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[Dude Abides]

It's "drivel"

Oh the irony.

 

[Servbot24]

Not surprising. Once one bad review comes out, the rest of the critics dogpile. It's cool to shit on The Order like it was cool to shit on Destiny.

Well you can't accuse gamers of not having imaginations.

 

[gogosox82]

wow...how do they justify the 4/10 Order score?

I'm assuming they played it and didn't like it.

 

[Dragonslayer_023]

"don't dare criticize the critics! you're being defensive"

Last time I checked, expressing an opinion on a review was a perfectly legit thing. Critics can be subject of criticism exactly like the developers some seem to be growing more and more fond of bashing.

People aren't criticizing the critic, they're questioning the validity of their opinion based on a number and nothing else.

 

[aly]

I think gamers as a whole have got way more time and entertainment arguing over The Order's scores than the actual game itself.

lol I agree. In a way you could say The Order has actually provided an entire month of entertainment.

 

[Spieler Eins]

I had a feeling this was gonna be an Order thread, but it's still baffling that some seem to be actually surprised by the score. In EDGE magazine of all things too.

 

[DoubleTake]

This is why I can't take people seriously on Neogaf.

Borrowed it the weekend after it was released because my friend was done with it by then.

That game is anything but fantastic. It the most mediocre to average game to be released this generation. Maybe I wouldn't give it a 4, but I wouldn't go higher than 5.

I don't care how many people have deluded themselves into thinking it was worth $60.

Absolutely incredible graphics though. that's always nice.

I cannot take you seriously. Youre posting on Gaf. Wait...

 

[Abriael]

People aren't criticizing the critic, they're questioning the validity of their opinion based on a number and nothing else.

Which is, again, perfectly valid criticism. On a scale from 0 to 10, even using the lower numbers, 4 is a gravely insufficient score. The Order simply does not deserve that score.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

If we get a Bloodborne for every The Order, I would be fine with that.

 

[NumberThree]

Not a particularly great month for games overall based on those scores.

 

[entremet]

EDGE has always rated using the full scale, yet people are surprised The Order--a game that has been almost universally panned by the common media outlets--got a 4?

I don't get it.

Which is, again, perfectly valid criticism. On a scale from 0 to 10, even using the lower numbers, 4 is a gravely insufficient score. The Order simply does not deserve that score.

Reviews aren't objective. They're subjective.

 

[Toxi]

Which is, again, perfectly valid criticism. On a scale from 0 to 10, even using the lower numbers, 4 is a gravely insufficient score. The Order simply does not deserve that score.

You haven't even read the review.

 

[Manu]

I can't believe this turned into another The Order review thread.

Not a particularly great month for games all around based on those scores.

I'd say Revelations 2 is closer to an 8 so far, but I'm a fanboy.

 

[ShogunDarius]

This is why I can't take people seriously on Neogaf.

Borrowed it the weekend after it was released because my friend was done with it by then.

That game is anything but fantastic. It the most mediocre to average game to be released this generation. Maybe I wouldn't give it a 4, but I wouldn't go higher than 5.

I don't care how many people have deluded themselves into thinking it was worth $60.

Absolutely incredible graphics though. that's always nice.

I'd give the most average or meh title to Watch Dogs, and I have a hard time believing The Order is worse than Killzone Shadowfall, that game was boring as fuck

 

[Boogybro]

Did they seriously write "it's?"

It would make just as much sense as the rest of that dribble anyway.

They wrote "it's", guys. There's no way they can justify that score. Pack it up, EDGE.

 

[The Chef]

Playing The Order right now and I just have no earthly idea how anyone could possibly justify that score.

*shrug* ah well, I dig it.

SUPER excited about Bloodborne though.

 

[Abriael]

You haven't even read the review.

So? I didn't know that, having played the game, not having read the review (aside from the final blurb, and that's already nonsensical enough) removed my ability to criticize a score based on a known grading range.

Oh wait, it doesn't.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Reviews
The Order:1886 - 4
Evolve - 6
There Came An Echo - 5

That is a whole lot lower than I expected.

 

[MrHoot]

Which is, again, perfectly valid criticism. On a scale from 0 to 10, even using the lower numbers, 4 is a gravely insufficient score. The Order simply does not deserve that score.

