for producing videos that makes the game look good. Which is fine.
With the NDA they are offering money to pass off ads as.. uhm.. something that isn't an ad. Something that is probably illegal in most countries.
So, if I do it for Titanfall, I get money from both EA AND MS? Oh boy!
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Welp guess its time to find out how deep this goes. I doubt that this would have a big effect on these companies outside of legal action, but this might cause the YouTube community to take a hit.
I wonder what March's 'assignment' will be.
On the EA issue or the issue in general? Since TB already did on the initial MS issue and AJ made a post in the other thread.
It seems a bit silly to me to damn every single YouTuber for this. If anything I'd say that there's a lot of personalities who would say no out of principle and are actually able to say no to these sorts of things than on the average gaming site.
Ah, so they did.
That's exactly the same as the MS one word for word. Sounds fishy.