Looking at story and gameplay, it's lucky that it has the score that it has. Also there's an OT already for The Order

Anyway, Bloodborne HOIPE. Saw the scans, i'm generally positive of what i've read. It seems they took the route of trimming a lot of unnecessary fat (useless stats, too many different weapons with effectively the same mechanics) to tighten the design instead and focus on the essential of what made the experience good.

Damn only 2 more weeks

 

[ShockingAlberto]

So? I didn't know that, having played the game, not having read the review (aside from the final blurb, and that's already nonsensical enough) removed my ability to criticize a score based on a known grading range.

Oh wait, it doesn't.

It sure does. You can disagree with it, sure, but criticizing it makes you a crazy person.

In that respect, you're actually right. It doesn't remove your choice. You have the choice to look dumb. People are just saying that you probably shouldn't.

 

[Fbh]

I'd love the read the whole Article about Bloodborne. But just the summary of core ideas in the other thread have me really hyped up

Do people sincerely believe that this is how it works?

Didn't you hear? There are no bad or average exclusives on Ps4

The Ps4 has only 2 types of exclusives:
- Masterpieces
- Masterpieces that got unfair reviews

 

[KOHIPEET]

Ridiculous.

After playing it I think it's fair. Maybe a bit too good even.

 

[Ferrio]

So? I didn't know that, having played the game, not having read the review (aside from the final blurb, and that's already nonsensical enough) removed my ability to criticize a score based on a known grading range.

Oh wait, it doesn't.

Fine fine, it's 10, but the review still says it's a big pile of turds? Happy?

 

[Moobabe]

It's kinda hard to criticize a review you haven't read.

Damn

 

[Vire]

A below average game gets a below average score. (Average being 5 on the Edge scale)

 

[AkuMifune]

Which is, again, perfectly valid criticism. On a scale from 0 to 10, even using the lower numbers, 4 is a gravely insufficient score. The Order simply does not deserve that score.

Can't wait for Battlefield's well deserved 7.

 

[Abriael]

It sure does. You can disagree with it, sure, but criticizing it makes you a crazy person.

I don't think "crazy" means what you think it means.

It surely doesn't mean "I see a score from 0 to 10. I played the game, and I believe that giving it a 4 is absolutely ridiculous."

 

[Hoje0308]

Exciting news about Bloodborne and, presumably, all the games listed in the Hype section, and yet this has become another review thread for The Order.

If we get a Bloodborne for every The Order, I would be fine with that.

Then what do we get for Knack?

 

[entremet]

So? I didn't know that, having played the game, not having read the review (aside from the final blurb, and that's already nonsensical enough) removed my ability to criticize a score based on a known grading range.

Oh wait, it doesn't.

This is how people get tags lol.

edit: Too soon apparently.

 

[K.Sabot]

ResiRevi 2 game of the month \o/

 

[TomShoe]

Or they honestly just didn't like it perhaps? It's hard to tell without reading the actual review, but I wouldn't be shocked if they gave actual legitimate complaits of the game, like a number of reviewers who disliked it have, just like Destiny recieved. There's no point in disregarding actual criticism because the game didn't fit the reception you think it should have.

They should use the whole scale and rate it lower, it's still an overrated game. Everything wrong with aaa game production.

One bad review?

This has to be a joke.

Make no mistake, some of those scores given are unjustifiable. Like Digital Trends.

EDIT: Just saw what happened to Abriael. Given the 10 point rating scale, I feel some of the scores given are a poor representation of the game itself. I understand not liking a game, but only games that are buggy messes should be given scores that low.

 

[AkuMifune]

This is how people get tags lol.

edit: Too soon apparently.

That timing.

So how about Bloodborne?

 

[angelic]

People want the whole scale used, but then are upset when someone does. It got 40%..that is respectable for a 4 hour QTE cover shooter.

It probably REALLY looked like a 4/10 game when compared to 40 hours of Bloodborne, and then factor in the same price and The Order looks like a very bad deal indeed.

 

[Crossing Eden]

ResiRevi 2 game of the month \o/

I need to play this.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

Man you guys will never give up that order shit. lol just get over it.

 

[Maxrunner]

wow...how do they justify the 4/10 Order score?

By being bad?

 

[GlamFM]

This is how people get tags lol.

"Banned" fitting tag if you ask me.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I don't think "crazy" means what you think it means.

It surely doesn't mean "I see a score from 0 to 10. I played the game, and I believe that giving it a 4 is absolutely ridiculous."

This is why people were telling you not to avail yourself of that choice.

 

[fushi]

Jesus fucking Christ the salt in this thread.

 

[Spieler Eins]

I'd say Revelations 2 is closer to an 8 so far, but I'm a fanboy.

An Edge 7 gives me confidence (but I always thought it looked good). Two more weeks for me...

 

[Coconut]

Guys it's okay that you like a 4/10 game.

 

[Frillen]

Make no mistake, some of those scores given are unjustifiable.

Just like the few who gave it a 9/10.

 

[K.Sabot]

I need to play this.

It's pretty alright, I'd give episodes 1-3 so far a solid 7.

Raid mode is the main draw for me though, just want PC performance to be patched.

But for reals, MH4U was the best game in february for me.

 

[autoduelist]

This is why I can't take people seriously on Neogaf.

Borrowed it the weekend after it was released because my friend was done with it by then.

That game is anything but fantastic. It the most mediocre to average game to be released this generation. Maybe I wouldn't give it a 4, but I wouldn't go higher than 5.

I don't care how many people have deluded themselves into thinking it was worth $60.

Absolutely incredible graphics though. that's always nice.

4 means absolutely broken based on current review standards. Is it absolutely broken? I don't know, because I haven't played it. Games aren't rated in a vacuum, and no matter how much some people want to claim '5 means average' it simply isn't true today.

Short, terrible, somewhat broken budget-feeling games like Homefront and Brink have a 70 metacritic, higher than The Order.

4 means ridiculously broken, and so, yes, giving a game like The Order, which by all accounts is beautiful and unbroken, even if not what everyone wanted, a 4, is misleading at best.

Short games get passes all the time. Broken games (FO, anyone) get passes all the time. Some games go through the ringer and get piled on, and The Order is one of those games. I have no idea if it's deserved or not, but it's doubtful when you compare it to other games getting similar scores.

 

[Toxi]

Outer Wilds hype!

Wow, this game looks interesting. Seems like there are a ton of games doing the whole "space simulator" thing right now, which is fine by me.

Trailer

 

[yurinka]

I don't agree them this time, The Order doesn't deserve this score at all, I really liked it.

I'm really excited for their Bloodborne impressions mentioned in the other thread, and looking forward to get the full version of Resident Evil Revelations 2 (I don't want to play it until I can get the retail version).

 

[fushi]

4 means absolutely broken based on current review standards. Is it absolutely broken? I don't know, because I haven't played it.

But short, terrible, somewhat broken budget-feeling games like Homefront and Brink have a 70 metacritic, higher than The Order.

Games aren't rated in a vacuum, and no matter how much some people want to claim '5 means average' it simply isn't true in our current review climate.

4 means ridiculously broken, and so, yes, giving a game like The Order, which by all accounts is beautiful and unbroken, even if not what everyone wanted, a 4, is misleading at best.



If you call a game

do u even EDGE?

 

[Spaghetti]

itt: people who don't know edge uses the whole review scale

4 is below average i guess. that's the order all over.

 

[Orayn]

4 means absolutely broken based on current review standards. Is it absolutely broken? I don't know, because I haven't played it. Games aren't rated in a vacuum, and no matter how much some people want to claim '5 means average' it simply isn't true today.

Short, terrible, somewhat broken budget-feeling games like Homefront and Brink have a 70 metacritic, higher than The Order.

4 means ridiculously broken, and so, yes, giving a game like The Order, which by all accounts is beautiful and unbroken, even if not what everyone wanted, a 4, is misleading at best.

There are no "current review standards" that apply to all outlets. All review scores are equally arbitrary.

 

[Ferrio]

I really need to read that memo that states where games rated under 5 points must be broken beyond repair. It's actually quite depressing that's what people honestly think nowadays.